Re: [IceHorses] Re: was KY Icelandic show now nosebands

2007-09-13 Thread Skye and Sally ~Fire Island
 Though the aim should be no noseband no, actually,
> the
> aim SHOULD be NO BRIDLE! 
> 
> Mic




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Re: [IceHorses] Re: was KY Icelandic show now nosebands

2007-09-12 Thread Janice McDonald
as for tight nosebands, i just feel like its just so BEYOND
established that a horse learns from THE RELEASE.  so constant
pressure equals:  zero release.  right?  right.
Janice
-- 
yipie tie yie yo


RE: [IceHorses] Re: was KY Icelandic show now nosebands

2007-09-12 Thread Karen Thomas
 I try to ask myself:  is it good for horses and people for me to say 
 this... We have a wonderful opportunity here to really make a difference!  
 We have seen it with walking horses!  We shut down the WGC last year!  for 
 the first time in a 60 year history!  So i try and say what I think needs 
 to be said and if it bothers someone but is better for horses then oh 
 well, get over it. 


I like your litmus test, Janice. 


Karen
Karen Thomas
Wingate, NC



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Re: [IceHorses] Re: was KY Icelandic show now nosebands

2007-09-12 Thread Janice McDonald
On 9/12/07, dawn_atherton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Robyn Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Please consider that many list members would find it more pleasant if
> every issue was not dealt with in an adversarial way.
> > Phil
>
> ---Me included.  I actually stop and try to picture
> telling people what I am typing face to face before posting.  If I
> wouldn't say it to their face, I won't type it.  If it sounds snarky in
> writing, it would likely sound REALLY pissy in person.
>
> Dawn Bruin-Slot, northern Michigan
> Fuzzy Logic Equine
>


what I am trying to do these days...  I try to ask myself:  is it good
for horses and people for me to say this.  And of course sometimes I
smart off trying to be funny and maybe regret it, but I am trying to
make a gerater effort and trying to be more helpful to people and
horses.  We have a wonderful opportunity here to really make a
difference!  We have seen it with walking horses!  We shut down rthe
WGC last year!  for the first time in a 60 year history!  So i try and
say what I think needs to be said and if it bothers someone but is
better for horses then oh well, get over it.  But its not good to be
nasty because then you lose an opportunity to attract bees with honey
and not vinegar.  and then also I notice:  sometimes when people start
arguing the whole point gets lost behind the argument!

Does anybody on here think dropped, tight nosebands are a good thing??
 if so, state your case so i can argue with you  sensibly :)
Janice
-- 
yipie tie yie yo


Re: [IceHorses] Re: was KY Icelandic show now nosebands

2007-09-12 Thread Nancy Sturm
Dawn, what a great idea.  I think sometimes when we put things in writing,
they can come out sounding pretty harsh.

Nancy



RE: [IceHorses] Re: was KY Icelandic show now nosebands

2007-09-12 Thread Karen Thomas
 Dawn, what a great idea.  I think sometimes when we put things in
writing,  they can come out sounding pretty harsh.  Nancy


Yep, and I confess, I AM having a bad day... but we have a few people who
only seem to come on the list to defend the same old practices, even when
they continue to escalate (as in the noseband issue) ...well, it makes it
hard for me to stay nice, especially after hearing the same things over and
over for five years.  It gets tiring, even on a good day...


Karen
Karen Thomas
Wingate, NC



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