Re: [IceHorses] speed racking video / Tonka
> Tonka's, the Icelandic, owner says that his speed rack is actually > closer to if not right on flying pace. Janice, do we have any pictures or video of Tonka gaiting? Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] speed racking video
> If you look carefully at the videos you can see suspension, which > makes it flying pace so far as I'm concerned. Yes, I think that helps to qualify the gait. I think there is also a spot somewhere in there where the fast tolt may be morphing into having a little suspension, and some times when the flying pace is morphing into not having suspension. Just muddies things up a little :-) I think, with the available technology, that the judging of evaluations, competitions, WC, etc., should have instant replay! Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] speed racking video
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 10:21:49 -0400, you wrote: >that "speed rack" is the same as what Icelandic horse fans have >traditionally called "flying pace", since it always looks more pacey than >rack/tolt. If you look carefully at the videos you can see suspension, which makes it flying pace so far as I'm concerned. I rode a friend's standardbred (ex racing trotter in harness) once on the oval track in a 5 gait class, and had a blast. She was 16.2hh and did all 5 gaits including an awesome flying pace/speed rack/redneck racing gait. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk --- "Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes"
RE: [IceHorses] speed racking video
>> One of the funniest "spins" I've ever heard for why the "speed rack" isn't a REAL flying pace: a rider goes into "flying pace" from canter/gallop, whereas a rider will go into "speed rack" from a rack. So half of the time my former horse Fáfnir didn't actually pace when he paced because I went into pace from tölt :D Yeah, sure...that's it...now you got it! :) Isn't that silly? But there was a very distinct difference between fast tölt and flying pace, the horse didn't just gradually "slide" into pace he really changed his gait from tölt to pace. In my current horse I miss the feeling of the horse being able to really stretch her steps and stay in clean tölt when going fast. Janice certainly hangs out with the die-hard "racking horse" fans more than I do, so maybe she'll comment. But, I've always heard people refer to "rack" as a gait, but "speed rack" seems to be another matter altogether. I've never ridden a "speed racker" but I've seen some. I believe that "rack" is simply the English word for "tolt" as Judy said yesterday, but that "speed rack" is the same as what Icelandic horse fans have traditionally called "flying pace", since it always looks more pacey than rack/tolt. Karen Thomas, NC
RE: [IceHorses] speed racking video
Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> kirjoitti: > I think you are dead-on right, Laree. > > > One of the funniest "spins" I've ever heard for why the "speed rack" isn't a > REAL flying pace: a rider goes into "flying pace" from canter/gallop, > whereas a rider will go into "speed rack" from a rack. So half of the time my former horse Fáfnir didn't actually pace when he paced because I went into pace from tölt :D But there was a very distinct difference between fast tölt and flying pace, the horse didn't just gradually "slide" into pace he really changed his gait from tölt to pace. In my current horse I miss the feeling of the horse being able to really stretch her steps and stay in clean tölt when going fast. Krisse
RE: [IceHorses] speed racking video
Interesting that the speed rackers, no matter which gait they are doing, do it in an arena, on the curve, yet Icelandics only use a straight track. That was one thing I always noted in that old Falcon Rowdy video. He not only leaves the smooth road, but he curves around some trees and heads over some rough terrain. He only broke gait very briefly on the sharpest turn. Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.37/1042 - Release Date: 10/1/2007 6:59 PM
Re: [IceHorses] speed racking video
most of the > time these speed "rackers" are actually doing a flying pace Interesting that the speed rackers, no matter which gait they are doing, do it in an arena, on the curve, yet Icelandics only use a straight track. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
RE: [IceHorses] speed racking video
If you talk to Liz this weekend, she will tell you that most of the time these speed "rackers" are actually doing a flying pace and Tonka's, the Icelandic, owner says that his speed rack is actually closer to if not right on flying pace. I think if they made these horses do a true rack it would slow them down and the event wouldn't be as popular. I think you are dead-on right, Laree. One of the funniest "spins" I've ever heard for why the "speed rack" isn't a REAL flying pace: a rider goes into "flying pace" from canter/gallop, whereas a rider will go into "speed rack" from a rack. I thought that was pretty funny. If you take that to define unique gaits, then is a trot-from-canter a different gait from trot-from-walk? And is a walk-from-stop different from a walk that was most recently a trot? Of course not! A gait is defined by what the horse's feet are doing that particular moment. What he was doing seconds earlier has nothing to do with it! Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.37/1042 - Release Date: 10/1/2007 6:59 PM
Re: [IceHorses] speed racking video
. But notice how close the gait is > to a pace, and how the horse has to stretch out to speed rack and if > held in it would alter that I'm sure. Janice - If you talk to Liz this weekend, she will tell you that most of the time these speed "rackers" are actually doing a flying pace and Tonka's, the Icelandic, owner says that his speed rack is actually closer to if not right on flying pace. I think if they made these horses do a true rack it would slow them down and the event wouldn't be as popular. -- Laree What a horse does under compulsion is done without understanding, and there is no beauty in it either, any more than if one should whip or spur a dancer. -Xenophon
