Re: [IceHorses] Gat surprised me
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 10:58 PM, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Then of course Orri pushed his way ahead of her to be the first haltered, but for Gat to come to be haltered, that was a first! > > > I think they are "home" now. :) Congratulations to all of you. > Thanks! V
Re: [IceHorses] Gat surprised me
>>> Then of course Orri pushed his way ahead of her to be the first >>> haltered, but for Gat to come to be haltered, that was a first! I think they are "home" now. :) Congratulations to all of you. Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] Gat
On 4/27/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Extra weight often makes it harder for a gaited horse to go diagonal. I > know you're little, but you still weigh more than Alex - unless she's grown > a lot lately. :) Yes--I do weigh more than Alex. I'm 115--maybe I'm too big for Gat? > Just curious, how many gaited horses does your coach work with? None. >MAYBE it could...but how does he propose to get her on the bit, via rein contact He tells me that if the horse gets on the bit they will round their back -- and his method is rein contact. From what I've read this is not the right way. > Getting a horse on the > bit is not a quick thing to do. No--he says to practice--that with time the horse will do it for longer and longer periods of time, and when they do go on the bit they are 'lighter' and that Gat will probably trot and canter better if she gets on the bit. > I ride him on a loose rein so > he can find his own head position and balance. When I use more rein contact > or lift the reins, he tends to step-pace - and he's not the only one I know > that does that. That's what Gat did for me on the trail rides we went on. > One thing to consider - many (most?) Icelandic's don't have sufficiently > long necks to "get on the bit", or at least with normally expected head > carriage, like say a TB, warmblood or some QH and Arabs are capable of > doing. Gat has a short neck so I really can't imagine her getting on the bit like the other schooling horses, but, how could she get her back up without going into that frame? V
Re: [IceHorses] Gat
On Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 09:16:01PM -0300, Virginia Tupper wrote: > > Have you ever read any of Linda Tellington-Jones's > > books? There is a great T-Touch strech for the back > > that uses a girth to lift the belly and another that > > you use your fingernails or a hoof pick (on the > > belly)to ask the horse to lift her own back muscles. > > > > Yes--I've tried some lift the belly but it appears that Gat doesn't > lift. I've used fingernails and girth but I don't see any change. i had the same reaction until i saw someone *else* doing it. it's hard to watch your horse's back while you're reaching under the belly! but stjarni does indeed lift, now according to three independent witnesses :) --vicka ps. i also believe in hill work and backing to muscle up the back. just sayin'.
Re: [IceHorses] Gat
On 4/27/07, Wanda Lauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I hadn't thought of the hoof pick. > I didn't try the hoof pick either--do you use steady pressure? V
Re: [IceHorses] Gat
On 27/04/07, Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes--I've tried some lift the belly but it appears that Gat doesn't > lift. I've used fingernails and girth but I don't see any change. > V I've tried with Elska too, and I've had both Kevin and Cara watching to see if they notice any tightening and they said they didn't notice any change in her while I was doing it. I've only done it with my fingertips though. I hadn't thought of the hoof pick. Cara?? Are you out there? Maybe that's our next project.. Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] Gat
On 4/27/07, Pat Grimmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe you sit just a little bit further back than your daughter does... It > would change the point of balance and make Gat more prone to pace and/or > tolt. Try leaning just a bit more forward and see what happens. That's something I didn't think of but it sure makes sense that since I'm bigger my seat wouldn't be the same as Alex's. I'll try leaning more forward but I bet my coach will tell me to lean back. :D V
Re: [IceHorses] Gat
On 4/27/07, Kristen Mikula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have you ever read any of Linda Tellington-Jones's > books? There is a great T-Touch strech for the back > that uses a girth to lift the belly and another that > you use your fingernails or a hoof pick (on the > belly)to ask the horse to lift her own back muscles. > Yes--I've tried some lift the belly but it appears that Gat doesn't lift. I've used fingernails and girth but I don't see any change. V
RE: [IceHorses] Gat
>>> She wasn't as consistent in the trot for me as she is for Alex. Extra weight often makes it harder for a gaited horse to go diagonal. I know you're little, but you still weigh more than Alex - unless she's grown a lot lately. :) >>> My coach also told me that if I could 'get her on the bit' she would round her back and it would help build up her muscles which would be good because she's swayed. I tried but Gat fights it so she maybe she's never been ridden that way. Just curious, how many gaited horses does your coach work with? MAYBE it could...but how does he propose to get her on the bit, via rein contact, or actually working to get her to push from behind? Getting a horse on the bit is not a quick thing to do. Trausti is multi-gaited but most often gives me a lovely running walk or flat walk. I ride him on a loose rein so he can find his own head position and balance. When I use more rein contact or lift the reins, he tends to step-pace - and he's not the only one I know that does that. One thing to consider - many (most?) Icelandic's don't have sufficiently long necks to "get on the bit", or at least with normally expected head carriage, like say a TB, warmblood or some QH and Arabs are capable of doing. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IceHorses] Gat
Maybe you sit just a little bit further back than your daughter does... It would change the point of balance and make Gat more prone to pace and/or tolt. Try leaning just a bit more forward and see what happens. Pat G., in MN -
Re: [IceHorses] Gat
> round her back and it would help build up her > muscles which would be > good because she's swayed. Have you ever read any of Linda Tellington-Jones's books? There is a great T-Touch strech for the back that uses a girth to lift the belly and another that you use your fingernails or a hoof pick (on the belly)to ask the horse to lift her own back muscles. -Kristen in Mi (it is a beautiful day and I am trapped at work!). __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [IceHorses] Gat and Alex
On 1/17/07, Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/15/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It looks to me like Gat and Alex are getting to be a great team. That > > didn't happen overnight, though, did it? > > Their relationship grew over the past year--Gat trusts Alex and Alex > trusts Gat. I love watching them together. I want that bond with a > horse--maybe it will come with Orri, we'll see. > V > i think the bond comes while working thru issues. It does with me. and the best bond is when the horse feels he has permission to think for himself and be trusted to make the right decision while the person feels like she can trust him to not kill her that day. when you have that, it is more prescious than gold, than gait, than anything! it is what all horse people seek and dream of. Janice Janice-- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Gat and Alex
On 1/15/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It looks to me like Gat and Alex are getting to be a great team. That > didn't happen overnight, though, did it? Their relationship grew over the past year--Gat trusts Alex and Alex trusts Gat. I love watching them together. I want that bond with a horse--maybe it will come with Orri, we'll see. V
