Re: [IceHorses] Smoke anyone?

2008-07-02 Thread Lynn Kinsky

>  I think my horse might turn up his nose at the plastic lining the 
> helmet.
> Do you know how that went?  Did they pre-train at home or did horses 
> think
> plastic-lined helmets were a great source of feed?



Any horses doing Open level generally have a few hundred miles of 
competition in Novice and have long since found out that food and water 
are to be accepted wherever and however they can get it, because the 
ride could go on for hours more.( I started the baggie thing when I was 
still in Novice and we happened to share a lunch spot with the Opens 
and saw the more experienced riders doing it.) The smartest horses take 
care of themselves from the beginning -- I was very pleased when my 
mare Rosa drank from puddles on our first long ride.






Lynn Kinsky, Santa Ynez, CA
ranch:  http://www.silcom.com/~lkinsky/



Re: [IceHorses] Smoke anyone?

2008-07-02 Thread susan cooper
--- On Wed, 7/2/08, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We've talked about doing this, but we'd never be
> able to leave it out there. 
> This is redneck land and it would be shot of holes in a
> day.

Even if you put a huge sign that said "Horse Water, please leave alone" with a 
smiley face?  Now, after my ride, I do go back out and get the tub - I use a 
muck bucket/laundry basket from Wal mart that costs $6.  So far, knock on wood, 
no jack ass has hurt my tub.

Susan in NV     read my blog to see why I ride my horse in pink:  
http://desertduty.blogspot.com/   






  


Re: [IceHorses] Smoke anyone?

2008-07-02 Thread Nancy Sturm

  I've been taking a water tub out in my desert now that I am routinely 
doing at LEAST 10 mile rides.

We've talked about doing this, but we'd never be able to leave it out there. 
This is redneck land and it would be shot of holes in a day.

Nancy 



Re: [IceHorses] Smoke anyone?

2008-07-02 Thread Nancy Sturm

  So the Open riders, who were doing 30 miles briskly,
> usually filled a freezer baggie with bran and some grain and carrot
> slices, tucked it in their cantle bag, and then at lunch plopped the
> bag in their helmet, added water and gave their horse his lunch.

I think I'd enjoy CTR, but there's nothing in Oregon that I have ever found. 
Of course this year, there's not much endurance either.  Both of the rides 
that are within two hours drive of us have been cancelled.

 I think my horse might turn up his nose at the plastic lining the helmet. 
Do you know how that went?  Did they pre-train at home or did horses think 
plastic-lined helmets were a great source of feed?

Nancy 



Re: [IceHorses] Smoke anyone?

2008-07-02 Thread Lorraine
> thinking this doesn't sound like a good idea.  Any
> opinions?
> 


If it is at all smokey I wouldn't do it even if there was water./


  


Re: [IceHorses] Smoke anyone?

2008-07-02 Thread susan cooper
--- On Wed, 7/2/08, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It's  about a 20 mile ride with no water for
> the horses.  I'm 
> thinking this doesn't sound like a good idea.  Any
> opinions?

Smoke here is in the "red" zone meaning dangereous!  As for the water, is there 
any way you can get water up there in either a quad or jeep?  I've been taking 
a water tub out in my desert now that I am routinely doing at LEAST 10 mile 
rides.  I plan on planting a cooler with beer in the future :')  but not to 
worry - only one per rider!

Susan in NV     read my blog to see why I ride my horse in pink:  
http://desertduty.blogspot.com/   






  


Re: [IceHorses] Smoke anyone?

2008-07-02 Thread Lynn Kinsky
On Jul 2, 2008, at 8:24 AM, Judy Ryder wrote:

 about a 20 mile ride with no water for the horses.  I'm
>> thinking this doesn't sound like a good idea.  Any opinions?
>
>
> Didn't they cancel the practice (or pre-) Tevis ride because of the 
> smoke?
>

Smoke was part of the issue, but one of the fires is burning near 
Mosquito Ridge and Last Chance -- ie., near the trail itself.  Not a 
good idea having riders or runners (the Western States 100) getting in 
the way of the firefighters.


Lynn Kinsky, Santa Ynez, CA
ranch:  http://www.silcom.com/~lkinsky/



Re: [IceHorses] Smoke anyone?

2008-07-02 Thread Lynn Kinsky

> her new mare is a terrific drinker - eater too.  Those are my two 
> favorite
> attributes for an endurance horse I think.  Mine pees on command, 
> though,
> and that helps to drop his heart rate in vet checks.



The helmet usage was sort of standard procedure when I was riding Open 
in NATRC.  The rules say that any food you want to feed your horse 
during the ride (aside from natural forage or hay that management 
sometimes provides at the lunch stop) must be carried with you (no 
crews in CTR).  So the Open riders, who were doing 30 miles briskly, 
usually filled a freezer baggie with bran and some grain and carrot 
slices, tucked it in their cantle bag, and then at lunch plopped the 
bag in their helmet, added water and gave their horse his lunch.  Keeps 
the gut sounds going.

PS:  Santa Barbara/Goleta has a fire now 
(http://www.keyt.com/news/local/22803699.html), so I expect we'll be 
getting our share of smoke.  Bummer.

Lynn Kinsky, Santa Ynez, CA
ranch:  http://www.silcom.com/~lkinsky/



Re: [IceHorses] Smoke anyone?

2008-07-02 Thread Nancy Sturm




 Didn't they cancel the practice (or pre-) Tevis ride because of the smoke?>


I don't know about that, but they did cancel the 100 mile (same trail) 
Western States Trail run for humans.  Can you imagine running the Tevis 
Trail?  They also cancelled an endurance ride down that way last weekend.  I 
can't remember the name, Mariposa maybe?

Nancy 



Re: [IceHorses] Smoke anyone?

2008-07-02 Thread Nancy Sturm

  And you  carry lots of water on your saddle and a plastic bag you can use 
to  turn your helmet into a water bowl for sharing that water with your
 horse, if need be.


Lynn, what a good idea.  I was going to carry four water bottles (two for me 
and two for my horse) but I've never been able to find anything he would 
drink out of.  The helmet might work.  I've tried a collapsable canvas bowl. 
I suppose like many other things, I should have pre-taught drinking from odd 
containers.  My daughter's old horse will drink from her cupped hands and 
her new mare is a terrific drinker - eater too.  Those are my two favorite 
attributes for an endurance horse I think.  Mine pees on command, though, 
and that helps to drop his heart rate in vet checks.

Nancy 



Re: [IceHorses] Smoke anyone?

2008-07-02 Thread Judy Ryder
>>>about a 20 mile ride with no water for the horses.  I'm 
> thinking this doesn't sound like a good idea.  Any opinions?


Didn't they cancel the practice (or pre-) Tevis ride because of the smoke?


Judy
http://iceryder.net
http://clickryder.com


Re: [IceHorses] Smoke anyone?

2008-07-02 Thread Lynn Kinsky

> We've been riding in the morning as usual, but there's a hard ride 
> planned
> tomorrow, to the Tallow Box Lookout.  If I remember right it takes 
> about
> four hours climbing to the highest point in the mountains behind 
> our
> ranches.  It's  about a 20 mile ride with no water for the horses.  I'm
> thinking this doesn't sound like a good idea.  Any opinions?



The smoke has missed us -- we just have thick fog right now

Your ride doesn't sound like a good idea to me either.  If you decide 
to go, get your horse thoroughly filled with slurpy beet pulp or bran 
mashes, electrolytes the night before, and lots of water.  And you 
carry lots of water on your saddle and a plastic bag you can use to 
turn your helmet into a water bowl for sharing that water with your 
horse, if need be. Twenty miles in 4 hours up (and down -- I presume 
you are talking round trip) a mountain is brisk riding.



Lynn Kinsky, Santa Ynez, CA
ranch:  http://www.silcom.com/~lkinsky/