Re: [IceHorses] Tenderloin of Icelandic Horse
> . . . I think this reveals the icelandic people have a strange ability to > view horses as both a meal and a pet? > janice Not a pet.As the statue of a mare in Reykjavik harbor says: "Man's most useful *servant*" The horses are viewed as creatures to "serve" -- I guess in more ways than one. . . Ahem. -- Renee M. in Michigan
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On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:43:08AM -0500, Janice McDonald wrote: > but why would an icelander not eat just lamb and seafood. do they > have chickens? because lamb and seafood aren't an adequate food supply, and if the horses were merely allowed to breed without culling, they would soon overrun the ecosystem. they do indeed have chickens, lovely ones. (an icelandic friend of mine who's a geneticist has been doing a chicken project and posted pics :) --vicka
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On Jun 17, 2008, at 6:32 AM, Janice McDonald wrote: > I guess the key thing here is it shows how a culture perceives an > animal. you don't eat species you view as a lovable pet. we don't > eat dogs or horses because as a culture we see them as feeling loving > beings. I think this reveals the icelandic people have a strange > ability to view horses as both a meal and a pet? > janice One of the things 4-H and FFA teaches kids is to cope with that dichotomy, and accept that the lamb or steer that they have been lovingly raising for months, grooming and walking daily to build muscle, will, if they present it well enough at the county fair, win ribbons . .. and bring a good price per pound at the Fair auction. I would have a hard time eating a horse that I *knew* . . . but no problem eating horse meat from anomymous horses. (My breeding rabbits were cuddly pets with names -- but I dressed out their offspring without a qualm.) Lynn Kinsky, Santa Ynez, CA ranch: http://www.silcom.com/~lkinsky/
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nutria makes a beautiful fur coat. sorta long like raccoon. here in nw fla the gopher tortoise is nearly extinct cause fla crackers lived off them. the crackers inland. on the coast even us poor people eat like kings on crab and scallops and oysters and fried fish mm. but why would an icelander not eat just lamb and seafood. do they have chickens? janice
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On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:32:41 -0500, you wrote: > I think this reveals the icelandic people have a strange >ability to view horses as both a meal and a pet? I don't think it's that strange an ability. I keep sheep, several of whom are pets (for instance Billy, a Jacob, who is 6 years old and thinks he's a dog) but still enjoy eating lamb. I wouldn't eat Billy (he would be bloody tough for one thing) but have no problem eating our other lambs, the ones who are not pets. I have eaten (and enjoyed) horse meat, but I would not eat Skessa. I guess it's a double standard, but to me there is a big difference between a horse I don't know that has been raised specifically to be eaten, and one who is a member of the family. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk ---
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oh believe me I know about california rednecks! I lived in elk grove. between galt and sacramento. it was the biggest goat ropin redneck town... my husband is a native californian. first generation okie. aint nothin more redneck than a calif okie! janice
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>>> Guess you never went hunting in ditches, then! That's what the poor >>> people do. I never ate nutria - but I know lots of people that did! I'd never even heard of nutria being in NC, and I've lived here all my life, and in the country. I did a quick search, and apparently they are found only in very small pockets in the USA - their range in NC is small and a long way from where I live. the second page of this document shows a map: http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/nreos/wild/pdf/wildlife/NUTRIA.PDF Apparently, Janice was right - Louisiana seems to be about the only state where they roam the whole state. Wow Learn something new everyday... Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] Tenderloin of Icelandic Horse
I guess the key thing here is it shows how a culture perceives an animal. you don't eat species you view as a lovable pet. we don't eat dogs or horses because as a culture we see them as feeling loving beings. I think this reveals the icelandic people have a strange ability to view horses as both a meal and a pet? janice
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> Guess you never went hunting in ditches, then! My grandparents lived in Burbank, California, during the Depression. My grandfather ran a trap line in the Hollywood Hills and my mother claims they ate everything he ever trapped. See, Janice, even California has/had rednecks. Nancy
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--- On Mon, 6/16/08, Lynn Kinsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not a rat -- a guinea pig It's still a rodent. But, hey, I like to taste other cultures cuisine, too. But I don't think I could do horse, dog, or cat! Just me. Susan in NV read my blog to see why I ride my horse in pink: http://desertduty.blogspot.com/
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--- On Mon, 6/16/08, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Uh...not in my part of the south. I never heard of that! > Guess you never went hunting in ditches, then! That's what the poor people do. I never ate nutria - but I know lots of people that did! Susan in NV read my blog to see why I ride my horse in pink: http://desertduty.blogspot.com/
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I did eat horse meat once I think. There was once a horsemeat store in Burbank, California. I can remember sitting in the car when my mom went in. It was probably before 1950. Yes, I am that old. As I remember, none of us could bring ourselves to eat it and it was the last adventure into th eating of horses. Nancy
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On 6/16/08, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Oh, you ate a rat! In the south, people use to eat nutria - which is > >>> also a rat! > > > Uh...not in my part of the south. I never heard of that! > > > Karen Thomas, NC > she is talking about louisiana, and like the bumper sticker says "coonasses make better lovers cause they will eat anything". my mom used to eat squirrel eyeballs and chicken feet. when she cooked chicken and rice there would be two big ol horny yellow feet sticking up out of the pot. but we would not dream of eating a horse or cat or dog. we did have our standards. janice even good horses have bad days sometimes.
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On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:21:34AM -0400, Renee Martin wrote: > >> Oh gag. . . . That just makes me ill to think of it, like a recipe for > >> "Braised Dog" or something. > > > > which is, of course, eaten in china . . . < > > Yeah, I know. Been there twice to get my daughters. > Doesn't change my opinion one bit. de gustibus non disputandum est. i won't eat octopus anymore myself, which is a pity because i love the stuff --vicka
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>> Oh gag. . . . That just makes me ill to think of it, like a recipe for >> "Braised Dog" or something. > > which is, of course, eaten in china . . . < Yeah, I know. Been there twice to get my daughters. Doesn't change my opinion one bit. -- Renee M. in Michigan
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The Cuy I ate in Cuzco, Peru, was tough though had a good flavor. I did eat horse meat once I think. I was in Belgium at a luncheon when my parents lived there. The meat as well done and tender and I asked the hostess what it was and she kept saying "meat". ( more than once when I said "What kind of meat"). I gave up and when when we got home, I realized it was probably horse meat and they knew Americans would not eat it if they knew. I am happy I did not know at the time. Ann
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>> (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/2036841400040468917ESsMVM) > Oh, you ate a rat! In the south, people use to eat nutria - which is > also a rat! Not a rat -- a guinea pig (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guinea_pig), an Andean rodent raised for meat long before the Spanish brought chickens, pigs, cattle, sheep, ducks, goats and horses to the region. It's a highland delicacy -- my coastal Spanish Peruvian friends couldn't believe this gringa actually ordered it (South American anthropology was my minor in college)! Lynn Kinsky, Santa Ynez, CA ranch: http://www.silcom.com/~lkinsky/ http://members.dslextreme.com/users/napha/HighPoint/
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http://tar.vox.com/library/post/todays-experiment-tenderloin-of-icelandic-horse.html > > > Oh gag. . . . That just makes me ill to think of it, like a recipe for > "Braised Dog" or something. which is, of course, eaten in china and south america. and here we eat "braised cow" and "rotten cow milk", guaranteed to gross out many other nations of people. historically, icelandic settlement survived because it switched to eating sheep and horses, who could survive in such a poor climate. greenland settlements starved to death by insisting upon remaining "european" eaters of beef. --vicka (who just fed her dog chicken, having fed corn to chickens a couple of hours ago)
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>>> Oh, you ate a rat! In the south, people use to eat nutria - which is >>> also a rat! Uh...not in my part of the south. I never heard of that! Karen Thomas, NC
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--- On Mon, 6/16/08, Lynn Kinsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To each culture its own. > > I deliberately ordered roasted cuy when we visited > Arequippa in Peru > and thought it was quite tasty: > (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/2036841400040468917ESsMVM) > Oh, you ate a rat! In the south, people use to eat nutria - which is also a rat! Susan in NV read my blog to see why I ride my horse in pink: http://desertduty.blogspot.com/ > Lynn Kinsky, Santa Ynez, CA > ranch: http://www.silcom.com/~lkinsky/ > http://members.dslextreme.com/users/napha/HighPoint/ > > > > > IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: > http://kickapps.com/icehorses > > "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the > lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- > persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." > > "All truth passes through three stages. > First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. > Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur > Schopenhauer > > > [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com > [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com > [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses > http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo > [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
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> http://tar.vox.com/library/post/todays-experiment-tenderloin-of-icelandic-horse.html > Oh gag. . . . That just makes me ill to think of it, like a recipe for "Braised Dog" or something. -- Renee
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>> http://tar.vox.com/ > > > Carbonated rhubarb pulp? To each culture its own. I deliberately ordered roasted cuy when we visited Arequippa in Peru and thought it was quite tasty: (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/2036841400040468917ESsMVM) Lynn Kinsky, Santa Ynez, CA ranch: http://www.silcom.com/~lkinsky/ http://members.dslextreme.com/users/napha/HighPoint/
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> > > I don't think so. He's some kind of cook or chef, I think: > > http://tar.vox.com/ Carbonated rhubarb pulp? Nancy
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On Jun 16, 2008, at 4:57 PM, Nancy Sturm wrote: > I assume this is not someone's idea of a joke? It's not the only recipe out there: http://www.simnet.is/gullis/jo/meats.htm Lynn Kinsky, Santa Ynez, CA ranch: http://www.silcom.com/~lkinsky/ http://members.dslextreme.com/users/napha/HighPoint/
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>I assume this is not someone's idea of a joke? I don't think so. He's some kind of cook or chef, I think: http://tar.vox.com/ Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
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I assume this is not someone's idea of a joke? Nancy
