Re: [id-android] Soal Magic nih....

[Adrianto Dimaz]

Sis tech gak kasih garansi software, garansi harusnya gak valid kalo udah
root..

Regards.. Adri

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On Mar 10, 2010 11:20 AM, "Justinus"  wrote:

so kalo di bawa ke . apa ya, maksud nya garansi-resmi-nya bisa gak utk
claim camera gak berfungsi ?
2 hr yg lalu sih pernah di bawa ke sistech...katanya garansi, tp udah bukan
mereka yg pegang...dikasih tau (sy lupa dimana)





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Re: [id-android] Soal Magic nih....

[Justinus]

so kalo di bawa ke . apa ya, maksud nya garansi-resmi-nya bisa gak 
utk claim camera gak berfungsi ?
2 hr yg lalu sih pernah di bawa ke sistech...katanya garansi, tp udah 
bukan mereka yg pegang...dikasih tau (sy lupa dimana)




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Re: [id-android] Soal Magic nih....

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32b tuh , download yg G

On 3/9/10, Justinus  wrote:
> sapphire unknown 32a ship s-on-g
> hboot -1.33.0006
> radio - 2.22.19.261
>
> Saya ngikutin dari : http://tux.or.id/?p=79
>
> dah berhasil flash custom recovery image nya , trus off-phone, on dgn
> home+powertp cuma tampilan backgound ijo dgn tulisan mytouch3g walau
> dah teken dan tahan lama.lama banget... :P
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Re: [id-android] Soal Magic nih....

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Hm..

On 3/9/10, Justinus  wrote:
> Boss.suhu2 makasih semua nya
>
> tapi barusan yg punya call, sy bilang bisa masih lama, dia bilang gak
> usah...apa adanya tp tolong utk camera bisa jalan, pas nyobalho
> iya...koq gak bisa yah ?
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> emang belum log-in email google, apa pengaruh ?
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Re: [id-android] Soal Magic nih....

[Justinus]

Boss.suhu2 makasih semua nya

tapi barusan yg punya call, sy bilang bisa masih lama, dia bilang gak 
usah...apa adanya tp tolong utk camera bisa jalan, pas nyobalho 
iya...koq gak bisa yah ?


emang belum log-in email google, apa pengaruh ?


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Re: [id-android] Soal Magic nih....

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bos, coba ketik *fastboot devices* bisa ngga?
sori, soalnya setauku kalo ADB khan harus masuk recovery.
kalo di fastboot commandnya pake fastboot.


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On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Justinus  wrote:

> nih bener kan
>
> hehehe bingung dah mo pake cara mana, td dah mo gold-card...eh gak bisa ADB
> lagi :P
>
>
>
>
> andrew igor wrote:
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>> Lo kalo fastboot USB warna merah bisa tuh. Berarti fastboot masih normal
>>
>> Good luck deh
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Re: [id-android] Soal Magic nih....

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Fastboot emg bisa bro cuma ga bs nge flash

*[How-To] Fix perfected SPL (fastboot remote: not allow)*
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2010/3/9 andrew igor 

> Lo kalo fastboot USB warna merah bisa tuh.
> Berarti fastboot masih normal
>
> Good luck deh
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> -Original Message-
> From: Justinus 
> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:43:36
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> hehehe gak bisa yah, ok tak search dulu deh boss
>
> thx
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>
> Adrianto Dimaz wrote:
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> > S-on gak bisa fastboot, coba pake cara gw dulu. judul thread perfect
> > spl not so perfect any more. cari di mail-archive.com
> > <http://mail-archive.com> search id-android, search judul thread.
> > Sukses! Hati2 markibrik
> >
> > Regards. Adri
> > -sent from my google powered device #android-
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Re: [id-android] Soal Magic nih....

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Lo kalo fastboot USB warna merah bisa tuh. 
Berarti fastboot masih normal

Good luck deh 

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From: Justinus 
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:43:36 
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Subject: Re: [id-android] Soal Magic nih

hehehe gak bisa yah, ok tak search dulu deh boss

thx




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> S-on gak bisa fastboot, coba pake cara gw dulu. judul thread perfect 
> spl not so perfect any more. cari di mail-archive.com 
> <http://mail-archive.com> search id-android, search judul thread.
> Sukses! Hati2 markibrik
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> Regards. Adri
> -sent from my google powered device #android-
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Re: [id-android] Soal Magic nih....

[Justinus]

hehehe gak bisa yah, ok tak search dulu deh boss

thx




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S-on gak bisa fastboot, coba pake cara gw dulu. judul thread perfect 
spl not so perfect any more. cari di mail-archive.com 
 search id-android, search judul thread.

Sukses! Hati2 markibrik

Regards. Adri
-sent from my google powered device #android-



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Re: [id-android] Soal Magic nih....

[Justinus]

tulisan yg merah jadi fasboot usb

itu kedetek yah ?

trus ?  :D



Timmy Gunawan wrote:


Coba dulu aja bos
Masuk cmd
Fastboot devices
Kbaca ga

On Mar 9, 2010 4:19 PM, "andrew igor" > wrote:


Yah betul itu fastboot
Sebetulnya dari fastboot masukin engineering spl
Cuma aturan masukin spl kan harus atau wajib masukin radio dulu.
Ini radio salah, celakanya spl nya masih s-on.

Kalo mau nekad sih naikin ke new radio sekalian.
Jadi lewat fastboot boot ke recovery, flash enginering spl.
Reboot masuk fastboot lagi, flash new radio, flash new spl, flash new 
recovery.

Reboot masuk fastboot flash old radio, flash old spl, flash old recovery.

Dwyor lo ya :p



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Re: [id-android] Soal Magic nih....

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S-on gak bisa fastboot, coba pake cara gw dulu. judul thread perfect spl not
so perfect any more. cari di mail-archive.com search id-android, search
judul thread.
Sukses! Hati2 markibrik

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On 2010 3 9 16:32, "Timmy Gunawan"  wrote:

Coba dulu aja bos
Masuk cmd
Fastboot devices
Kbaca ga


>
> On Mar 9, 2010 4:19 PM, "andrew igor"  wrote:
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> Yah betul itu fastboot
> ...


>
> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:08:11
> To: 

> Subject: Re: [id-android] Soal Ma...



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Re: [id-android] Soal Magic nih....

[Justinus]

jadi gak usah GoldCard lagi yah

td udah bisa ADB, sekarang koq gak bisa lagi, caranya sama kan kaya yg 
pertama ? ---> utk ADB ?


Ok kalo gitu coba fastboot trus langsung coloking ke usb ya


Timmy Gunawan wrote:


Coba dulu aja bos
Masuk cmd
Fastboot devices
Kbaca ga

On Mar 9, 2010 4:19 PM, "andrew igor" > wrote:


Yah betul itu fastboot
Sebetulnya dari fastboot masukin engineering spl
Cuma aturan masukin spl kan harus atau wajib masukin radio dulu.
Ini radio salah, celakanya spl nya masih s-on.

Kalo mau nekad sih naikin ke new radio sekalian.
Jadi lewat fastboot boot ke recovery, flash enginering spl.
Reboot masuk fastboot lagi, flash new radio, flash new spl, flash new 
recovery.

Reboot masuk fastboot flash old radio, flash old spl, flash old recovery.

Dwyor lo ya :p






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Re: [id-android] Soal Magic nih....

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Coba dulu aja bos
Masuk cmd
Fastboot devices
Kbaca ga

On Mar 9, 2010 4:19 PM, "andrew igor"  wrote:

Yah betul itu fastboot
Sebetulnya dari fastboot masukin engineering spl
Cuma aturan masukin spl kan harus atau wajib masukin radio dulu.
Ini radio salah, celakanya spl nya masih s-on.

Kalo mau nekad sih naikin ke new radio sekalian.
Jadi lewat fastboot boot ke recovery, flash enginering spl.
Reboot masuk fastboot lagi, flash new radio, flash new spl, flash new
recovery.
Reboot masuk fastboot flash old radio, flash old spl, flash old recovery.

Dwyor lo ya :p



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Re: [id-android] Soal Magic nih....

[andrew igor]

Yah betul itu fastboot 
Sebetulnya dari fastboot masukin engineering spl 
Cuma aturan masukin spl kan harus atau wajib masukin radio dulu. 
Ini radio salah, celakanya spl nya masih s-on. 

Kalo mau nekad sih naikin ke new radio sekalian. 
Jadi lewat fastboot boot ke recovery, flash enginering spl. 
Reboot masuk fastboot lagi, flash new radio, flash new spl, flash new recovery. 
Reboot masuk fastboot flash old radio, flash old spl, flash old recovery. 

Dwyor lo ya :p


-Original Message-
From: Justinus 
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:08:11 
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Ini yah fastboot ?

ada link ini bisa gak yah ?
http://forums.androidandme.com/topic/hckdroid-rooting-your-htc-magic-mytouch-not-yet

andrew igor wrote:
> Masuk fastboot bisa?
> Kalo masih bisa masuk fastboot 
> Coba flash radio dan engineering spl (1.33.2010) dan recovery terbaru 
>
> Semoga bisa masuk semua. 
> Nanti kalo semua sudah masuk baru di flash dengan rom lain nya 
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> -Original Message-
> From: Justinus 
> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:51:47 
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>
> internel phone storage
> available space 273MB
>
> makannya, bingung kan :P
>
> p
>
> Timmy Gunawan wrote:
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>> Yg aneh jg itu s-on g
>> Harus nya s-on h
>> Karena htc made = h
>>
>> 
>>> On Mar 9, 2010 3:26 PM, "Justinus" >> <mailto:jusdroi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> waduh, gak tau juga nih, temen beli 2nd dari temen, tp temen beli 
>>> baru dari boss Lucky, tp katanya Magic32a
>>>
>>> paling idupin dulu deh, cek main memory yah
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> barusan coba pake yg ADB
>>>
>>> hasil nya :
>>>
>>> error writing recovery : Permission denied
>>>
>>> hehehe sekalian, keluar/disconeted nya giamanya, apa main cabut usb 
>>> aja :P
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> iGor wrote:
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>>>> sorry bos jus ga keliru ya?
>>>> ini pake 32A atau 32B?
>>>> la tulisannya sapphire 3...
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Re: [id-android] Soal Magic nih....

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Ga bisa bro pastinya kemaren pasti klo flash lwt fastboot remote not
allowed. kejadian saya kemaren sih gt

Untuk goldcard

http://www.tucows.com/preview/605064


2010/3/9 Timmy Gunawan 

> Yup..
> Coba fastboot.. install recovery via fastboot bisa..
> Saya dulu recovery install via fastboot..
>
> On Mar 9, 2010 3:59 PM, "andrew igor"  wrote:
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> Masuk fastboot bisa?
> Kalo masih bisa masuk fastboot
> Coba flash radio dan engineering spl (1.33.2010) dan recovery terbaru
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> Semoga bisa masuk semua.
> Nanti kalo semua sudah masuk baru di flash dengan rom lain nya
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Re: [id-android] Soal Magic nih....

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Yup..
Coba fastboot.. install recovery via fastboot bisa..
Saya dulu recovery install via fastboot..

On Mar 9, 2010 3:59 PM, "andrew igor"  wrote:

Masuk fastboot bisa?
Kalo masih bisa masuk fastboot
Coba flash radio dan engineering spl (1.33.2010) dan recovery terbaru

Semoga bisa masuk semua.
Nanti kalo semua sudah masuk baru di flash dengan rom lain nya
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Re: [id-android] Soal Magic nih....

[Justinus]

gak bisa bos, td sy udah posting :) , ini pake ADB

hasil nya :

error writing recovery : Permission denied


btw bagi QMAT yg punya dong *japri , td cari2 gak ketemu, ada musti 
register...ya udah..register...eee pake CC weks :P




Timmy Gunawan wrote:


Harusnya sapphire pvt 32a
Radio nya kalau g salah kan kpala 3..
Adb g bisa?

On Mar 9, 2010 3:51 PM, "Justinus" > wrote:


internel phone storage
available space 273MB

makannya, bingung kan :P

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>> On Mar 9, 2010 3:26 PM, "Justinus" mailto:jusdroi...@gmail.com> >> wrote:
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Re: [id-android] Soal Magic nih....

[andrew igor]

Masuk fastboot bisa?
Kalo masih bisa masuk fastboot 
Coba flash radio dan engineering spl (1.33.2010) dan recovery terbaru 

Semoga bisa masuk semua. 
Nanti kalo semua sudah masuk baru di flash dengan rom lain nya 
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From: Justinus 
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:51:47 
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Subject: Re: [id-android] Soal Magic nih

internel phone storage
available space 273MB

makannya, bingung kan :P

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Timmy Gunawan wrote:
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> Yg aneh jg itu s-on g
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>> On Mar 9, 2010 3:26 PM, "Justinus" > <mailto:jusdroi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> waduh, gak tau juga nih, temen beli 2nd dari temen, tp temen beli 
>> baru dari boss Lucky, tp katanya Magic32a
>>
>> paling idupin dulu deh, cek main memory yah
>>
>>
>>
>> barusan coba pake yg ADB
>>
>> hasil nya :
>>
>> error writing recovery : Permission denied
>>
>> hehehe sekalian, keluar/disconeted nya giamanya, apa main cabut usb 
>> aja :P
>>
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>> iGor wrote:
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>> > sorry bos jus ga keliru ya?
>> > ini pake 32A atau 32B?
>> > la tulisannya sapphire 3...
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Re: [id-android] Soal Magic nih....

[Timmy Gunawan]

Harusnya sapphire pvt 32a
Radio nya kalau g salah kan kpala 3..
Adb g bisa?

On Mar 9, 2010 3:51 PM, "Justinus"  wrote:

internel phone storage
available space 273MB

makannya, bingung kan :P

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Timmy Gunawan wrote:

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Re: [id-android] Soal Magic nih....

[Deni Permana]

saya kemaren pake cara ini bro just

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548218



2010/3/9 Timmy Gunawan 

> Yg aneh jg itu s-on g
> Harus nya s-on h
> Karena htc made = h
>
> On Mar 9, 2010 3:26 PM, "Justinus"  wrote:
>
> waduh, gak tau juga nih, temen beli 2nd dari temen, tp temen beli baru dari
> boss Lucky, tp katanya Magic32a
>
> paling idupin dulu deh, cek main memory yah
>
>
>
> barusan coba pake yg ADB
>
> hasil nya :
>
> error writing recovery : Permission denied
>
> hehehe sekalian, keluar/disconeted nya giamanya, apa main cabut usb aja :P
>
>
>
>
>
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> iGor wrote:
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> > ini pake 32A atau 32B?
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Re: [id-android] Soal Magic nih....

[Timmy Gunawan]

Yg aneh itu s-on g
Harusnya s-on h
G= google
H= htc

On Mar 9, 2010 3:38 PM, "Justinus"  wrote:

Yup, awalnya saya balikin jadi Unroot dulu dari theunlockr (soalnya manjur
di Dream saya), tp sy juga tau koq ada beda antara Magic 32a dan 32b
Tapi disebutkan bisa utk semua magic
Nah...sampe situ kan tinggal root dgn cara flashrec itu, jalan sih
normaldan awal masuk recovery-mode yg background hitam dgn tanda seru
itu
Krn info-nya telat :P , sy cabut batt aja, nah sampe sekarang gak mau
recovery-mode lagimuncul-nya ya itu..background ijo dgn tulisan mytouch
3g
duh musti goldcard ya :(

Deni Permana wrote:

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Re: [id-android] Soal Magic nih....

[Timmy Gunawan]

Yg aneh jg itu s-on g
Harus nya s-on h
Karena htc made = h

On Mar 9, 2010 3:26 PM, "Justinus"  wrote:

waduh, gak tau juga nih, temen beli 2nd dari temen, tp temen beli baru dari
boss Lucky, tp katanya Magic32a

paling idupin dulu deh, cek main memory yah



barusan coba pake yg ADB

hasil nya :

error writing recovery : Permission denied

hehehe sekalian, keluar/disconeted nya giamanya, apa main cabut usb aja :P






iGor wrote:
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> sorry bos jus ga keliru ya?
> ini pake 32A atau 32B?
> la tulisannya sapphire 3...

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Re: [id-android] Soal Magic nih....

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Yup, awalnya saya balikin jadi Unroot dulu dari theunlockr (soalnya 
manjur di Dream saya), tp sy juga tau koq ada beda antara Magic 32a dan 32b

Tapi disebutkan bisa utk semua magic
Nah...sampe situ kan tinggal root dgn cara flashrec itu, jalan sih 
normaldan awal masuk recovery-mode yg background hitam dgn tanda 
seru itu
Krn info-nya telat :P , sy cabut batt aja, nah sampe sekarang gak 
mau recovery-mode lagimuncul-nya ya itu..background ijo dgn tulisan 
mytouch 3g

duh musti goldcard ya :(

Deni Permana wrote:
Waah ini mah kejadian kaya saya kemaren bro, searh aja postingan saya 
kondisinya sama om. itu abis ngeflash dr mana tuh romnya. dr 
theunlockr bukan? ato dr mana? itu romnya 32b tuh bro  klo 
bootscreenya Mytouch 3g CMIIW dan itu splnya yg perfect bukan 
engineering. saran saya siap2 bikin goldcard om. kemaren saya bs masuk 
ke mytouch 3g trus recoverynya pake yg punya cyanogen br bisa masuk ke 
recovery.





2010/3/9 Justinus mailto:jusdroi...@gmail.com>>

sapphire unknown 32a ship s-on-g
hboot -1.33.0006
radio - 2.22.19.261

Saya ngikutin dari : http://tux.or.id/?p=79

dah berhasil flash custom recovery image nya , trus off-phone, on
dgn home+powertp cuma tampilan backgound ijo dgn tulisan
mytouch3g walau dah teken dan tahan lama.lama banget... :P

kenapa yah ?

trus selanjut nya gimana

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Re: [id-android] Soal Magic nih....

[Justinus]

waduh, gak tau juga nih, temen beli 2nd dari temen, tp temen beli baru 
dari boss Lucky, tp katanya Magic32a


paling idupin dulu deh, cek main memory yah



barusan coba pake yg ADB

hasil nya :

error writing recovery : Permission denied

hehehe sekalian, keluar/disconeted nya giamanya, apa main cabut usb aja :P




iGor wrote:

sorry bos jus ga keliru ya?
ini pake 32A atau 32B?
la tulisannya sapphire 32a kok splash mytouch 3g?

itu 2 barang yang beda lo.
bos jus pake yang mana 32a (magic) atau 32b (my touch 3g)?

salam
iGor

On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 13:59 +0700, Justinus wrote:
  

sapphire unknown 32a ship s-on-g
hboot -1.33.0006
radio - 2.22.19.261

Saya ngikutin dari : http://tux.or.id/?p=79

dah berhasil flash custom recovery image nya , trus off-phone, on dgn 
home+powertp cuma tampilan backgound ijo dgn tulisan mytouch3g walau 
dah teken dan tahan lama.lama banget... :P


kenapa yah ?

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Re: [id-android] Soal Magic nih....

[Deni Permana]

Waah ini mah kejadian kaya saya kemaren bro, searh aja postingan saya
kondisinya sama om. itu abis ngeflash dr mana tuh romnya. dr theunlockr
bukan? ato dr mana? itu romnya 32b tuh bro  klo bootscreenya Mytouch 3g
CMIIW dan itu splnya yg perfect bukan engineering. saran saya siap2 bikin
goldcard om. kemaren saya bs masuk ke mytouch 3g trus recoverynya pake yg
punya cyanogen br bisa masuk ke recovery.




2010/3/9 Justinus 

> sapphire unknown 32a ship s-on-g
> hboot -1.33.0006
> radio - 2.22.19.261
>
> Saya ngikutin dari : http://tux.or.id/?p=79
>
> dah berhasil flash custom recovery image nya , trus off-phone, on dgn
> home+powertp cuma tampilan backgound ijo dgn tulisan mytouch3g walau dah
> teken dan tahan lama.lama banget... :P
>
> kenapa yah ?
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Re: [id-android] Soal Magic nih....

[iGor]

sorry bos jus ga keliru ya?
ini pake 32A atau 32B?
la tulisannya sapphire 32a kok splash mytouch 3g?

itu 2 barang yang beda lo.
bos jus pake yang mana 32a (magic) atau 32b (my touch 3g)?

salam
iGor

On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 13:59 +0700, Justinus wrote:
> sapphire unknown 32a ship s-on-g
> hboot -1.33.0006
> radio - 2.22.19.261
> 
> Saya ngikutin dari : http://tux.or.id/?p=79
> 
> dah berhasil flash custom recovery image nya , trus off-phone, on dgn 
> home+powertp cuma tampilan backgound ijo dgn tulisan mytouch3g walau 
> dah teken dan tahan lama.lama banget... :P
> 
> kenapa yah ?
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