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Re: [id-android] WTI: CM developers passing on Samsung Galaxy S4 - should you?

2013-03-19 Thread Indra D. Kusuma

Pernah baca sih artikel serupa katanya gara2 kurangnya dokumentasi chipset
exynos jadi performa ga akan ngelebihin stock rom

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Re: [id-android] WTI: CM developers passing on Samsung Galaxy S4 - should you?

2013-03-19 Thread Imam Moeloek

Stock rom samsul udah mantab.. Apalagi feature2 di vanila banyak yg di
masukin jg.. cukup laah...

On 3/19/13, Indra D. Kusuma  wrote:
> Pernah baca sih artikel serupa katanya gara2 kurangnya dokumentasi chipset
> exynos jadi performa ga akan ngelebihin stock rom
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Re: [id-android] WTI: CM developers passing on Samsung Galaxy S4 - should you?

2013-03-19 Thread Amer

CM itu beda, IMHO.

Bahkan stock rom pure nya nexus masih ada beberapa fitur yg tidak ada
dibandingkan CM. Jadi kalau CM die hard fans ini lumayan jadi deal breaker.

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On Mar 19, 2013 8:36 PM, "Imam Moeloek"  wrote:

> Stock rom samsul udah mantab.. Apalagi feature2 di vanila banyak yg di
> masukin jg.. cukup laah...
>
> On 3/19/13, Indra D. Kusuma  wrote:
> > Pernah baca sih artikel serupa katanya gara2 kurangnya dokumentasi
> chipset
> > exynos jadi performa ga akan ngelebihin stock rom
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Re: [id-android] WTI: CM developers passing on Samsung Galaxy S4 - should you?

2013-03-19 Thread Yoshwar S

Bener oom... kalo pake Samsung sebenernya agak sayang kalo pake rom yg non
Touchwiz karena fitur2 tambahannya suka jadi gak berfungsi.

Tapi kadang perlu juga utk variasi kalo lagi bosen pake TW ato kepingin
coba fitur2 di OS terbaru yg versi TWnya blm keluar :-)

Mudah2an tim CM berubah pikiran deh.

Salam,
Yoshwar
On Mar 19, 2013 4:36 PM, "Imam Moeloek"  wrote:

> Stock rom samsul udah mantab.. Apalagi feature2 di vanila banyak yg di
> masukin jg.. cukup laah...
>
> On 3/19/13, Indra D. Kusuma  wrote:
> > Pernah baca sih artikel serupa katanya gara2 kurangnya dokumentasi
> chipset
> > exynos jadi performa ga akan ngelebihin stock rom
> >
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Re: [id-android] WTI: CM developers passing on Samsung Galaxy S4 - should you?

2013-03-19 Thread Andre Tampubolon

Padahal Steve Kondik a.k.a Cyanogen, lead dev-nya CM, udah dihire ama Samsung kan?Seharusnya CM hacking di Samsung lebih mudah ya. Atau ada conflict of interest? - AT -Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.From: Yoshwar SSent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 6:30 PMTo: id-android@googlegroups.comReply To: id-android@googlegroups.comSubject: [id-android] WTI: CM developers passing on Samsung Galaxy S4 - should you?Ternyata SGS4 gak hacker friendly juga euy. Berita buruk buat AOSP/CM lovers yg berencana pake SGS4..Salam,Yoshwar
http://www.androidcentral.com/cm-developers-passing-samsung-galaxy-s4-should-you?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews

With the Samsung Galaxy S4 presumably coming soon, many are excited about the possibility of running a more stock Android-based experience, like CyanogenMod, on the hardware. It looks like that's going to be a slower transition than many were hoping, as the current Samsung CM maintainers have said that they have no plans to support the device.
The relationship between Samsung and the people trying to hack CM onto Samsung phones has been pretty tumultuous as of late. On one side, Samsung has to try to protect their IP. Some of the decisions they have made to help do this just aren't very developer-friendly, and some even violate the GPL (an open source license that covers everything in the Linux kernel used in Android). On the other side, you have a group of people that have to have a little access to this IP so they can build a working firmware for the device. They need everything covered under the GPL, and even a little friendly advice from the manufacturers is what it takes sometimes to get everything working just right. With the two sides unable to get together, frustration has set in and the developers have spoken. XpLoDWilD, speaking for Team Hacksung states:

Nobody at Team Hacksung (the team behind Galaxy S2, Note, S3, Note2, G Tabs... official CM ports) plans to buy it, neither develop for it. There are two variants which will be a pain to maintain, [and] the bugs we have on the S3 will probably be there on S4, too (camera), and we all know Samsung ability to release sources while staying in line with mainline. Yes Qualcomm releases sources, but Exynos sources we had were far from [working on] actual Galaxy products. I'm pretty sure the same will happen for this one.
That's a uniform "no" from us.
The other developers are saying basically the same. Codeworkx, Entropy512, and kernel developerGokhan Moral have said they refuse to develop for the Galaxy S4. Read through the break for some discussion of what this might mean for users like us.
Discuss in the Galaxy S4 forums
What does this mean to me?
Maybe a lot, maybe nothing. In the grand scheme of things, Samsung will still sell a shitload of Galaxy S4 phones. Nine out of every ten people buying one will have no clue what CyanogenMod even is, and will never care enough to find out even if they heard mention of it. We all need to realize this every time we talk hacking. These people, along with plenty who know exactly what CM is, will happily use the stock Samsung firmware. There is nothing wrong with liking the stock Samsung firmware. Full stop.
There will also be folks who want custom, AOSP-based firmware on their Galaxy S4. Some who want it bad enough to build it as best they can, and share with the community. But work will be slow, and there's always that chance that it may never happen. Plenty of folks love a challenge.
OK. I want AOSP for sure, what should I do?
A lot of people recommend a Sony Xperia device or an LG device. These companies are working hard with developers, but request that much of what they do stays under the radar and unpublicized. This is so we aren't disappointed if/when we find out our favorite device isn't fully (or partially) supported by CM. Sort of like today. I imagine a few of the developers are quiet in respect to Sony and LG, or they would encourage the same thing.
Of course, the only way to be certain to get AOSP-style support is to buy an AOSP device from Google Play. We understand that not every carrier is supported, and that makes things a bit problematic, but there are just no other devices almost guaranteed to be included in CM.
We're not going to blame you if you pass on a device because you want CM support. Likewise, we fully understand why someone would not care and get the Galaxy S4, and love the way it runs with the stock Samsung firmware or a customized version of it. This is what choice is. We just want to make sure you know what's going on with the whole mess.

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Re: [id-android] WTI: CM developers passing on Samsung Galaxy S4 - should you?

2013-03-19 Thread Ali Ramdani - Thoa -

Tapi Stock rom yang udah di tweak lebih mantep lagi bro...

SOL

2013/3/19 Imam Moeloek 

> Stock rom samsul udah mantab.. Apalagi feature2 di vanila banyak yg di
> masukin jg.. cukup laah...
>
> On 3/19/13, Indra D. Kusuma  wrote:
> > Pernah baca sih artikel serupa katanya gara2 kurangnya dokumentasi
> chipset
> > exynos jadi performa ga akan ngelebihin stock rom
> >
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Re: [id-android] WTI: CM developers passing on Samsung Galaxy S4 - should you?

2013-03-19 Thread Sasongko Adi

Alasan serupa Mengapa banyak kernel hacking pindah ke qualcomm

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On Mar 19, 2013 9:31 PM, "Indra D. Kusuma"  wrote:

> Pernah baca sih artikel serupa katanya gara2 kurangnya dokumentasi chipset
> exynos jadi performa ga akan ngelebihin stock rom
>
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Re: [id-android] WTI: CM developers passing on Samsung Galaxy S4 - should you?

2013-03-19 Thread andy rianton

Berita soal cm gak mau support produk samsung, kayaknya sudah mulai td
kemaren.
Gr2 si samsung gak mau ngeluarkan dokumentasi lengkap untuk hardware
mereka. Mungkin tepatnya bukan gak mau ngeluarin, tp lama ngeluarinnya, yg
ada dokumentasi hardware yg udah jadul.
Mungkin gr2 ini, cm di samsung susah untuk stabil kali yah.
On Mar 19, 2013 6:30 PM, "Yoshwar S"  wrote:

> Ternyata SGS4 gak hacker friendly juga euy. Berita buruk buat AOSP/CM
> lovers yg berencana pake SGS4..
>
> Salam,
> Yoshwar
>
>
>
> http://www.androidcentral.com/cm-developers-passing-samsung-galaxy-s4-should-you?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
>
> With the Samsung Galaxy S4 
> presumably
> coming soon, many are excited about the possibility of running a more stock
> Android-based experience, like 
> CyanogenMod,
> on the hardware. It looks like that's going to be a slower transition than
> many were hoping, as the current Samsung CM maintainers have said that they
> have no plans to support the device.
>
> The relationship between Samsung and the people trying to hack CM onto
> Samsung phones has been pretty tumultuous as of late. On one side, Samsung
> has to try to protect their IP. Some of the decisions they have made to
> help do this just aren't very developer-friendly, and some even violate the
> GPL  (an open source license that
> covers everything in the Linux kernel used in Android). On the other side,
> you have a group of people that have to have a little access to this IP so
> they can build a working firmware for the device. They need everything
> covered under the GPL, and even a little friendly advice from the
> manufacturers is what it takes sometimes to get everything working just
> right. With the two sides unable to get together, frustration has set in
> and the developers have spoken. *XpLoDWilD*, speaking for Team Hacksung
> states
> :
>
> Nobody at Team Hacksung (the team behind Galaxy S2, Note, S3, Note2, G
> Tabs... official CM ports) plans to buy it, neither develop for it. There
> are two variants which will be a pain to maintain, [and] the bugs we have
> on the S3 will probably be there on S4, too (camera), and we all know
> Samsung ability to release sources while staying in line with mainline. Yes
> Qualcomm releases sources, but Exynos sources we had were far from [working
> on] actual Galaxy products. I'm pretty sure the same will happen for this
> one.
>
> That's a uniform "no" from us.
>
> The other developers are saying basically the 
> same
> . *Codeworkx*, *Entropy512*, and kernel developer*Gokhan Moral *have said
> they refuse to develop for the Galaxy S4. Read through the break for some
> discussion of what this might mean for users like us.
> Discuss in the Galaxy S4 
> forums
>  What
> does this mean to me?
>
> Maybe a lot, maybe nothing. In the grand scheme of things, Samsung will
> still sell a shitload of Galaxy S4 phones. Nine out of every ten people
> buying one will have no clue what CyanogenMod even is, and will never care
> enough to find out even if they heard mention of it. We all need to realize
> this every time we talk hacking. These people, along with plenty who know
> exactly what CM is, will happily use the stock Samsung firmware. *There
> is nothing wrong with liking the stock Samsung firmware*. Full stop.
>
> There will also be folks who want custom, AOSP-based firmware on their
> Galaxy S4. Some who want it bad enough to build it as best they can, and
> share with the community. But work will be slow, and there's always that
> chance that it may never happen. Plenty of folks love a challenge.
> OK. I want AOSP for sure, what should I do?
>
> A lot of people recommend a Sony Xperia device or an LG device. These
> companies are working hard with developers, but request that much of what
> they do stays under the radar and unpublicized. This is so we aren't
> disappointed if/when we find out our favorite device isn't fully (or
> partially) supported by CM. Sort of like today. I imagine a few of the
> developers are quiet in respect to Sony and LG, or they would encourage the
> same thing.
>
> Of course, the only way to be certain to get AOSP-style support is to buy
> an AOSP device from Google Play. We understand that not every carrier is
> supported, and that makes things a bit problematic, but there are just no
> other devices almost guaranteed to be included in CM.
>
> We're not going to blame you if you pass on a device because you want CM
> support. Likewise, we fully understand why someone would not care and get
> the Galaxy S4, and love the way it runs with the stock Samsung firmware or
> a customized version of it. This is w

Re: [id-android] WTI: CM developers passing on Samsung Galaxy S4 - should you?

2013-03-19 Thread Mohamad Cipto Pangestu

lama2 vendor android jadi closed source ya. jadi menyimpang dari semangat
open source android pertama kali.

untung google langsung bikin nexus line.


On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 6:11 AM, andy rianton  wrote:

> Berita soal cm gak mau support produk samsung, kayaknya sudah mulai td
> kemaren.
> Gr2 si samsung gak mau ngeluarkan dokumentasi lengkap untuk hardware
> mereka. Mungkin tepatnya bukan gak mau ngeluarin, tp lama ngeluarinnya, yg
> ada dokumentasi hardware yg udah jadul.
> Mungkin gr2 ini, cm di samsung susah untuk stabil kali yah.
> On Mar 19, 2013 6:30 PM, "Yoshwar S"  wrote:
>
>> Ternyata SGS4 gak hacker friendly juga euy. Berita buruk buat AOSP/CM
>> lovers yg berencana pake SGS4..
>>
>> Salam,
>> Yoshwar
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.androidcentral.com/cm-developers-passing-samsung-galaxy-s4-should-you?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
>>
>> With the Samsung Galaxy S4 
>> presumably
>> coming soon, many are excited about the possibility of running a more stock
>> Android-based experience, like 
>> CyanogenMod,
>> on the hardware. It looks like that's going to be a slower transition than
>> many were hoping, as the current Samsung CM maintainers have said that they
>> have no plans to support the device.
>>
>> The relationship between Samsung and the people trying to hack CM onto
>> Samsung phones has been pretty tumultuous as of late. On one side, Samsung
>> has to try to protect their IP. Some of the decisions they have made to
>> help do this just aren't very developer-friendly, and some even violate the
>> GPL  (an open source license that
>> covers everything in the Linux kernel used in Android). On the other side,
>> you have a group of people that have to have a little access to this IP so
>> they can build a working firmware for the device. They need everything
>> covered under the GPL, and even a little friendly advice from the
>> manufacturers is what it takes sometimes to get everything working just
>> right. With the two sides unable to get together, frustration has set in
>> and the developers have spoken. *XpLoDWilD*, speaking for Team Hacksung
>> states
>> :
>>
>> Nobody at Team Hacksung (the team behind Galaxy S2, Note, S3, Note2, G
>> Tabs... official CM ports) plans to buy it, neither develop for it. There
>> are two variants which will be a pain to maintain, [and] the bugs we have
>> on the S3 will probably be there on S4, too (camera), and we all know
>> Samsung ability to release sources while staying in line with mainline. Yes
>> Qualcomm releases sources, but Exynos sources we had were far from [working
>> on] actual Galaxy products. I'm pretty sure the same will happen for this
>> one.
>>
>> That's a uniform "no" from us.
>>
>> The other developers are saying basically the 
>> same
>> . *Codeworkx*, *Entropy512*, and kernel developer*Gokhan Moral *have
>> said they refuse to develop for the Galaxy S4. Read through the break for
>> some discussion of what this might mean for users like us.
>> Discuss in the Galaxy S4 
>> forums
>>  What
>> does this mean to me?
>>
>> Maybe a lot, maybe nothing. In the grand scheme of things, Samsung will
>> still sell a shitload of Galaxy S4 phones. Nine out of every ten people
>> buying one will have no clue what CyanogenMod even is, and will never care
>> enough to find out even if they heard mention of it. We all need to realize
>> this every time we talk hacking. These people, along with plenty who know
>> exactly what CM is, will happily use the stock Samsung firmware. *There
>> is nothing wrong with liking the stock Samsung firmware*. Full stop.
>>
>> There will also be folks who want custom, AOSP-based firmware on their
>> Galaxy S4. Some who want it bad enough to build it as best they can, and
>> share with the community. But work will be slow, and there's always that
>> chance that it may never happen. Plenty of folks love a challenge.
>> OK. I want AOSP for sure, what should I do?
>>
>> A lot of people recommend a Sony Xperia device or an LG device. These
>> companies are working hard with developers, but request that much of what
>> they do stays under the radar and unpublicized. This is so we aren't
>> disappointed if/when we find out our favorite device isn't fully (or
>> partially) supported by CM. Sort of like today. I imagine a few of the
>> developers are quiet in respect to Sony and LG, or they would encourage the
>> same thing.
>>
>> Of course, the only way to be certain to get AOSP-style support is to buy
>> an AOSP device from Google Play. We understand that not every carrier is
>> supported, and that makes things a bit problematic, but there are just no
>> other devices al

Re: [id-android] WTI: CM developers passing on Samsung Galaxy S4 - should you?

2013-03-19 Thread Yoshwar S

Update:

Keliatannya masih ada harapan S4 dapet CM.
Quote dari Cyanogenmod di Google+ ..

" This morning, a comment from a CM collaborator on XDA was taken to be as
an ‘absolute’ in regards to support of the S4. He offered the opinion of
four TeamHacksung maintainers, their frustrations and lack of interest in
supporting the S4. What’s seemingly lost on those reading this is that his
comments as an individual do not speak for CyanogenMod as an organization.
As for the team’s stance on the S4, there isn’t one at this time, and most
definitely won’t be one before the device is sold at retail."

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/03/19/team-hacksung-expresses-frustration-with-exynos-but-neither-confirms-nor-denies-plans-for-cm-on-gs4/

Salam,
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Re: [id-android] WTI: CM developers passing on Samsung Galaxy S4 - should you?

2013-03-19 Thread Imam Moeloek

Yuk pindah Ke xperia z aja wekeke.. Udah ada cm 10.1 yg stable loh wekeke..

On 3/20/13, Yoshwar S  wrote:
> Update:
>
> Keliatannya masih ada harapan S4 dapet CM.
> Quote dari Cyanogenmod di Google+ ..
>
> " This morning, a comment from a CM collaborator on XDA was taken to be as
> an ‘absolute’ in regards to support of the S4. He offered the opinion of
> four TeamHacksung maintainers, their frustrations and lack of interest in
> supporting the S4. What’s seemingly lost on those reading this is that his
> comments as an individual do not speak for CyanogenMod as an organization.
> As for the team’s stance on the S4, there isn’t one at this time, and most
> definitely won’t be one before the device is sold at retail."
>
> http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/03/19/team-hacksung-expresses-frustration-with-exynos-but-neither-confirms-nor-denies-plans-for-cm-on-gs4/
>
> Salam,
> Yoshwar
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Re: [id-android] WTI: CM developers passing on Samsung Galaxy S4 - should you?

2013-03-19 Thread Yoshwar S

Kemarin sempat elus2 Xperia Z di toko. Setelah itu saya mending menghindar
dulu deh dari Xperia Z. Racunnya terlalu dahsyat euy. Gak baik utk
kesehatan dompet.. hehehe.

Salam,
Yoshwar
On Mar 20, 2013 7:40 AM, "Imam Moeloek"  wrote:

> Yuk pindah Ke xperia z aja wekeke.. Udah ada cm 10.1 yg stable loh wekeke..
>
> On 3/20/13, Yoshwar S  wrote:
> > Update:
> >
> > Keliatannya masih ada harapan S4 dapet CM.
> > Quote dari Cyanogenmod di Google+ ..
> >
> > " This morning, a comment from a CM collaborator on XDA was taken to be
> as
> > an ‘absolute’ in regards to support of the S4. He offered the opinion of
> > four TeamHacksung maintainers, their frustrations and lack of interest in
> > supporting the S4. What’s seemingly lost on those reading this is that
> his
> > comments as an individual do not speak for CyanogenMod as an
> organization.
> > As for the team’s stance on the S4, there isn’t one at this time, and
> most
> > definitely won’t be one before the device is sold at retail."
> >
> >
> http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/03/19/team-hacksung-expresses-frustration-with-exynos-but-neither-confirms-nor-denies-plans-for-cm-on-gs4/
> >
> > Salam,
> > Yoshwar
> >
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Re: [id-android] WTI: CM developers passing on Samsung Galaxy S4 - should you?

2013-03-20 Thread Aldian Daru P

tetep HOLO nya Nexus yg paling manteb :P


2013/3/20 Yoshwar S 

> Kemarin sempat elus2 Xperia Z di toko. Setelah itu saya mending menghindar
> dulu deh dari Xperia Z. Racunnya terlalu dahsyat euy. Gak baik utk
> kesehatan dompet.. hehehe.
>
> Salam,
> Yoshwar
> On Mar 20, 2013 7:40 AM, "Imam Moeloek"  wrote:
>
>> Yuk pindah Ke xperia z aja wekeke.. Udah ada cm 10.1 yg stable loh
>> wekeke..
>>
>> On 3/20/13, Yoshwar S  wrote:
>> > Update:
>> >
>> > Keliatannya masih ada harapan S4 dapet CM.
>> > Quote dari Cyanogenmod di Google+ ..
>> >
>> > " This morning, a comment from a CM collaborator on XDA was taken to be
>> as
>> > an ‘absolute’ in regards to support of the S4. He offered the opinion of
>> > four TeamHacksung maintainers, their frustrations and lack of interest
>> in
>> > supporting the S4. What’s seemingly lost on those reading this is that
>> his
>> > comments as an individual do not speak for CyanogenMod as an
>> organization.
>> > As for the team’s stance on the S4, there isn’t one at this time, and
>> most
>> > definitely won’t be one before the device is sold at retail."
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/03/19/team-hacksung-expresses-frustration-with-exynos-but-neither-confirms-nor-denies-plans-for-cm-on-gs4/
>> >
>> > Salam,
>> > Yoshwar
>> >
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>> >
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Re: [id-android] WTI: CM developers passing on Samsung Galaxy S4 - should you?

2013-03-20 Thread Yoshwar S

Toss dulu ah :)
Tapi kalo dibandingkan dgn Touchwiz, buat saya lebih elegan design UInya
Sony euy.

Salam,
Yoshwar


2013/3/20 Aldian Daru P 

> tetep HOLO nya Nexus yg paling manteb :P
>
>
> 2013/3/20 Yoshwar S 
>
>> Kemarin sempat elus2 Xperia Z di toko. Setelah itu saya mending
>> menghindar dulu deh dari Xperia Z. Racunnya terlalu dahsyat euy. Gak baik
>> utk kesehatan dompet.. hehehe.
>>
>> Salam,
>> Yoshwar
>> On Mar 20, 2013 7:40 AM, "Imam Moeloek"  wrote:
>>
>>> Yuk pindah Ke xperia z aja wekeke.. Udah ada cm 10.1 yg stable loh
>>> wekeke..
>>>
>>> On 3/20/13, Yoshwar S  wrote:
>>> > Update:
>>> >
>>> > Keliatannya masih ada harapan S4 dapet CM.
>>> > Quote dari Cyanogenmod di Google+ ..
>>> >
>>> > " This morning, a comment from a CM collaborator on XDA was taken to
>>> be as
>>> > an ‘absolute’ in regards to support of the S4. He offered the opinion
>>> of
>>> > four TeamHacksung maintainers, their frustrations and lack of interest
>>> in
>>> > supporting the S4. What’s seemingly lost on those reading this is that
>>> his
>>> > comments as an individual do not speak for CyanogenMod as an
>>> organization.
>>> > As for the team’s stance on the S4, there isn’t one at this time, and
>>> most
>>> > definitely won’t be one before the device is sold at retail."
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/03/19/team-hacksung-expresses-frustration-with-exynos-but-neither-confirms-nor-denies-plans-for-cm-on-gs4/
>>> >
>>> > Salam,
>>> > Yoshwar
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > ==
>>> > Download Aplikasi Kompas  versi Digital dan Keren
>>> > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kompas.android.kec
>>> > --
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>>> > -
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>>> > Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google.
>>> > Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini,
>>> kirim
>>> > email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
>>> > Untuk opsi lainnya, kunjungi https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Imam Moeloek
>>> Proud Owner of SGT 7.7
>>>
>>> --
>>> ==
>>> Download Aplikasi Kompas  versi Digital dan Keren
>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kompas.android.kec
>>> --
>>> Download Aplikasi AR "MONSTAR" dari Indosat
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>>> -
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>>> Garansi resmi. Dapatkan segera! http://bit.ly/gaddrotor
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>>> ==
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>>> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google.
>>> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini,
>>> kirim email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
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>>>
>>>
>>>  --
>> ==
>> Download Aplikasi Kompas versi Digital dan Keren
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>> -
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>> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini,
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>> Untuk opsi lainnya, kunjungi https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>>
>>
>>
>
>  --
> ==
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> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kompas.android.kec
> --
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Re: [id-android] WTI: CM developers passing on Samsung Galaxy S4 - should you?

2013-03-20 Thread Imam Moeloek

Iya kmrn akhirnya nyanper ke roxy lt 3 buat megang2 si Xperia Z..
paraaah emang racunnyajadi deh malemnya beli di blibli
wakakaka

On 3/20/13, Yoshwar S  wrote:
> Toss dulu ah :)
> Tapi kalo dibandingkan dgn Touchwiz, buat saya lebih elegan design UInya
> Sony euy.
>
> Salam,
> Yoshwar
>
>
> 2013/3/20 Aldian Daru P 
>
>> tetep HOLO nya Nexus yg paling manteb :P
>>
>>
>> 2013/3/20 Yoshwar S 
>>
>>> Kemarin sempat elus2 Xperia Z di toko. Setelah itu saya mending
>>> menghindar dulu deh dari Xperia Z. Racunnya terlalu dahsyat euy. Gak
>>> baik
>>> utk kesehatan dompet.. hehehe.
>>>
>>> Salam,
>>> Yoshwar
>>> On Mar 20, 2013 7:40 AM, "Imam Moeloek"  wrote:
>>>
 Yuk pindah Ke xperia z aja wekeke.. Udah ada cm 10.1 yg stable loh
 wekeke..

 On 3/20/13, Yoshwar S  wrote:
 > Update:
 >
 > Keliatannya masih ada harapan S4 dapet CM.
 > Quote dari Cyanogenmod di Google+ ..
 >
 > " This morning, a comment from a CM collaborator on XDA was taken to
 be as
 > an ‘absolute’ in regards to support of the S4. He offered the opinion
 of
 > four TeamHacksung maintainers, their frustrations and lack of
 > interest
 in
 > supporting the S4. What’s seemingly lost on those reading this is
 > that
 his
 > comments as an individual do not speak for CyanogenMod as an
 organization.
 > As for the team’s stance on the S4, there isn’t one at this time, and
 most
 > definitely won’t be one before the device is sold at retail."
 >
 >
 http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/03/19/team-hacksung-expresses-frustration-with-exynos-but-neither-confirms-nor-denies-plans-for-cm-on-gs4/
 >
 > Salam,
 > Yoshwar
 >
 > --
 > ==
 > Download Aplikasi Kompas  versi Digital dan Keren
 > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kompas.android.kec
 > --
 > Download Aplikasi AR "MONSTAR" dari Indosat
 > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ar.monstarunity
 > -
 > Galaxy Note 2 Best Deal Rp. 6,499rb hanya di Multiply.com!
 > Garansi resmi. Dapatkan segera! http://bit.ly/gaddrotor
 > 
 > Web Hosting, Zimbra Mail Server, VPS gratis Raspberry Pi :
 > http://www.hostune.com
 > 
 > Aturan Umum  ID-Android: http://goo.gl/MpVq8
 > Join Forum  ID-ANDROID: http://forum.android.or.id
 > ==
 > ---
 > Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android]
 > Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google.
 > Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup
 > ini,
 kirim
 > email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
 > Untuk opsi lainnya, kunjungi
 > https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
 >
 >
 >


 --
 Cheers,

 Imam Moeloek
 Proud Owner of SGT 7.7

 --
 ==
 Download Aplikasi Kompas  versi Digital dan Keren
 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kompas.android.kec
 --
 Download Aplikasi AR "MONSTAR" dari Indosat
 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ar.monstarunity
 -
 Galaxy Note 2 Best Deal Rp. 6,499rb hanya di Multiply.com!
 Garansi resmi. Dapatkan segera! http://bit.ly/gaddrotor
 
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 http://www.hostune.com
 
 Aturan Umum  ID-Android: http://goo.gl/MpVq8
 Join Forum  ID-ANDROID: http://forum.android.or.id
 ==
 ---
 Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android]
 Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google.
 Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini,
 kirim email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
 Untuk opsi lainnya, kunjungi https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.


  --
>>> ==
>>> Download Aplikasi Kompas versi Digital dan Keren
>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kompas.android.kec
>>> --
>>> Download Aplikasi AR "MONSTAR" dari Indosat
>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ar.monstarunity
>>> -
>>> Galaxy Note 2 Best Deal Rp. 6,499rb hanya di Multiply.com!
>>> Garansi resmi. Dapatkan segera! http://bit.ly/gaddrotor
>>> 
>>> Web Hosting, Zimbra Mail Server, VPS gratis Raspberry Pi :
>>> http://www.hostune.com
>>> 
>>> Aturan Umum ID-Android: http://goo.gl/MpVq8
>>> Join Forum ID-ANDROID: http://forum.android.or.id
>>> ==
>>> ---
>>> Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android]
>>> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google.
>>> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini,
>>> kirim

Re: [id-android] WTI: CM developers passing on Samsung Galaxy S4 - should you?

2013-03-20 Thread Yoshwar S

Mantappp In depth review dong oom :)

Salam,
Yoshwar


2013/3/20 Imam Moeloek 

> Iya kmrn akhirnya nyanper ke roxy lt 3 buat megang2 si Xperia Z..
> paraaah emang racunnyajadi deh malemnya beli di blibli
> wakakaka
>
> On 3/20/13, Yoshwar S  wrote:
> > Toss dulu ah :)
> > Tapi kalo dibandingkan dgn Touchwiz, buat saya lebih elegan design UInya
> > Sony euy.
> >
> > Salam,
> > Yoshwar
> >
> >
> > 2013/3/20 Aldian Daru P 
> >
> >> tetep HOLO nya Nexus yg paling manteb :P
> >>
> >>
> >> 2013/3/20 Yoshwar S 
> >>
> >>> Kemarin sempat elus2 Xperia Z di toko. Setelah itu saya mending
> >>> menghindar dulu deh dari Xperia Z. Racunnya terlalu dahsyat euy. Gak
> >>> baik
> >>> utk kesehatan dompet.. hehehe.
> >>>
> >>> Salam,
> >>> Yoshwar
> >>> On Mar 20, 2013 7:40 AM, "Imam Moeloek"  wrote:
> >>>
>  Yuk pindah Ke xperia z aja wekeke.. Udah ada cm 10.1 yg stable loh
>  wekeke..
> 
>  On 3/20/13, Yoshwar S  wrote:
>  > Update:
>  >
>  > Keliatannya masih ada harapan S4 dapet CM.
>  > Quote dari Cyanogenmod di Google+ ..
>  >
>  > " This morning, a comment from a CM collaborator on XDA was taken to
>  be as
>  > an ‘absolute’ in regards to support of the S4. He offered the
> opinion
>  of
>  > four TeamHacksung maintainers, their frustrations and lack of
>  > interest
>  in
>  > supporting the S4. What’s seemingly lost on those reading this is
>  > that
>  his
>  > comments as an individual do not speak for CyanogenMod as an
>  organization.
>  > As for the team’s stance on the S4, there isn’t one at this time,
> and
>  most
>  > definitely won’t be one before the device is sold at retail."
>  >
>  >
> 
> http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/03/19/team-hacksung-expresses-frustration-with-exynos-but-neither-confirms-nor-denies-plans-for-cm-on-gs4/
>  >
>  > Salam,
>  > Yoshwar
>  >
>  > --
>  > ==
>  > Download Aplikasi Kompas  versi Digital dan Keren
>  >
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kompas.android.kec
>  > --
>  > Download Aplikasi AR "MONSTAR" dari Indosat
>  > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ar.monstarunity
>  > -
>  > Galaxy Note 2 Best Deal Rp. 6,499rb hanya di Multiply.com!
>  > Garansi resmi. Dapatkan segera! http://bit.ly/gaddrotor
>  > 
>  > Web Hosting, Zimbra Mail Server, VPS gratis Raspberry Pi :
>  > http://www.hostune.com
>  > 
>  > Aturan Umum  ID-Android: http://goo.gl/MpVq8
>  > Join Forum  ID-ANDROID: http://forum.android.or.id
>  > ==
>  > ---
>  > Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android]
>  > Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google.
>  > Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup
>  > ini,
>  kirim
>  > email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
>  > Untuk opsi lainnya, kunjungi
>  > https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>  >
>  >
>  >
> 
> 
>  --
>  Cheers,
> 
>  Imam Moeloek
>  Proud Owner of SGT 7.7
> 
>  --
>  ==
>  Download Aplikasi Kompas  versi Digital dan Keren
>  https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kompas.android.kec
>  --
>  Download Aplikasi AR "MONSTAR" dari Indosat
>  https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ar.monstarunity
>  -
>  Galaxy Note 2 Best Deal Rp. 6,499rb hanya di Multiply.com!
>  Garansi resmi. Dapatkan segera! http://bit.ly/gaddrotor
>  
>  Web Hosting, Zimbra Mail Server, VPS gratis Raspberry Pi :
>  http://www.hostune.com
>  
>  Aturan Umum  ID-Android: http://goo.gl/MpVq8
>  Join Forum  ID-ANDROID: http://forum.android.or.id
>  ==
>  ---
>  Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android]
>  Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google.
>  Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini,
>  kirim email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
>  Untuk opsi lainnya, kunjungi https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out
> .
> 
> 
>   --
> >>> ==
> >>> Download Aplikasi Kompas versi Digital dan Keren
> >>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kompas.android.kec
> >>> --
> >>> Download Aplikasi AR "MONSTAR" dari Indosat
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> >>> -
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> >>> 
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