Re: [id-android] Wta: quadrant score

2010-10-12 Terurut Topik imam wiratmadja
Yang penting bukan panjang-panjangan batang Quadrant, buat saya yg penting
responsif pas jalanin aplikasi apapun.


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  Ah gw ngga berani lagi naikin cpunya
  Mentok disini aja dah
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Re: [id-android] Wta: quadrant score

2010-10-12 Terurut Topik bimo wicaksono
Temans...

Manfaatnya OC kan jalankan aplikasi jd lebih responsif, tapi apakah bikin batt 
jd lebih boros? Adakah caranya di OC tapi batt ngga boros? Apakah bisa dgn 
undervolt?

Kalo OC N1 yg pakai MIUI ada saran di clock berapa?  gimana caranya biar batt 
tetap irit?

TIA

Regards,


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Re: [id-android] Wta: quadrant score

2010-10-12 Terurut Topik Lesjaw™ ♂
bener.. tentu lebih boros.. iritnya tentu jg dgn undervolt :-)..  bimo
biasanya ada kernel yg di oc tp sudah undervolt.. sehingga performance
kencang batre tetep irit..

nilai frekuensi procie yg ideal itu biasanya beda2 .. performance tergantung
banyaknya app yg running toh.. jadi coba experiment sendiri dgn app setcpu..
enaknya dimana.. gitu bim..
On 13 Oct 2010 02:14, bimo wicaksono bimo.mil...@gmail.com wrote:
 Temans...

 Manfaatnya OC kan jalankan aplikasi jd lebih responsif, tapi apakah bikin
batt jd lebih boros? Adakah caranya di OC tapi batt ngga boros? Apakah bisa
dgn undervolt?

 Kalo OC N1 yg pakai MIUI ada saran di clock berapa?  gimana caranya biar
batt tetap irit?

 TIA

 Regards,


 bimo wicaksono

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Re: [id-android] Wta: quadrant score

2010-10-12 Terurut Topik Daniel Vincent
Kalo ada yang undervolt kok masih disediain yang medium, ultra low dll yah oom?

Saya make slaysher 7x1200LV v1.6
Lalu ditambah compcache (ini yg masih binun fungsinya apa) bisa minta 
pencerahannya?


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bener.. tentu lebih boros.. iritnya tentu jg dgn undervolt :-)..  bimo
biasanya ada kernel yg di oc tp sudah undervolt.. sehingga performance
kencang batre tetep irit..

nilai frekuensi procie yg ideal itu biasanya beda2 .. performance tergantung
banyaknya app yg running toh.. jadi coba experiment sendiri dgn app setcpu..
enaknya dimana.. gitu bim..
On 13 Oct 2010 02:14, bimo wicaksono bimo.mil...@gmail.com wrote:
 Temans...

 Manfaatnya OC kan jalankan aplikasi jd lebih responsif, tapi apakah bikin
batt jd lebih boros? Adakah caranya di OC tapi batt ngga boros? Apakah bisa
dgn undervolt?

 Kalo OC N1 yg pakai MIUI ada saran di clock berapa?  gimana caranya biar
batt tetap irit?

 TIA

 Regards,


 bimo wicaksono

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Re: [id-android] Wta: quadrant score

2010-10-12 Terurut Topik bimo wicaksono
Hehehe bro LJ jam segini masih melek aja..

Kalo u/ N1 MIUI ada saran kernel apa yg harus dipakai bro? Soalnya belum pernah 
coba2 selama ini N1 selalu run in normal clock, btw setcpu di pasar malam ada 
ngga? Udah coba register pasar malam tapi kok sampai sekarang belum di approve 
ya? Apa memanf sulit proses approvalnya?

Sol

Regards,


bimo wicaksono

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 02:19:56 
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bener.. tentu lebih boros.. iritnya tentu jg dgn undervolt :-)..  bimo
biasanya ada kernel yg di oc tp sudah undervolt.. sehingga performance
kencang batre tetep irit..

nilai frekuensi procie yg ideal itu biasanya beda2 .. performance tergantung
banyaknya app yg running toh.. jadi coba experiment sendiri dgn app setcpu..
enaknya dimana.. gitu bim..
On 13 Oct 2010 02:14, bimo wicaksono bimo.mil...@gmail.com wrote:
 Temans...

 Manfaatnya OC kan jalankan aplikasi jd lebih responsif, tapi apakah bikin
batt jd lebih boros? Adakah caranya di OC tapi batt ngga boros? Apakah bisa
dgn undervolt?

 Kalo OC N1 yg pakai MIUI ada saran di clock berapa?  gimana caranya biar
batt tetap irit?

 TIA

 Regards,


 bimo wicaksono

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 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 10:46:04
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Re: [id-android] Wta: quadrant score

2010-10-12 Terurut Topik Lesjaw™ ♂
nah gini..

knp di sediain medium,  ultra low dll.. karena tiap device itu kemampuan
procie nya beda2 walau sama2 n1 dgn snapdragon 1ghz.. ada yg mampu
menjalankan procie dgn voltage yg ultra low ada jg ya ga..

perlu di ingat bahwa setiap processor itu beda2 kemampuannya.. jadi test lah
kernel uv (undervolt) sesuai dgn kemampuan procie hh kita..

compache aka compression cache sesuai dgn namanya berfungsi untuk
mengkompres cache dgn harapan agar cache dapat di proses lebih cepat.. klo
ga salah tujuannya jg agar cache menjadi kecil sehingga RAM jadi lebih
lega..

dulu compache dan swap sangat berguna di android device tipe lama yg RAM nya
masih kecil..
On 13 Oct 2010 02:28, Daniel Vincent andr...@id-bbtour.co.cc wrote:
 Kalo ada yang undervolt kok masih disediain yang medium, ultra low dll yah
oom?

 Saya make slaysher 7x1200LV v1.6
 Lalu ditambah compcache (ini yg masih binun fungsinya apa) bisa minta
pencerahannya?


 Best Regards

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 -Original Message-
 From: Lesjaw™ lesjaw.andr...@gmail.com
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 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 02:19:56
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 Subject: Re: [id-android] Wta: quadrant score

 bener.. tentu lebih boros.. iritnya tentu jg dgn undervolt :-).. bimo
 biasanya ada kernel yg di oc tp sudah undervolt.. sehingga performance
 kencang batre tetep irit..

 nilai frekuensi procie yg ideal itu biasanya beda2 .. performance
tergantung
 banyaknya app yg running toh.. jadi coba experiment sendiri dgn app
setcpu..
 enaknya dimana.. gitu bim..
 On 13 Oct 2010 02:14, bimo wicaksono bimo.mil...@gmail.com wrote:
 Temans...

 Manfaatnya OC kan jalankan aplikasi jd lebih responsif, tapi apakah bikin
 batt jd lebih boros? Adakah caranya di OC tapi batt ngga boros? Apakah
bisa
 dgn undervolt?

 Kalo OC N1 yg pakai MIUI ada saran di clock berapa?  gimana caranya biar
 batt tetap irit?

 TIA

 Regards,


 bimo wicaksono

 -Original Message-
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 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 10:46:04
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Re: [id-android] Wta: quadrant score

2010-10-12 Terurut Topik Lesjaw™ ♂
susah tidur nih.. mana mati lampu pula.. hiks..

untuk n1 saya ga coba bim.. di n1 istri saya pasang evil sense dgn kernel
default bawaannya..

setcpu ada di pasar pagi.. tapi yg komplit fiturnya ada free di xda..

saran saya biasanya pembuat kernel ngasih tahu kernel nya compatible dgn rom
yg mana aja..coba aja kernel default nya dulu (bawaan rom).. trs mainkan
setcpu..
On 13 Oct 2010 02:36, bimo wicaksono bimo.mil...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hehehe bro LJ jam segini masih melek aja..

 Kalo u/ N1 MIUI ada saran kernel apa yg harus dipakai bro? Soalnya belum
pernah coba2 selama ini N1 selalu run in normal clock, btw setcpu di pasar
malam ada ngga? Udah coba register pasar malam tapi kok sampai sekarang
belum di approve ya? Apa memanf sulit proses approvalnya?

 Sol

 Regards,


 bimo wicaksono

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 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 02:19:56
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 bener.. tentu lebih boros.. iritnya tentu jg dgn undervolt :-).. bimo
 biasanya ada kernel yg di oc tp sudah undervolt.. sehingga performance
 kencang batre tetep irit..

 nilai frekuensi procie yg ideal itu biasanya beda2 .. performance
tergantung
 banyaknya app yg running toh.. jadi coba experiment sendiri dgn app
setcpu..
 enaknya dimana.. gitu bim..
 On 13 Oct 2010 02:14, bimo wicaksono bimo.mil...@gmail.com wrote:
 Temans...

 Manfaatnya OC kan jalankan aplikasi jd lebih responsif, tapi apakah bikin
 batt jd lebih boros? Adakah caranya di OC tapi batt ngga boros? Apakah
bisa
 dgn undervolt?

 Kalo OC N1 yg pakai MIUI ada saran di clock berapa?  gimana caranya biar
 batt tetap irit?

 TIA

 Regards,


 bimo wicaksono

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 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 10:46:04
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Re: [id-android] Wta: quadrant score

2010-10-12 Terurut Topik bimo wicaksono
Makasih bro...

Kalo mati lampu mending langsung bobo aja.. Hehehe...


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susah tidur nih.. mana mati lampu pula.. hiks..

untuk n1 saya ga coba bim.. di n1 istri saya pasang evil sense dgn kernel
default bawaannya..

setcpu ada di pasar pagi.. tapi yg komplit fiturnya ada free di xda..

saran saya biasanya pembuat kernel ngasih tahu kernel nya compatible dgn rom
yg mana aja..coba aja kernel default nya dulu (bawaan rom).. trs mainkan
setcpu..
On 13 Oct 2010 02:36, bimo wicaksono bimo.mil...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hehehe bro LJ jam segini masih melek aja..

 Kalo u/ N1 MIUI ada saran kernel apa yg harus dipakai bro? Soalnya belum
pernah coba2 selama ini N1 selalu run in normal clock, btw setcpu di pasar
malam ada ngga? Udah coba register pasar malam tapi kok sampai sekarang
belum di approve ya? Apa memanf sulit proses approvalnya?

 Sol

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 bimo wicaksono

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 bener.. tentu lebih boros.. iritnya tentu jg dgn undervolt :-).. bimo
 biasanya ada kernel yg di oc tp sudah undervolt.. sehingga performance
 kencang batre tetep irit..

 nilai frekuensi procie yg ideal itu biasanya beda2 .. performance
tergantung
 banyaknya app yg running toh.. jadi coba experiment sendiri dgn app
setcpu..
 enaknya dimana.. gitu bim..
 On 13 Oct 2010 02:14, bimo wicaksono bimo.mil...@gmail.com wrote:
 Temans...

 Manfaatnya OC kan jalankan aplikasi jd lebih responsif, tapi apakah bikin
 batt jd lebih boros? Adakah caranya di OC tapi batt ngga boros? Apakah
bisa
 dgn undervolt?

 Kalo OC N1 yg pakai MIUI ada saran di clock berapa?  gimana caranya biar
 batt tetap irit?

 TIA

 Regards,


 bimo wicaksono

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 satu lagi, set scaling ke interactive

 Regards.. Adri
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Re: [id-android] Wta: quadrant score

2010-10-12 Terurut Topik bimo wicaksono
Kalo set scalling ke interactive itu fungsinya apa ya? Soalnya cari2 di help 
ngga ketemu

Tq

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bimo wicaksono

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satu lagi, set scaling ke interactive

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Re: [id-android] Wta: quadrant score

2010-10-11 Terurut Topik Ocu Mudo
Ha...ha...
Kecil banget...
Harusnya sama dg Desire
1800an
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Re: [id-android] Wta: quadrant score

2010-10-11 Terurut Topik David Hutabarat
1800??  Ada yg harus ditweak lagi gak dalamnya??
Udah ngubek2 macem2 rom,  desire gue maksimal 1400an quadrantnya..
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Re: [id-android] Wta: quadrant score

2010-10-11 Terurut Topik Ocu Mudo
Pake OC setcpu...sol
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attachment: Quadrant_OpenDesire.png

Re: [id-android] Wta: quadrant score

2010-10-11 Terurut Topik syafrul varrasya
Wah...pr nih berarti.:p
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Re: [id-android] Wta: quadrant score

2010-10-11 Terurut Topik Ocu Mudo
Mana nih benchmark quadrant gtab nya boss?
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Re: [id-android] Wta: quadrant score

2010-10-11 Terurut Topik Nur Arief Putera
oh ya cu, mumpung lagi ngomongin OC, itu OD .34 bisa di OC nggak ya? udah
beda kernel soalnya.takut kenapa-kenapa aja.

@nariefp
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Re: [id-android] Wta: quadrant score

2010-10-11 Terurut Topik Ocu Mudo
Sangat bisa...sol
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 oh ya cu, mumpung lagi ngomongin OC, itu OD .34 bisa di OC nggak ya? udah
 beda kernel soalnya.takut kenapa-kenapa aja.

 @nariefp
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Re: [id-android] Wta: quadrant score

2010-10-11 Terurut Topik Nur Arief Putera
cakep dahmeluncurr...

@nariefp
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 Sangat bisa...sol
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 oh ya cu, mumpung lagi ngomongin OC, itu OD .34 bisa di OC nggak ya? udah
 beda kernel soalnya.takut kenapa-kenapa aja.

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Re: [id-android] Wta: quadrant score

2010-10-11 Terurut Topik Norman Frederik
Suhu Ocu, cara OC pake set cpu gmna?
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Re: [id-android] Wta: quadrant score

2010-10-11 Terurut Topik Ikhwan
Gan, hasilnya disitu pake overclock yah? Kalo pake rom standar tanpa
diapa2in apa memang sama seperti di grafik itu hasilnya?

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Pake OC setcpu...sol
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Re: [id-android] Wta: quadrant score

2010-10-11 Terurut Topik Ocu Mudo
Bila setcpu
Pilih autodetect
Trus di pilihan max geser ke angka paling tinggi..
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Re: [id-android] Wta: quadrant score

2010-10-11 Terurut Topik Adrianto Dimaz
biar valid coba di setCPU min  max clock-nya di kasih frekwensi paling
tinggi. kill running background app..
baru di benchmark lagi

Regards.. Adri.
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2010/10/12 Ocu Mudo ocu.m...@gmail.com

 Bila setcpu
 Pilih autodetect
 Trus di pilihan max geser ke angka paling tinggi..
 On Oct 12, 2010 7:38 AM, Norman Frederik stedr...@gmail.com wrote:

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