Re: [id-android] Wta - pertanyaan super noobie

2010-01-05 Terurut Topik Tony Piter
Thanks suhu2 smua utk input2nya..

Kesimpulan yg dapat saya ambil:
Bb is still a must have device..
Tinggal nabung utk android nya aja
Sementara waktu hasrat utk ber android ria ditunda dulu =p

Tenkiu guys...
Berry lah maka kamu akan di Berry 

-Original Message-
From: jonathan susanto susanto.jonat...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 14:58:50 
To: id-android@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [id-android] Wta - pertanyaan super noobie

Masa sih al... setau gw magic trackball nya gede bener.  Or it just my
feeling?

pake magic + XL unlimited. Maknyuzz

On Jan 5, 2010 11:37 AM, Altama Latona a...@sidarta.net wrote:

2. Untuk mail di android ada aplikasi Gmail. Kalau di BB istilahnya Gmail
amplop merah. Ga kalah realtime sama di BB. Beda beberapa detik saja.  Di
firmware 1.5 dan 1.6 hanya bisa 1 account. Di firmware 2.0 keatas bisa
multiple account. Untuk email selain Gmail bisa pakai 3rd apps seperti K-9
Mail.

3. Tentunya bisa jalan di GPRS/EDGE/3G. Tapi ya menentukan speed bandwith
juga.. Untuk chat,email dan download apps yang kecil sih masih nyaman di
GPRS/EDGE. Kalau mulai streaming youtube dan download 50mb keatas, lebih
nyaman di 3G. Tapi balik lagi, posisi menentukan prestasi.

4. Jujur, android ini data running di backgroundnya kerasa banget.. Apalagi
kalau banyak pasang widget yang butuh koneksi online seperti news, facebook,
dll. Dan untuk messenger kalau online 24/7 pulsa di gerogoti, walaupun tidak
seberapa kalau hanya standby saja.

5. Saya pernah pakai XL Unlimited 150rb/bulan. Sekarang saya pakai indosat
3G inlimited 100rb/bulan. 22nya punya spot tertentu dimana koneksi nya
stabil. Balik kagi ke posisi menentukan prestasi.

6. Tergantung kalau ada yang jual spare part nya atau engga.. Waktu itu
salah satu suhu bilang kalau trackball nya bisa di akalin pakai trackball
punya nya Bold, karena bedanya tipis sekali.

7. IMHO.. Android dan BB punya kelebihan masing2. Kalau di saya BB itu masih
lebih powerful di Mail dan Messengersnya.. Saya merasakan kenyamanannya.
IMHO di lokasi saya berada signal BIS/BES masih jauh lebih stabil daripada
signal GPRS/EDGE/3G standard. Jadi android saya pakai untuk download,
browsing, streaming youtube dan sesekali email/messenger kalau lagi iseng...

Intinya koneksi data di Android itu masih bergantung sama signal
GPRS/EDGE/3G standard di daerah sekitar.. Beda dengan BlackBerry yang sudah
memakai jalur BIS/BES

Kira2 begitu opini dan pendapat sayam

Untuk pertanyaan no. 1 biar suhu aja yang jawab, saya ndak ngerti bahasa
teknis..

Mudah-mudahan membantu ya.
Sent from my BlackBerry®
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-Original Message- From: Tony Piter mailtomybe...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 03:53...

Halo para suhu2 android Uda bosen dgn bb dan stelah sekian lama ikutin milis
android ini niat hati p...

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Re: [id-android] Wta - pertanyaan super noobie

2010-01-05 Terurut Topik Bayu Wicaksono
hmmm maap OOT... pgn tanya dong.. kelebihannya BBM apa yah? coz gw blm
pernah make BB.. :P

2010/1/5 Lesjaw Ardi lesjaw.andr...@gmail.com

 Ups..wow..wow..

 Maaf sebelomnya kepada para bb user..hehehehe...

 Mungkin kita setipe kali ya bro toni..kita termasuk one gadget for all and
 all for one...hehhehe..ga hobby pakai hape lebih dari dua...jadi pilihannya
 bb or android?

 Memang semua tergantung kebutuhan..klo saya liat bb kelebihannya di
 bbm..klo dah pake bbm dan teman, relasi  keluarga di bbm kita sudah banyak,
 ya susah buat pindah..
 Tapi klo racun bbm belom merasuk, saatnya mencoba device lain..

 Masalah koneksi? Saya dulu jg sering ngalamin bb koneksinya bengong..GPRS
 berubah jadi gprs..hehehehe..sering post di milis dgn subject test harap2
 dpt reply... :-)

 Masalah koneksi tergantung operator..klo bagus ya bagus..klo lagi semprul
 ya semuanya semprul..entah itu bb, android atau iphone..klo koneksi lagi
 cupu ya cupu...bahkan di milis sebelah disebutkan klo qos (quality of
 service) layanan data internet yg jalur biasa lebih baik dibanding layanan
 data bb..

 Cuma masalahnya katanya kompresi data di bb maknyuus sekali..sehingga
 proses transfer data walau signal lagi jelek tetep sampai selamat ditujuan
 (di bb maksudnya)

 Push teknologinya emang pancen oye si bb..semuanya di push, entah itu
 email, notifikasi fb atau twitter..klo di android push teknologinya cuma
 baru sampe email doang..(walau analogi notifikasi app di bb jg di trigger
 dari email yg masuk, seperti email notifikasi fb)

 Tapi klo ingin merasakan feel yg berbeda (krn dah bosan di bb) android
 menjadi alternatif yg baik...semua kebutuhan app yg ada di bb ada di
 android..kecuali bbm ya..

 Salam..
 klo ada salah kata mohon rr yg lain di koreksi..

 sent from Milestone...

 On 5 Jan 2010 16:12, Tony Piter mailtomybe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks suhu2 smua utk input2nya..

 Kesimpulan yg dapat saya ambil:
 Bb is still a must have device..
 Tinggal nabung utk android nya aja
 Sementara waktu hasrat utk ber android ria ditunda dulu =p

 Tenkiu guys...

 Berry lah maka kamu akan di Berry
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 Masa sih al... setau gw magic trackball nya gede bener.  Or it just my
 feeling? pake magic + XL ...

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Re: [id-android] Wta - pertanyaan super noobie

2010-01-05 Terurut Topik Jakontil-
bro les...

Untuk twitter di bb kayaknya tetep 'fetch' soalnya make fitur refresh time 
sekian minutes... Jd ga push juga kayaknya

CMIIW (Colek Me If I'm Wrong) 
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-Original Message-
From: Lesjaw Ardi lesjaw.andr...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 16:43:15 
To: id-android@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [id-android] Wta - pertanyaan super noobie

Ups..wow..wow..

Maaf sebelomnya kepada para bb user..hehehehe...

Mungkin kita setipe kali ya bro toni..kita termasuk one gadget for all and
all for one...hehhehe..ga hobby pakai hape lebih dari dua...jadi pilihannya
bb or android?

Memang semua tergantung kebutuhan..klo saya liat bb kelebihannya di bbm..klo
dah pake bbm dan teman, relasi  keluarga di bbm kita sudah banyak, ya susah
buat pindah..
Tapi klo racun bbm belom merasuk, saatnya mencoba device lain..

Masalah koneksi? Saya dulu jg sering ngalamin bb koneksinya bengong..GPRS
berubah jadi gprs..hehehehe..sering post di milis dgn subject test harap2
dpt reply... :-)

Masalah koneksi tergantung operator..klo bagus ya bagus..klo lagi semprul ya
semuanya semprul..entah itu bb, android atau iphone..klo koneksi lagi cupu
ya cupu...bahkan di milis sebelah disebutkan klo qos (quality of service)
layanan data internet yg jalur biasa lebih baik dibanding layanan data bb..

Cuma masalahnya katanya kompresi data di bb maknyuus sekali..sehingga proses
transfer data walau signal lagi jelek tetep sampai selamat ditujuan (di bb
maksudnya)

Push teknologinya emang pancen oye si bb..semuanya di push, entah itu email,
notifikasi fb atau twitter..klo di android push teknologinya cuma baru sampe
email doang..(walau analogi notifikasi app di bb jg di trigger dari email yg
masuk, seperti email notifikasi fb)

Tapi klo ingin merasakan feel yg berbeda (krn dah bosan di bb) android
menjadi alternatif yg baik...semua kebutuhan app yg ada di bb ada di
android..kecuali bbm ya..

Salam..
klo ada salah kata mohon rr yg lain di koreksi..

sent from Milestone...

On 5 Jan 2010 16:12, Tony Piter mailtomybe...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks suhu2 smua utk input2nya..

Kesimpulan yg dapat saya ambil:
Bb is still a must have device..
Tinggal nabung utk android nya aja
Sementara waktu hasrat utk ber android ria ditunda dulu =p

Tenkiu guys...

Berry lah maka kamu akan di Berry
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*Date: *Tue, 5 Jan 2010 14:58:50 +0700

To: id-android@googlegroups.com
*Subject: *Re: [id-android] Wta - pertanyaan super noobie

Masa sih al... setau gw magic trackball nya gede bener.  Or it just my
feeling? pake magic + XL ...

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Re: [id-android] Wta - pertanyaan super noobie

2010-01-05 Terurut Topik Lesjaw Ardi
Ups..wow..wow..

Maaf sebelomnya kepada para bb user..hehehehe...

Mungkin kita setipe kali ya bro toni..kita termasuk one gadget for all and
all for one...hehhehe..ga hobby pakai hape lebih dari dua...jadi pilihannya
bb or android?

Memang semua tergantung kebutuhan..klo saya liat bb kelebihannya di bbm..klo
dah pake bbm dan teman, relasi  keluarga di bbm kita sudah banyak, ya susah
buat pindah..
Tapi klo racun bbm belom merasuk, saatnya mencoba device lain..

Masalah koneksi? Saya dulu jg sering ngalamin bb koneksinya bengong..GPRS
berubah jadi gprs..hehehehe..sering post di milis dgn subject test harap2
dpt reply... :-)

Masalah koneksi tergantung operator..klo bagus ya bagus..klo lagi semprul ya
semuanya semprul..entah itu bb, android atau iphone..klo koneksi lagi cupu
ya cupu...bahkan di milis sebelah disebutkan klo qos (quality of service)
layanan data internet yg jalur biasa lebih baik dibanding layanan data bb..

Cuma masalahnya katanya kompresi data di bb maknyuus sekali..sehingga proses
transfer data walau signal lagi jelek tetep sampai selamat ditujuan (di bb
maksudnya)

Push teknologinya emang pancen oye si bb..semuanya di push, entah itu email,
notifikasi fb atau twitter..klo di android push teknologinya cuma baru sampe
email doang..(walau analogi notifikasi app di bb jg di trigger dari email yg
masuk, seperti email notifikasi fb)

Tapi klo ingin merasakan feel yg berbeda (krn dah bosan di bb) android
menjadi alternatif yg baik...semua kebutuhan app yg ada di bb ada di
android..kecuali bbm ya..

Salam..
klo ada salah kata mohon rr yg lain di koreksi..

sent from Milestone...

On 5 Jan 2010 16:12, Tony Piter mailtomybe...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks suhu2 smua utk input2nya..

Kesimpulan yg dapat saya ambil:
Bb is still a must have device..
Tinggal nabung utk android nya aja
Sementara waktu hasrat utk ber android ria ditunda dulu =p

Tenkiu guys...

Berry lah maka kamu akan di Berry
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*Date: *Tue, 5 Jan 2010 14:58:50 +0700

To: id-android@googlegroups.com
*Subject: *Re: [id-android] Wta - pertanyaan super noobie

Masa sih al... setau gw magic trackball nya gede bener.  Or it just my
feeling? pake magic + XL ...

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Re: [id-android] Wta - pertanyaan super noobie

2010-01-05 Terurut Topik Lesjaw Ardi
Katanya ubertwitter di push ntil?

sent from Milestone...

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bro les...

Untuk twitter di bb kayaknya tetep 'fetch' soalnya make fitur refresh time
sekian minutes... Jd ga push juga kayaknya

CMIIW (Colek Me If I'm Wrong)

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Re: [id-android] Wta - pertanyaan super noobie

2010-01-05 Terurut Topik Lesjaw Ardi
Oiya satu lagi..saya bukan android defender atau bb hater atau
sejenisnya..hehehe..

Yg pasti saya suka yg unik, not boring, bebas mo diapain aja sesuai
kebutuhan saya...dan saya yakin milestone ke depannya oprekable.. :-)

So i choose android.. hehehehe..

sent from Milestone...

On 5 Jan 2010 16:51, Lesjaw Ardi lesjaw.andr...@gmail.com wrote:

Katanya ubertwitter di push ntil?

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  On 5 Jan 2010 16:47, Jakontil- berrii...@gmail.com wrote:   bro
les...   Untuk twitter ...

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Re: [id-android] Wta - pertanyaan super noobie

2010-01-05 Terurut Topik Jakontil-
Ubertwitter masi fetch les
CMIIW (Colek Me If I'm Wrong) 

Saya kena racun android...kepingin balik masa2 jaya WM...yih
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From: Lesjaw Ardi lesjaw.andr...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 17:00:02 
To: id-android@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [id-android] Wta - pertanyaan super noobie

Oiya satu lagi..saya bukan android defender atau bb hater atau
sejenisnya..hehehe..

Yg pasti saya suka yg unik, not boring, bebas mo diapain aja sesuai
kebutuhan saya...dan saya yakin milestone ke depannya oprekable.. :-)

So i choose android.. hehehehe..

sent from Milestone...

On 5 Jan 2010 16:51, Lesjaw Ardi lesjaw.andr...@gmail.com wrote:

Katanya ubertwitter di push ntil?

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  On 5 Jan 2010 16:47, Jakontil- berrii...@gmail.com wrote:   bro
les...   Untuk twitter ...

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Re: [id-android] Wta - pertanyaan super noobie

2010-01-05 Terurut Topik Lesjaw Ardi
Ooo...salah info gw...hehehe...

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On 5 Jan 2010 17:02, Jakontil- berrii...@gmail.com wrote:

Ubertwitter masi fetch les

CMIIW (Colek Me If I'm Wrong)
Saya kena racun android...kepingin balik masa2 jaya WM...yih

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2010-01-05 Terurut Topik rizkie . mailing
Kalo uber twitter sih no match buat twidroid saya rasa,sama sama fetch,twidroid 
jauh lebih ok
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From: Jakontil- berrii...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 10:00:57 
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Ubertwitter masi fetch les
CMIIW (Colek Me If I'm Wrong) 

Saya kena racun android...kepingin balik masa2 jaya WM...yih
 a storm rider 
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follow @jakontil
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 17:00:02 
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Subject: Re: [id-android] Wta - pertanyaan super noobie

Oiya satu lagi..saya bukan android defender atau bb hater atau
sejenisnya..hehehe..

Yg pasti saya suka yg unik, not boring, bebas mo diapain aja sesuai
kebutuhan saya...dan saya yakin milestone ke depannya oprekable.. :-)

So i choose android.. hehehehe..

sent from Milestone...

On 5 Jan 2010 16:51, Lesjaw Ardi lesjaw.andr...@gmail.com wrote:

Katanya ubertwitter di push ntil?

sent from Milestone...

  On 5 Jan 2010 16:47, Jakontil- berrii...@gmail.com wrote:   bro
les...   Untuk twitter ...

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2010-01-05 Terurut Topik widi dream
kelebihan bb perlu sering2 buka casing copot batre,
kebanyakan email cursor tuing2 terus,
nge hang juga lumayan,

Salam -widi-
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On Jan 5, 2010 4:46 PM, Bayu Wicaksono bwicaksono.priv...@gmail.com
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hmmm maap OOT... pgn tanya dong.. kelebihannya BBM apa yah? coz gw blm
pernah make BB.. :P

2010/1/5 Lesjaw Ardi lesjaw.andr...@gmail.com

  Ups..wow..wow..   Maaf sebelomnya kepada para bb user..hehehehe...  
Mungkin kita setipe ka...



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2010-01-05 Terurut Topik Lesjaw Ardi
Wakakakakakakak..iya bro..

Tapi sejak di onyx ama udin eh odin..dah ga ada jam pasir lagi tuh klo
multitasking...

Trs gw salut ama onyx..batrreenya..maknyuuusseandainya android batrenya
seperti itu..hmmm..

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kelebihan bb perlu sering2 buka casing copot batre,
kebanyakan email cursor tuing2 terus,
nge hang juga lumayan,

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wrote:   hmmm maap OO...

 2010/1/5 Lesjaw Ardi lesjaw.andr...@gmail.com

  Ups..wow..wow..   Maaf sebelomnya kepada para bb user..hehehehe...  
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2010-01-05 Terurut Topik widi dream
dan jangan salah,
saya sering alamin di bbm, urutan posting di bbku gak sama dg urutan yg
muncul di bb nya.
kadang suka gak ke delievered, alias tanda floating terus, kalo kelamaan gak
ada koneksi. nanti pas ada koneksi lagi, gak terkirim juga.
kadang kalo masih terkirim yah... bisa jadi ribut malahan. urutan pasti
gak pas aja. bisa gawat,
hehehe

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2010-01-05 Terurut Topik jonathan susanto
Tahan di screen area yang mau di fokus, AFAIK kefoto sendiri kok.

pake magic + XL unlimited. Maknyuzz

On Jan 5, 2010 9:22 PM, snydez sny...@startrek.or.id wrote:

cuma buat yang demen moto-moto khan harus mencet trackball,
kepikiran juga sih, dipencet-pecet emang nya ga pa pa ya? *takut rusak :)

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2010-01-05 Terurut Topik snydez
wah iya, bener.
abisnya 'guide'nya suruh mencet trackball sih..

thanks for the info pak :)


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 Tahan di screen area yang mau di fokus, AFAIK kefoto sendiri kok.


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 cuma buat yang demen moto-moto khan harus mencet trackball,
 kepikiran juga sih, dipencet-pecet emang nya ga pa pa ya? *takut rusak :)



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2010-01-05 Terurut Topik Arianto C Nugroho
buat padanan aja (mungkin memang gak bener2 sama)

Push email BB - di android udah banyak, saya sendiri pake touchdown konek
ke MS Activesync (buat email kantor).. atau bisa pake Seven buat yang
lainnya


BBM di BB - pake YM/MSN/GChat yang ada di eBuddy atau Meebo atau IM ...
tinggal download aja di market ...

Android + unlimited Internet, jujur aja saya gak punya alasan yang cukup
kuat buat make BB ...


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2010-01-05 Terurut Topik jonathan susanto
Ya sebener nya android sama bb ga bisa dibandingin. Beda tipe bro.  Ada Hal
yang ga bisa lepas dari bb,  begitu oils sebalik nya ada Hal di android yang
ga ada di bb.
Bb unggul dalam Hal kompresi data terutama kalo kita orang nya mobile Dan
butuh cepet. Lalu bb bisa nampung up to 11 email termasuk 1 email ops. Dan
satu lagi bb support untuk bisa online 24 jam.  Saya uda nyoba pake im+,
Meebo, ebuddy,  dll including gtalk itself,  suka putus sendiri.

Tetep lah ada kepuasan yang berbeda dari kedua hh tersebut

pake magic + XL unlimited. Maknyuzz

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buat padanan aja (mungkin memang gak bener2 sama)

Push email BB - di android udah banyak, saya sendiri pake touchdown konek
ke MS Activesync (buat email kantor).. atau bisa pake Seven buat yang
lainnya


BBM di BB - pake YM/MSN/GChat yang ada di eBuddy atau Meebo atau IM ...
tinggal download aja di market ...

Android + unlimited Internet, jujur aja saya gak punya alasan yang cukup
kuat buat make BB ...


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2010-01-04 Terurut Topik yopie.suryadi
Nubi jawab pernyataan terakhir ya...
Jujur saya masih butuh bb.
Ada fungsi² di bb yang gak tergantikan di android.
Jadi lebih baik sejalan...hehehehe

Itu buat saya ya...
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From: Tony Piter mailtomybe...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 03:53:04 
To: id-android@googlegroups.com
Subject: [id-android] Wta - pertanyaan super noobie

Halo para suhu2 android
Uda bosen dgn bb dan stelah sekian lama ikutin milis android ini
niat hati pengen nyobain salah satu product android
Tp ada beberapa pertanyaan yg masi nyangkut di hati
Semoga suhu2 bersedia memberi petunjuk =)

1. Apakah rooting (ato apa saja istilahnya) diharuskan utk memaksimalkan 
kinerja handheld android kita?
Sepertinya rooting ini lebih kompleks dibandingkan dgn upgrade OS bb

2. Apakah android bisa push email seperti di bb?

3. Apakah hh android bisa jalan di sinyal dibawah 3G?
Scr sinyal 3G di indo sndr masi belum stabil

4. Apakah ym/msn bisa 24/7 online terus seperti di bb?
Kalo bisa.. Apakah pulsa kita digerogoti terus?

5. Provider GSM apakah yg paling cocok utk digandengkan dgn hh android kita?
Yg unlimited2 skrg kan banyak boongnya jadi males banget kalo kejadian hh 
kenceng abis tp provider ga support

6. Ada bbrp product 'HTC' yg saya perhatiin juga memakai trackball..
Apakah trackball yg dipakai bisa dgn gampang ditukar2?
Scr kalo yg namanya trekbal rentan dgn kotor/rusak/macet..

7. Apakah cocok kalo seorg nubi android memakai HTC Dream?
Kalo iya.. Apakah ada yg bersedia menukarnya dgn bold =p

Sekian pertanyaan dari saya, maap kalo kepanjangan..

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2010-01-04 Terurut Topik indra dwi
Nubie jg coba jawab 
Kekuatan Blackberry fungsi lebih ke chat,push email yang always online online 
ini nggak bisa terhantikan sama HH lain karena kekuatan BIS nggak saat ini blm 
ad saingannya
Klo android bisa jg buat chat dan push email namun tidak sekuat bbdalam push 
email dan. Selalu on line
Androit bisa jalan di 2g dan 3g , kelebihannya dia open source jadi kita bisa 
kustomisasi HH kita memakai software yang luar biasa 
Buat saya blackberry harus punya karena buat komunikasi dan android 
sandingannya menurut saya :)
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Subject: Re: [id-android] Wta - pertanyaan super noobie

Nubi jawab pernyataan terakhir ya...
Jujur saya masih butuh bb.
Ada fungsi² di bb yang gak tergantikan di android.
Jadi lebih baik sejalan...hehehehe

Itu buat saya ya...
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-Original Message-
From: Tony Piter mailtomybe...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 03:53:04 
To: id-android@googlegroups.com
Subject: [id-android] Wta - pertanyaan super noobie

Halo para suhu2 android
Uda bosen dgn bb dan stelah sekian lama ikutin milis android ini
niat hati pengen nyobain salah satu product android
Tp ada beberapa pertanyaan yg masi nyangkut di hati
Semoga suhu2 bersedia memberi petunjuk =)

1. Apakah rooting (ato apa saja istilahnya) diharuskan utk memaksimalkan 
kinerja handheld android kita?
Sepertinya rooting ini lebih kompleks dibandingkan dgn upgrade OS bb

2. Apakah android bisa push email seperti di bb?

3. Apakah hh android bisa jalan di sinyal dibawah 3G?
Scr sinyal 3G di indo sndr masi belum stabil

4. Apakah ym/msn bisa 24/7 online terus seperti di bb?
Kalo bisa.. Apakah pulsa kita digerogoti terus?

5. Provider GSM apakah yg paling cocok utk digandengkan dgn hh android kita?
Yg unlimited2 skrg kan banyak boongnya jadi males banget kalo kejadian hh 
kenceng abis tp provider ga support

6. Ada bbrp product 'HTC' yg saya perhatiin juga memakai trackball..
Apakah trackball yg dipakai bisa dgn gampang ditukar2?
Scr kalo yg namanya trekbal rentan dgn kotor/rusak/macet..

7. Apakah cocok kalo seorg nubi android memakai HTC Dream?
Kalo iya.. Apakah ada yg bersedia menukarnya dgn bold =p

Sekian pertanyaan dari saya, maap kalo kepanjangan..

Thanks n hepi 2010 =)
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2010-01-04 Terurut Topik Altama Latona
2. Untuk mail di android ada aplikasi Gmail. Kalau di BB istilahnya Gmail 
amplop merah. Ga kalah realtime sama di BB. Beda beberapa detik saja.  Di 
firmware 1.5 dan 1.6 hanya bisa 1 account. Di firmware 2.0 keatas bisa multiple 
account. Untuk email selain Gmail bisa pakai 3rd apps seperti K-9 Mail.

3. Tentunya bisa jalan di GPRS/EDGE/3G. Tapi ya menentukan speed bandwith 
juga.. Untuk chat,email dan download apps yang kecil sih masih nyaman di 
GPRS/EDGE. Kalau mulai streaming youtube dan download 50mb keatas, lebih nyaman 
di 3G. Tapi balik lagi, posisi menentukan prestasi.

4. Jujur, android ini data running di backgroundnya kerasa banget.. Apalagi 
kalau banyak pasang widget yang butuh koneksi online seperti news, facebook, 
dll. Dan untuk messenger kalau online 24/7 pulsa di gerogoti, walaupun tidak 
seberapa kalau hanya standby saja.

5. Saya pernah pakai XL Unlimited 150rb/bulan. Sekarang saya pakai indosat 3G 
inlimited 100rb/bulan. 22nya punya spot tertentu dimana koneksi nya stabil. 
Balik kagi ke posisi menentukan prestasi. 

6. Tergantung kalau ada yang jual spare part nya atau engga.. Waktu itu salah 
satu suhu bilang kalau trackball nya bisa di akalin pakai trackball punya nya 
Bold, karena bedanya tipis sekali.

7. IMHO.. Android dan BB punya kelebihan masing2. Kalau di saya BB itu masih 
lebih powerful di Mail dan Messengersnya.. Saya merasakan kenyamanannya. IMHO 
di lokasi saya berada signal BIS/BES masih jauh lebih stabil daripada signal 
GPRS/EDGE/3G standard. Jadi android saya pakai untuk download, browsing, 
streaming youtube dan sesekali email/messenger kalau lagi iseng...

Intinya koneksi data di Android itu masih bergantung sama signal GPRS/EDGE/3G 
standard di daerah sekitar.. Beda dengan BlackBerry yang sudah memakai jalur 
BIS/BES

Kira2 begitu opini dan pendapat sayam

Untuk pertanyaan no. 1 biar suhu aja yang jawab, saya ndak ngerti bahasa 
teknis..

Mudah-mudahan membantu ya.
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 03:53:04 
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Subject: [id-android] Wta - pertanyaan super noobie

Halo para suhu2 android
Uda bosen dgn bb dan stelah sekian lama ikutin milis android ini
niat hati pengen nyobain salah satu product android
Tp ada beberapa pertanyaan yg masi nyangkut di hati
Semoga suhu2 bersedia memberi petunjuk =)

1. Apakah rooting (ato apa saja istilahnya) diharuskan utk memaksimalkan 
kinerja handheld android kita?
Sepertinya rooting ini lebih kompleks dibandingkan dgn upgrade OS bb

2. Apakah android bisa push email seperti di bb?

3. Apakah hh android bisa jalan di sinyal dibawah 3G?
Scr sinyal 3G di indo sndr masi belum stabil

4. Apakah ym/msn bisa 24/7 online terus seperti di bb?
Kalo bisa.. Apakah pulsa kita digerogoti terus?

5. Provider GSM apakah yg paling cocok utk digandengkan dgn hh android kita?
Yg unlimited2 skrg kan banyak boongnya jadi males banget kalo kejadian hh 
kenceng abis tp provider ga support

6. Ada bbrp product 'HTC' yg saya perhatiin juga memakai trackball..
Apakah trackball yg dipakai bisa dgn gampang ditukar2?
Scr kalo yg namanya trekbal rentan dgn kotor/rusak/macet..

7. Apakah cocok kalo seorg nubi android memakai HTC Dream?
Kalo iya.. Apakah ada yg bersedia menukarnya dgn bold =p

Sekian pertanyaan dari saya, maap kalo kepanjangan..

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Re: [id-android] Wta - pertanyaan super noobie

2010-01-04 Terurut Topik Arianto C Nugroho
koreksi dikit ...

pakai BB-pun, kalo signal GPRS/EDGE/3G-nya jelek, pasti koneksi BB ke
BIS/BES akan jelek juga,wong jalur yang dipake sama :)

2010/1/5 Altama Latona a...@sidarta.net

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2010-01-04 Terurut Topik Rachmat Gerhantara
1. ngga harus sebenarnya. cuman ada beberapa aplikasi yang cukup membantu
memerlukan root access. contohnya shoot me, market enabler, wifi tethering
dsb.

2. untuk email android ada Seven n Google Amplop, oleh developer kedua
aplikasi tersebut disebutkan sudah push email.

3. bisa, bisa dibuat 2g only maupun 3g only.

4. tergantung sinyal yang ada. kalo sinyal bagus, maka ngga akan terputus.
:p
sampai saat ini buat im yang paling reliable adalah ebuddy.
pulsa pastilah digerogoti. karena im merupakan proses data.

5. premis, lokasi menentukan prestasi. dan untuk kebutuhan data android,
unlimited is a must.
tapi beberapa rekan disini kayaknya puas ama kerja a**s. sayang belum bisa
mencoba karena disini ngga ada.

6. belum pernah ganti, tapi kalo ngga salah ada temen yang sudah mengganti
trackball-nya.
katanya mudah.

7. kalo mo buat coba2 ngga masalah pakai dream.
cuman kalo ditukar dengan bold, apakah ngga sayang. beberapa rekan disini
masih pakai BB karena untuk sarana email n chat, android belum bisa
mengalahkan BB.
walaupun saya sendiri ikut beberapa milis high trafic masih sanggup
mengikuti walaupun cuma pakai magic.

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Re: [id-android] Wta - pertanyaan super noobie

2010-01-04 Terurut Topik Altama Latona
GPRS-EDGE-3G standard dengan BIS/BES itu memakai bandwith yang berbeda bukan ?

Soalnya setahu saya memakai jalur yang berbeda.. Cmiiw

Perlu penjelasan suhu dari ops telco.
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 12:22:20 
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Subject: Re: [id-android] Wta - pertanyaan super noobie

koreksi dikit ...

pakai BB-pun, kalo signal GPRS/EDGE/3G-nya jelek, pasti koneksi BB ke
BIS/BES akan jelek juga,wong jalur yang dipake sama :)

2010/1/5 Altama Latona a...@sidarta.net

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Re: [id-android] Wta - pertanyaan super noobie

2010-01-04 Terurut Topik Syaiful Asmawan
Yang membedakan gprs /edge /3g hanya di radio saja. Koneksi ke internet
(server rim kalau bb) sama saja.

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GPRS-EDGE-3G standard dengan BIS/BES itu memakai bandwith yang berbeda bukan
?

Soalnya setahu saya memakai jalur yang berbeda.. Cmiiw

Perlu penjelasan suhu dari ops telco.

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koreksi dikit ... pakai BB-pun, kalo signal GPRS/EDGE/3G-nya jelek, pasti
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2010-01-04 Terurut Topik Arianto C Nugroho
Di radio, semua akses 3G/EDGE/GPRS adalah sama mau itu pake BB atau yang
biasa ... makanya saya bilang sekalipun pake BB kalo *signal*-nya jelek ya
jelek jg :)

setelah masuk ke infrastruktur IP, baru biasanya dibedakan antara yang akses
BB (ke RIM) dan yang akses internet biasa ..

2010/1/5 Syaiful Asmawan sasma...@gmail.com

 Yang membedakan gprs /edge /3g hanya di radio saja. Koneksi ke internet
 (server rim kalau bb) sama saja.

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 GPRS-EDGE-3G standard dengan BIS/BES itu memakai bandwith yang berbeda
 bukan ?

 Soalnya setahu saya memakai jalur yang berbeda.. Cmiiw

 Perlu penjelasan suhu dari ops telco.

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2010-01-04 Terurut Topik Iwan^
Beda nya kalo udah masuk SGSN/GGSN
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2010-01-04 Terurut Topik jonathan susanto
Coba ya nubie bantu jawab.

1.  Gak tau masih nubie banget

2.  Bisa.  Uda nyobain pake gmail.  Kaya amplop merah di bb,  cuma di bb kan
pull mail,  ini push mail.

3.  Bisa ada pilihan nya,  bisa di set 2G only. At least di magic ane bisa.

4.  Bisa, tapi sering putus2. Ya itu tadi, posisi menentukan prestasi.

pake magic + XL unlimited. Maknyuzz

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Halo para suhu2 android
Uda bosen dgn bb dan stelah sekian lama ikutin milis android ini
niat hati pengen nyobain salah satu product android
Tp ada beberapa pertanyaan yg masi nyangkut di hati
Semoga suhu2 bersedia memberi petunjuk =)

1. Apakah rooting (ato apa saja istilahnya) diharuskan utk memaksimalkan
kinerja handheld android kita?
Sepertinya rooting ini lebih kompleks dibandingkan dgn upgrade OS bb

2. Apakah android bisa push email seperti di bb?

3. Apakah hh android bisa jalan di sinyal dibawah 3G?
Scr sinyal 3G di indo sndr masi belum stabil

4. Apakah ym/msn bisa 24/7 online terus seperti di bb?
Kalo bisa.. Apakah pulsa kita digerogoti terus?

5. Provider GSM apakah yg paling cocok utk digandengkan dgn hh android kita?
Yg unlimited2 skrg kan banyak boongnya jadi males banget kalo kejadian hh
kenceng abis tp provider ga support

6. Ada bbrp product 'HTC' yg saya perhatiin juga memakai trackball..
Apakah trackball yg dipakai bisa dgn gampang ditukar2?
Scr kalo yg namanya trekbal rentan dgn kotor/rusak/macet..

7. Apakah cocok kalo seorg nubi android memakai HTC Dream?
Kalo iya.. Apakah ada yg bersedia menukarnya dgn bold =p

Sekian pertanyaan dari saya, maap kalo kepanjangan..

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2010-01-04 Terurut Topik jonathan susanto
Walah kepencet send. Ya uda lanjut sini aja.

5. Hmm,  xl unlimited bagus kok.  Selama ini sih ga ada komplain,  bahkan di
jogja banyak manteng 3G.

6.  Magic sama hero pake trackball,  cuma kalo menurut saya sih bakalan lama
rusak nya.  Enakan slide di screen nya daripada pake trackball. Kan
touchscreen boss.

7.  Why not boss.  Ni saya awal tau android malah langsung ke magic.  Totol2
screen nya kadang ga kuat,  enakan pake keyboard kaya nya kaya milestone
sama dream. imho lho.

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On Jan 5, 2010 10:53 AM, Tony Piter mailtomybe...@gmail.com wrote:

Halo para suhu2 android
Uda bosen dgn bb dan stelah sekian lama ikutin milis android ini
niat hati pengen nyobain salah satu product android
Tp ada beberapa pertanyaan yg masi nyangkut di hati
Semoga suhu2 bersedia memberi petunjuk =)

1. Apakah rooting (ato apa saja istilahnya) diharuskan utk memaksimalkan
kinerja handheld android kita?
Sepertinya rooting ini lebih kompleks dibandingkan dgn upgrade OS bb

2. Apakah android bisa push email seperti di bb?

3. Apakah hh android bisa jalan di sinyal dibawah 3G?
Scr sinyal 3G di indo sndr masi belum stabil

4. Apakah ym/msn bisa 24/7 online terus seperti di bb?
Kalo bisa.. Apakah pulsa kita digerogoti terus?

5. Provider GSM apakah yg paling cocok utk digandengkan dgn hh android kita?
Yg unlimited2 skrg kan banyak boongnya jadi males banget kalo kejadian hh
kenceng abis tp provider ga support

6. Ada bbrp product 'HTC' yg saya perhatiin juga memakai trackball..
Apakah trackball yg dipakai bisa dgn gampang ditukar2?
Scr kalo yg namanya trekbal rentan dgn kotor/rusak/macet..

7. Apakah cocok kalo seorg nubi android memakai HTC Dream?
Kalo iya.. Apakah ada yg bersedia menukarnya dgn bold =p

Sekian pertanyaan dari saya, maap kalo kepanjangan..

Thanks n hepi 2010 =)
Berry lah maka kamu akan di Berry

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Re: [id-android] Wta - pertanyaan super noobie

2010-01-04 Terurut Topik jonathan susanto
Masa sih al... setau gw magic trackball nya gede bener.  Or it just my
feeling?

pake magic + XL unlimited. Maknyuzz

On Jan 5, 2010 11:37 AM, Altama Latona a...@sidarta.net wrote:

2. Untuk mail di android ada aplikasi Gmail. Kalau di BB istilahnya Gmail
amplop merah. Ga kalah realtime sama di BB. Beda beberapa detik saja.  Di
firmware 1.5 dan 1.6 hanya bisa 1 account. Di firmware 2.0 keatas bisa
multiple account. Untuk email selain Gmail bisa pakai 3rd apps seperti K-9
Mail.

3. Tentunya bisa jalan di GPRS/EDGE/3G. Tapi ya menentukan speed bandwith
juga.. Untuk chat,email dan download apps yang kecil sih masih nyaman di
GPRS/EDGE. Kalau mulai streaming youtube dan download 50mb keatas, lebih
nyaman di 3G. Tapi balik lagi, posisi menentukan prestasi.

4. Jujur, android ini data running di backgroundnya kerasa banget.. Apalagi
kalau banyak pasang widget yang butuh koneksi online seperti news, facebook,
dll. Dan untuk messenger kalau online 24/7 pulsa di gerogoti, walaupun tidak
seberapa kalau hanya standby saja.

5. Saya pernah pakai XL Unlimited 150rb/bulan. Sekarang saya pakai indosat
3G inlimited 100rb/bulan. 22nya punya spot tertentu dimana koneksi nya
stabil. Balik kagi ke posisi menentukan prestasi.

6. Tergantung kalau ada yang jual spare part nya atau engga.. Waktu itu
salah satu suhu bilang kalau trackball nya bisa di akalin pakai trackball
punya nya Bold, karena bedanya tipis sekali.

7. IMHO.. Android dan BB punya kelebihan masing2. Kalau di saya BB itu masih
lebih powerful di Mail dan Messengersnya.. Saya merasakan kenyamanannya.
IMHO di lokasi saya berada signal BIS/BES masih jauh lebih stabil daripada
signal GPRS/EDGE/3G standard. Jadi android saya pakai untuk download,
browsing, streaming youtube dan sesekali email/messenger kalau lagi iseng...

Intinya koneksi data di Android itu masih bergantung sama signal
GPRS/EDGE/3G standard di daerah sekitar.. Beda dengan BlackBerry yang sudah
memakai jalur BIS/BES

Kira2 begitu opini dan pendapat sayam

Untuk pertanyaan no. 1 biar suhu aja yang jawab, saya ndak ngerti bahasa
teknis..

Mudah-mudahan membantu ya.
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 03:53...

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