Re: Switches on Oz power outlets

2000-03-06 Thread Steven M. Bellovin

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Perry E. Metzger" writes:
 
 Ross Finlayson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Also, don't forget that on wall switches (like almost every country in with
  world except the US :-) "down" means "on".
 
 Places where people use SNMP for turning their lights on and off have
 left this issue far behind. Do you mean to tell me that Australians
 don't all use SNMP for light control yet?
 
It's a security issue -- they've been waiting for SNMPv3 security to go to 
full standard.  Right now, it's only draft.


--Steve Bellovin




New Mailing List for Discussing IPoPTR

2000-03-06 Thread Albert Herrera


A new mailing list is now available to discuss the formation
of a WG specifically addressing IP awareness within Packet
Transport Rings. This is to enable tighter routing and forwarding
controls between L2 and L3 features within these rings.
The new mailing list for IPoPTR (IP over Packet Transport Rings)
is [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, send an email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'subscribe ptrings' in the body
and subject of the message.
The initial goal within this list is to discuss/craft a charter
for IPoPTR and to gauge interest with the intent to have a BOF
or a WG in the Pittsburg timeframe.
The following is a first-cut at a possible charter for a WG
in this space. ***NOTE*** that this is not yet a WG but the hope
is that we will become one.
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Proposed IPOPTR Working Group Charter
Working Group Name:
IP over Packet Transport Rings (IPOPTR)
IETF Area:
Internet Area
Chair(s):
A. Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Other TBD>
Internet Area Director(s):
Thomas Narten [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Erik Nordmark [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Responsible Area Director:
Thomas Narten [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
General Discussion:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (include 'subscribe ptrings'
 in the body and subject of message)

Archive: TBD
Description of Working Group:
Over the past few years, enhancements to traditional
bi-directional ring topologies were defined providing
tremendous benefits for both packet and cell-based flows.
When compared to traditional SONET BLSR or FDDI rings,
Packet Transport Rings provide:
* Full utilization of both (bi-directional,
 counter-rotating)rings for data and control packets
* Destination stripping of unicast traffic for bandwidth
 gains on other ring spans
* Protection switching by wrapping traffic around
 failures with rapid recovery patterned after SONET
rings
* Distributed ring bandwidth fairness algorithms that combine
 global fairness with local optimization
* Media independence, capable of packet and cell transport
 across traditional SONET, DWDM or dark fibre infrastructures
 or a combination of all within the same ring.
Functions currently defined (as well as those currently
under development within the IEEE), primarily address
MAC layer foundations.
The purpose of this effort is to standardize specifications
that will allow upper layer (IP) awareness within these
Packet Transport Rings for tighter routing and forwarding control
as well as more efficient interworking of other features.
Objectives:
The IPOPTR WG plans to deliver IPOPTR Specifications
which will address the following areas:
* Traffic Priority Mapping
* Interactions between the rings and L3 routing protocols
 (including Ring Direction Choice, weights assignments
 to spans, possible IGP enhancements etc.)
* MPLS TE over Packet Transport Rings
This WG will also be the official focus and liaison group to
other standards bodies that are currently developing
specifications for PTRs. This allows for a smooth interaction
and exchange within parallel development processes that can
only benefit all standards bodies involved.
--- end of proposed charter -





Re: IP mapping into SONET/SDH

2000-03-06 Thread C. M. Heard

On Sat, 4 Mar 2000, Harpreet Chohan wrote:

 Does anybody know of any stds for direct IP mapping into a SONET/SDH
 payload (SPE) ?  Thanks in advance.

That question probably should be addressed to T1X1.5, which is the
ANSI-accredited subcommittee with the charter to define SONET payload
mappings.  As far as I am aware, there is nothing currently standardized
nor any ongoing work regarding a direct mapping of IP.  I believe that
the closest thing now standardized is the HDLC-over-SONET mapping that
is used for PPP over SONET (see RFC 2615) and frame relay over SONET.
There was some recent work on defining an Ethernet-over-SONET mapping,
but I don't know its status.  For further information check the T1X1.5
file archive on the committee T1 web site at http://www.t1.org/.

Mike



Switches on Oz power outlets

2000-03-06 Thread Cameron Young

Most of the wall power outlets have little rocker switches built into the
outlet cover that also needs to be turned on.

*Don't* forget to check this if you are charging a cell phone / laptop for
use the next day.  Hotel staff have a habit of turning all these switches
off whenever they clean a room.

Cam



Re: Switches on Oz power outlets

2000-03-06 Thread Peter Deutsch



Ross Finlayson wrote:
 
 At 01:59 PM 3/6/00 -0800, Cameron Young wrote:
 Most of the wall power outlets have little rocker switches built into the
 outlet cover that also needs to be turned on.
 
 *Don't* forget to check this if you are charging a cell phone / laptop for
 use the next day.  Hotel staff have a habit of turning all these switches
 off whenever they clean a room.
 
 Also, don't forget that on wall switches (like almost every country in with
 world except the US :-) "down" means "on".

Well, if you pronounce "U.S." as "United States and Canada, except
for parts of my house in Montreal". As I renovated, I made a point
of going through and installing the switches the "right" way up
(drove my Canadian spouse crazy at the time, but she got used to it!
:-) Of course, now I'm selling the place, the agent seems to think I
should switch them all back...

- peterd