Re: Any comparison Study on MGCP vs H.323, MGCP vs SIP

2000-05-13 Thread Henning Schulzrinne

http://www.cs.columbia.edu/sip has a FAQ addressing this topic.





Re: Any comparison Study on MGCP vs H.323, MGCP vs SIP

2000-05-13 Thread Masataka Ohta

Harald;

 At 09:19 13.05.2000 +0859, Masataka Ohta wrote:
 For VoIP over telephony networks (that is, mostly over non-Internet
 networks), H.323 and SS7 are the protocols to choose, because they
 are defined by ITU-T.
 H.323 is defined for a LAN environment, not for telephone lines.

For telephony people, the IP protocol is for a LAN environment
that there is no difference between H.323, SIP, TELNET, or DNS
for that matter.

 SS7 is not a protocol accessible to the subscriber.

So?

As I said:

 For VoIP over telephony networks

some protocol is necessary between two telephony networks.

FYI, there is a protocol called TBGP proposed in IETF for the purpose.

 If you want to use ITU protocols, please choose some other numbers.

So, you are saying SGCP/MGCP are wrong to use 323.

Fine.

FYI, in my design of "The Simple Internet Phone":

If you are interested in Internet telephony, see you at
INET'2000 in Yokohama for the presentation of our paper
"The Simple Internet Phone".

I chose to keep using 164 (sorry, not 42) at least for the time being,
because it is the easiest way to let subscribers replace telephony
network with the Internet.

Masataka Ohta




Re: VIRUS WARNING

2000-05-13 Thread ned . freed

 On Fri, 12 May 2000 13:38:43 EDT, Jeremy said:
  Can you plase pleaes stop this Virus Thread.

 Actually, there *ARE* important issues here.

 Would the IESG support the creation of a WG to discuss these, with the
 charter of producing a BCP documenting what *should* be done to minimize
 these risks in today's internet?

Talking about a WG seems premature. The first step would be to start a
discussion list and maybe schedule a BOF. If those steps prove fruitful
a WG would be a possibility.

I can set up a mailing list if you like.

Ned




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