RE: remove me from list

2000-06-12 Thread Dawson, Peter D



->-Original Message-
->From: Robert G. Ferrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
->Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 3:51 PM
->To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
->Subject: Re: remove me from list 
->



->
->As to forwarding it to the "appropriate agency for 
->pursuit...,"  good luck.  
->If you find one that does any sort of pursuit, let me know, would you?

yeah.. just post back onto the list ! :) 
THAT info is really welcome !!

/pd




RE: "Big 5" Company SPAMMING

2000-06-12 Thread Scot Mc Pherson

True, but let them do the work...don't do it for them=)

-Scot Mc Pherson
-N2UPA
-RF Engineer
-ClearAccess Communications
-http://www.clearaccess.net
-mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

-Original Message-
From: Dawson, Peter D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 3:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: "Big 5" Company SPAMMING




->-Original Message-
->From: Scot Mc Pherson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
->Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 3:16 PM
->To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
->Subject: RE: "Big 5" Company SPAMMING
->
->
->Actually replying to spam just informs the spammers they have good
->addresses...plus since the e-mailed the list, they don't have your
->individual e-mail addresses, but they will if you respond to them.
->

Actually, they can get the individual email addy... as long
as they join the list... and then email majordemo.. with the request !

/pd




Re: remove me from list

2000-06-12 Thread Robert G. Ferrell

>On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 07:14:45 CDT, Honey Rand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  said:
>> I am on one of your e-mail lists. i promise i will NEVER buy anything from
>> you. Please remove me immediately or i will forward the e-mail to the
>> appropriate agency for pursuit as nuisance spam. This is the second request
>> I have made.
>
>The IETF sells stuff?  News to me... I thought we just had flame wars and
>occasionally went into feline-emulation mode and cough up a hairb^H^H^H^H^HRFC.

Well, she didn't actually say we *sold* stuff.  She just said that she wouldn't 
buy anything from us.  Heck, neither would I. 

As to forwarding it to the "appropriate agency for pursuit...,"  good luck.  
If you find one that does any sort of pursuit, let me know, would you?

RGF

Robert G. Ferrell, CISSP
Information Systems Security Officer
National Business Center, US DoI
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Not an official statement by any entity of the US Government





RE: "Big 5" Company SPAMMING

2000-06-12 Thread Dawson, Peter D



->-Original Message-
->From: Scot Mc Pherson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
->Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 3:16 PM
->To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
->Subject: RE: "Big 5" Company SPAMMING
->
->
->Actually replying to spam just informs the spammers they have good
->addresses...plus since the e-mailed the list, they don't have your
->individual e-mail addresses, but they will if you respond to them.
->

Actually, they can get the individual email addy... as long
as they join the list... and then email majordemo.. with the request !

/pd




Re: "Big 5" Company SPAMMING

2000-06-12 Thread Kurt Weber

Better yet, make a post to a newsgroup that no one uses anymore that
contains the email address a few thousand times.  Can we say Spambot Heaven?

Regards,
Kurt Weber
ROW Software and Web Design
http://www.rowsw.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


- Original Message -
From: "Betsy Brennan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: "Big 5" Company SPAMMING


> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > David Fann
> > eJobs, Inc.
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> How about this one? Everyone want to send a not interested email to
> them, so they'll know this is not the place for their advertising?
>





RE: "Big 5" Company SPAMMING

2000-06-12 Thread Scot Mc Pherson

Actually replying to spam just informs the spammers they have good
addresses...plus since the e-mailed the list, they don't have your
individual e-mail addresses, but they will if you respond to them.


-Scot Mc Pherson
-N2UPA
-RF Engineer
-ClearAccess Communications
-http://www.clearaccess.net
-mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

-Original Message-
From: Betsy Brennan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 3:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: "Big 5" Company SPAMMING


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Regards,
> 
> David Fann
> eJobs, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

How about this one? Everyone want to send a not interested email to
them, so they'll know this is not the place for their advertising?




Re: "Big 5" Company SPAMMING

2000-06-12 Thread Betsy Brennan

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Regards,
> 
> David Fann
> eJobs, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

How about this one? Everyone want to send a not interested email to
them, so they'll know this is not the place for their advertising?




Re: remove me from list

2000-06-12 Thread Kurt Weber

To be perfectly honest, I think we're just dealing with someone who just
doesn't know what they're talking about.  Probably an AOLuser.

Regards,
Kurt Weber
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ROOT of All Evil (ask me for details)
LONG LIVE LINUX! KILL WINBLOWS!
God of local.linux-isp and alt.syntax.tactical

- Original Message -
From: "Donald E. Eastlake 3rd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: remove me from list


>
> Uhhh, can't you tell a message that's just a troll?  :-)
>
> I, at least, am getting an ever increasing number of such messages and
> I feel pretty sure they are just a slighltly more subtle way to get
> you to respond so they can add you to their database of known good
> emails to spam.
>
> Donald
>
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> Cc:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 07:14:45 CDT, Honey Rand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  said:
> >> I am on one of your e-mail lists. i promise i will NEVER buy anything
from
> >> you. Please remove me immediately or i will forward the e-mail to the
> >> appropriate agency for pursuit as nuisance spam. This is the second
request
> >> I have made.
> >
> >The IETF sells stuff?  News to me... I thought we just had flame wars and
> >occasionally went into feline-emulation mode and cough up a
hairb^H^H^H^H^HRFC.
> >
> >(Are you sure that you aren't complaining about somebody who send spam to
> >the IETF mailing list?)
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Re: remove me from list

2000-06-12 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks

On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 13:04:02 EDT, "Donald E. Eastlake 3rd" said:
> 
> Uhhh, can't you tell a message that's just a troll?  :-)
> 
> I, at least, am getting an ever increasing number of such messages and
> I feel pretty sure they are just a slighltly more subtle way to get
> you to respond so they can add you to their database of known good
> emails to spam.

Well, so far today I've already had at leeast 3-4 people who complained
to the Listserv administrator (me) about a list spamming them, when they
didn't understand it's a spammer nailing their list.

Obviously, I wasn't caffienated enough to distinguish the troll from
my user community. ;)
-- 
Valdis Kletnieks
Operating Systems Analyst
Virginia Tech



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Re: remove me from list

2000-06-12 Thread Donald E. Eastlake 3rd


Uhhh, can't you tell a message that's just a troll?  :-)

I, at least, am getting an ever increasing number of such messages and
I feel pretty sure they are just a slighltly more subtle way to get
you to respond so they can add you to their database of known good
emails to spam.

Donald

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>On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 07:14:45 CDT, Honey Rand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  said:
>> I am on one of your e-mail lists. i promise i will NEVER buy anything from
>> you. Please remove me immediately or i will forward the e-mail to the
>> appropriate agency for pursuit as nuisance spam. This is the second request
>> I have made.
>
>The IETF sells stuff?  News to me... I thought we just had flame wars and
>occasionally went into feline-emulation mode and cough up a hairb^H^H^H^H^HRFC.
>
>(Are you sure that you aren't complaining about somebody who send spam to
>the IETF mailing list?)
>-- 
>   Valdis Kletnieks
>   Operating Systems Analyst
>   Virginia Tech
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"Big 5" Company Nationwide: B-2-B e-Commerce Consultants & Programmers/Developers

2000-06-12 Thread wfann



I am working for a "Big 5" consulting company.  We are currently seeking
skilled e-commerce professionals for immediate placement in fulltime
positions.  If you, or someone you know, would like to learn more
information about these unique opportunities simply attach your resume and
return it today.  If you prefer you can forward your phone number with a
convenient time for me to call.

Regards,

David Fann
eJobs, Inc.
972-934-2100 x 336
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: remove me from list

2000-06-12 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks

On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 07:14:45 CDT, Honey Rand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  said:
> I am on one of your e-mail lists. i promise i will NEVER buy anything from
> you. Please remove me immediately or i will forward the e-mail to the
> appropriate agency for pursuit as nuisance spam. This is the second request
> I have made.

The IETF sells stuff?  News to me... I thought we just had flame wars and
occasionally went into feline-emulation mode and cough up a hairb^H^H^H^H^HRFC.

(Are you sure that you aren't complaining about somebody who send spam to
the IETF mailing list?)
-- 
Valdis Kletnieks
Operating Systems Analyst
Virginia Tech


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RE: NAT Checkpoint Firewall 1

2000-06-12 Thread R.Ilker Gokhan
Title: RE: NAT Checkpoint Firewall 1






>-Original Message-
>From: noor sayed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 12:26 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: NAT Checkpoint Firewall 1


>Installed Checkpoint Firewall 1 with three Network Interface.
>One is connecting to the outside world, one to local-net and other to DMZ. (for Local-net and DMZ 192.168.xx.xx ip address has been >used)  

First, i think you shouldn't use the same ip address range both for your on local-net and DMZ. 


>configured the workstation properties of the mail server using static NAT.
>i use the route add command on the fire wall machine for mapping the Private  IP address of the mail server to Public one.

you don't need use the route command for routing. you can use FW-1's rule for routing. Also, is ICMP feature on the FW-1 open? You can see it from logs of FW. 


>PROBLEM


>1) My mail server is on the Local-net From the firewall i cannot ping the mail server Private IP address (192.168.xx.xx), but i can ping >the network interface connected to the local-net on the firewall machine . i cannot even ping the Public IP address which i have map to the mail-srv.

Because when the FW-1 has ping, FW send this request to the outside because of NAT. If your FW is on UNIX or Linux you can scan this situation with "tcpdump". If you want to use NAT. You should create an "Address-range" into the FW-1 that contains all of your clients. and write appropriate rule.

Best regards..
Ilker G.





remove me from list

2000-06-12 Thread Honey Rand

I am on one of your e-mail lists. i promise i will NEVER buy anything from
you. Please remove me immediately or i will forward the e-mail to the
appropriate agency for pursuit as nuisance spam. This is the second request
I have made.