Re: DNSng: where to discuss/get info?

2001-03-02 Thread Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim

Mohsen BANAN-Public wrote:
 
> Did you follow the discussions that I initiated on
> a similar set of topics on the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> mailing lists about two years ago?

Nope, but what was the conclusion? Where (URL) is it archived?
Basically, my question was because of IAB's assertion 
in RFC-2826 "IAB Technical Comment on the Unique DNS Root" 
( http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2826.html )

> Bob Allisat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> followed up on that idea...

I am not aware that he is interested in the technical aspect
of DNS.

> I am also interested in the answer to your question.
>Rahmat> - is there any WG, or organization, or list, or whatever
>Rahmat>   which is actively discussing the TECHNICAL (not political)
>Rahmat>   aspect of how a new DNS scheme should be?

Perhaps, we should discuss this in private. What I have in 
mind is somewhat of an "address book" that is publicly 
accessible, perhaps through an ordinary DNS. Since it is 
publicly accessible, it can be shared/adopted by others.

But, still there will be a legal issue here. Since
XYZZY lawyers believe that they are entitled to
XYZZY.com, XYZZY.net, XYZZY.org, XYZZY.any.other.TLD,
do they have right over the XYZZY definition in my
private address book?


regards,

-- 
Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim - VLSM-TJT - http://rms46.vlsm.org
- Jangan,jangan,samakan;VLSM-TJT dengan yang lain! A.Rafiq




draft-many-gmpls-architecture-00.txt

2001-03-02 Thread Mannie, Eric

Hi All,

>Wow. An I-D with 25 authors. I see we're starting to emulate the
experimental
>physics community! But what will we do when there are too many names to
>fit on the first page?
>
>   Noel

26 authors indeed, you forgot one :-)

It simply shows the interest of the community for that work !

Rgds,

Eric (the mad-editor-trying-to-synchronize-everything :-)

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IETF 50 BOF -- HIP

2001-03-02 Thread Robert Moskowitz

TUESDAY, March 20, 2001
1415-1515 Afternoon Sessions II


Host Identity Payload (HIP) BOF

Chair

Tim Shepard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Area Director(s):

Jeffrey Schiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Marcus Leech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Security Area Advisor:

TBD

Mailing Lists:

  General Discussion:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To Subscribe: http://mail.freeswan.org/mailman/listinfo/hipsec
  Archive:  http://mail.freeswan.org/pipermail/hipsec/
  Web Site: http://homebase.htt-consult.com/HIP.html


Description of Working Group:

IP has suffered for the lack of security. Efforts like IPsec and DNSSEC 
have added various levels of security to IP, but have not addressed some of 
the fundamental security deficiencies in IP. By adding a cryptographic Host 
Identity and a payload for
its exchange between two hosts, we can greatly enhance the security of IP 
while addressing a fundamental flaw in IP. This flaw being the lack of a 
true identity for a host that is independent of how IP packets are routed 
to a host.

By adding a Host Identity namespace to the IP protocol, the role of the IP 
address changes to simply a packet forwarding namespace, since all of the 
higher protocols are bound to the Host Identity. This provides for cleaner 
host mobility and addressing realm transition (i.e. NAT) methodology. 
However, adding a Host Identity provides for a new class of Denial Of
Service attacks, and thus the Host Identity Payload (HIP) and its exchange 
protocol are carefully crafted to not only avoid introducing DOS attacks, 
but also to lessen the opportunity for the existing transport level DOS 
attacks.

The working group will produce two standards-track documents:

The Host Identity Architecture
The Host Identity Payload and Protocol

And one Informational document:

The Host Identity Implementation

Goals and Milestones:

Feb 01 Submit HIP drafts
Jun 01 Finalize HIP drafts
Sep 01 HIP specification to standards track

Internet-Drafts:

Host Identity Payload Architecture - draft-moskowitz-hip-arch-02.txt
Host Identity Payload And Protocol - draft-moskowitz-hip-03.txt
Host Identity Payload Implementation - draft-moskowitz-hip-impl-01.txt

No Request For Comments


Tentative Agenda

Agenda Bashing  5 min
HIP presentation20 min
Discussion  20 min
WG Charter  10 min
Wrap up 5 min




Revision of the Tao available

2001-03-02 Thread Steve Coya



Greetings - on behalf of the User Services Working Group, I'd like to
encourage everyone to take a look at the recently revised "Tao of IETF:"

draft-ietf-uswg-tao-03.txt

If you're new to the IETF, read the early parts of the doc to find answers
to some of life's deep mysteries, previously known only to a select few
(e.g., the shocking meaning behind the little colored dots seen on some
people's badges.)  If you're a long-time attendee, read the Tao and come
to the USWG meeting (Monday at 1:00 p.m.) to let the editors know what
you'd like to change.  (Newcomers are cordially invited to the USWG
meeting too.)

Have fun reading, and see you in Minneapolis!









Re: I-D ACTION:draft-many-gmpls-architecture-00.txt

2001-03-02 Thread Matt Crawford

> > Title   : Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS)
>   Architecture
> > Author(s)   : P. Ashwood-Smith et al.
> 
> Wow. An I-D with 25 authors. I see we're starting to emulate the experimental
> physics community!

Noel, this falls so incredibly short of the state of the high energy
physics "art", the difference is like NCP and IPv6 address space.

http://www-cdf.fnal.gov/top_status/prl_cdf.ps
or
http://www-d0.fnal.gov/www_buffer/pub/pub001_dzero_detector.ps




Re: draft-many-gmpls-architecture-00.txt

2001-03-02 Thread Bob Braden

  *> 26 authors indeed, you forgot one :-)
  *> 
  *> It simply shows the interest of the community for that work !
  *> 
  *> Rgds,
  *> 
  *> Eric (the mad-editor-trying-to-synchronize-everything :-)
  *> 

Based on that criterion, we can expect that some future RFCs will
have hundreds of authors? Maybe we should include as authors everyone
on the relevant working group mailing list?  One would have to
presume they are all interested.

I agree with Noel's implication: are the Internet Drafts and RFCs
becoming a vanity press?

Bob Braden




note from the operational side of the house

2001-03-02 Thread Sean Doran

I realize that this is more of an operator's nightmare than anything else,
but nevertheless, some of you may be interested in this article:

http://www.business20.com/content/channels/technology/2001/03/02/27329

I wonder if the future's most effective denial-of-service attacks
will simply trigger semiautomatic "your customer XYZ isn't doing
enough to protect our intellectual property, so disconnect them,
or we'll increase your legal bills alot" claims from publishing
houses and the like.   This could be much harder to protect oneself
against in the long term than even distributed flood attacks.

I also wonder if this sort of thing is already happening.

Sean.