Re: contents July COOK Report on Ethernet in the first mile

2001-05-15 Thread Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim

On Mon, 14 May 2001, Harald Alvestrand - IETF Chair wrote:

> I believe this advertising is inappropriate on the IETF list.
> Please stop.

> At 20:25 12.05.2001 -0400, Gordon Cook wrote:
>>
>>The COOK Report on Internet July 2001 (Vol. 10, No. 4)
>>
>> [...]

Why? 
- Too late: after more than 10 years, why stop it now?
- That message, "was passed through [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
  Therefore, it is kosher :^).
- Last, how different is that message compared with
  the monthly ietf_censored posting?

from me to you (da da da da da dam dam da :-),

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DNSO Filter circumvention

2001-05-15 Thread Jeff Williams

All assembly members,

  Recently Harald incorrectly reported that I was "Bcc'ing" GA members.
This is of course to me terribly laughable and somewhat disappointing
coming from the now IETF Chair.  One with such supposed technical
knowledge should know that there are a number of ways in which
Majordomo can be circumvented when filters are set.  But it seems
that Harald, WXW and Patrick are either unaware of these methods,
or are only jerking all of the GA members off.  Hence I thought I would
post this brief message to make you all aware.

  Harald, perhaps you should get some special classes from Andy M-M?
>;)

  I really luved Patrick's response!  ROFLMAO!  Way to go there,
Patrick!
It seems that Jefsey was correct in his evaluation of you a couple of
days
ago.

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Re: advertising on official IETF mailing lists

2001-05-15 Thread RJ Atkinson

At 05:05 15/05/01, Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim wrote:
>Why? 

It isn't an IETF standards discussion.  It is 
advertising for a commercial product.

>- Too late: after more than 10 years, why stop it now?

Better late than never.  

>- That message, "was passed through [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
>  Therefore, it is kosher :^).

Nope.  IETF Censored isn't an IETF list, though an IETF list
is filtered (by someone other than an IETF officer) into that list.

>- Last, how different is that message compared with
>  the monthly ietf_censored posting?

IETF censored is not an IETF official mailing list.
IETF Censored is a private mailing list operated out of Italy.

Ran




I just joined this list......

2001-05-15 Thread Jeff Prodzinski

and I cannot believe the spam that came along with it... Is this normal or did I join 
at a bad time?




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Re: I just joined this list......

2001-05-15 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks

On Tue, 15 May 2001 07:59:40 PDT, Jeff Prodzinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  said:
> and I cannot believe the spam that came along with it... Is this normal
> or did I join at a bad time?

You joined at a bad time.  Usually this list is full of other recurring
threads such as the evils of NAT, copyrights on RFCs, and whether XML
is suitable for RFC production. ;)


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Microsoft-Starbucks...could be "BIG STAR?" ( A Proposal)

2001-05-15 Thread kysi ferul
 
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Casey Farrell, Internet-Mobile-Networking Designer

RE: Joint Venturing Microsoft/Starbucks ...'PROPOSAL?'

Attn: Beret Severson & Alan Gulick

  How is this for a great idea? 

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  ANYWAY...PLease give me a callor drop me a line for 
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tel: 415/664-2489

   316 5742 Copyright 1987

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RE: Off Topic; "Seven Daze in May"

2001-05-15 Thread kysi ferul
 
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Dear Mr. Scanlon, 

 How is this for a 'next'...star..."BIG STAR!"

 Put to Seattle-based giants together...in a INTERNET
MARKET ...and you got the best of both worlds...the 
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--- Casey Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Casey Farrell, Internet-Mobile-Networking Designer
> 
> RE: Joint Venturing Microsoft/Starbucks
> ...'PROPOSAL?'
> 
> Attn: Beret Severson & Alan Gulick
> 
>   How is this for a great idea? 
> 
>   A CELEBRITY 'TATTLE SHEET'.."BIG STAR!"
> 
>  It would work this way..."STARBUCKS" would have a 
> 'spin-off' label: "316-5742" ('Pronounced' "BIG
> STAR!")
> 
>  And the COFFEE CUPS ...T-SHIRTS ...ETC which go
> along
> with the 'SOCIETY PAGE'...'PEOPLE MAGAZINE' kind-of
> newspaper
>
'TRAYLINER'...PLACE-SETTING'...'SHOPPING-BAG'...'COOKIE-BAG'...etc.
> would have this LOGO...BRAND.
> 
>316 5742
> 
> 2E6157E2ED 724DEM42K
> 
>  341N321D6E 15L4ND, W45H1N67ON
> 
>   Get it? That would be the COMBINATION of STARBUCKS
> &
> MICROSOFT as a
> SPORTSWEAR...PUBLISHING...FOOD...ENTERTAINMENT..etc.
> Business with it's own DOT COM e-biz
> 1-800-/10/10..#?
> 
>   ANYWAY...PLease give me a callor drop me a line
> for 
> details! Thank you,
> 
>   Casey Farrell
> 
> tel: 415/664-2489
> 
>316 5742 Copyright 1987
> 
>   All Rights Reserved
> 
>  This Letter & Contents Copyright 2001 Casey Farrell
>  
> 
>   
> 
> =
> 
> Casey Farrell;
> Information Designer
> San Francisco
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> __
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great
> prices
> http://auctions.yahoo.com/
> 


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Re: advertising on official IETF mailing lists

2001-05-15 Thread Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim

Hello:

First of all, thank you for reply. And by the way,
you do not need to send me an extra copy of your
email (since I am on the IETF list). 

Second,  I get more annoyed when receive:
- extra copies of a same email
- "I am out of office" messages (guess: how many will I
  receive soon...).
- be rich in 7 days adv.
- Goldstein's tonner supply adv;
compared to a single predictable (filterable) "monthly 
report" posting.

Third, but it should not be considered as supporting
that monthly report post. I was questioning the
reason for stopping it.

On Tue, 15 May 2001, RJ Atkinson wrote:

>>- That message, "was passed through [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
>>  Therefore, it is kosher :^).
> Nope.  IETF Censored isn't an IETF list, though an IETF list
> is filtered (by someone other than an IETF officer) into that list.

So, why had that "IETF officer" not censored it until
recently?

>>- Last, how different is that message compared with
>>  the monthly ietf_censored posting?
> 
> IETF censored is not an IETF official mailing list.
> IETF Censored is a private mailing list operated out of Italy.

Yes, but it is allowed to do a montly posting
to the IETF list?

Forth, we can work it out... we can work out...
Life is very short, and there is no time for fussing
and fighting my friend...

best regards,

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WSES MIV: Official WSES News Letter for MULTIMEDIA, INTERNET, VIDEO, SIGNAL AND IMAGE PROCESSING ROBOTICS, DISTANCE LEARNING, COMMUNICATIONS

2001-05-15 Thread WSES MIV: Official News Letter for MULTIMEDIA, INTERNET, VIDEO, SIGNAL AND IMAGE PROCESSING, ROBOTICS, DISTANCE LEARNING, COMMUNICATIONS

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