Seould Hotel reservtions - update

[David Oran]

I retransmitted my hotel request by both email and fax. I received an email 
confirmation (with the actual confirmation as a fax attachment) this 
evening - less than 12 hours after retransmit.

I suggest any of you who have not heard back yet time out and retransmit.

There may have been a burst loss in the day or two following registration 
opening.

Thanks to all who responded with both positive ack and no response data.

Dave.

Re: Has anybody heard back from the Hotel in Seoul?

[Gargi Nalawade]

With me it was reverse. I reserved it online and got back a confirmation 
through fax.

-Gargi

Melinda Shore wrote:
On Monday, January 5, 2004, at 03:41 PM, Adam Roach wrote:

I sent in an e-mail the day of, and haven't heard back, either.
This sounds like a systemic problem.


I faxed my reservation request in the day after and received a confirmation
via email on the 26th.  Perhaps they've acked faxed requests and not email
requests or there's some other pattern.
Melinda

Re: Has anybody heard back from the Hotel in Seoul?

[David Oran]

OK, I resent the email and will also fax again. I'll report back in a few 
dayts either way. Thanks to all who responded.

--On Monday, January 5, 2004 4:12 PM -0500 "Andrew G. Malis" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I both faxed and emailed the form and received a fax confirmation several
days later.  I don't know which one did the trick.  I suspect the fax,
since I was faxed a reply.
Cheers,
Andy
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At 1/5/2004 02:52 PM -0500, David R. Oran wrote:
I sent in my reservation request the day after registration opened and I
have heard nothing back at all.
Have others similarly gotten no response, or is it likely my room
request  got dropped and I need to retransmit?
(Probably better to reply to me rather than the list unless people
suspect  we have a generic problem).
Dave Oran

Re: Has anybody heard back from the Hotel in Seoul?

[Scott Bradner]

my request was a faxed on and I have not heard back

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On Monday, January 5, 2004, at 03:41 PM, Adam Roach wrote:
> I sent in an e-mail the day of, and haven't heard back, either.
> This sounds like a systemic problem.

I faxed my reservation request in the day after and received a 
confirmation
via email on the 26th.  Perhaps they've acked faxed requests and not 
email
requests or there's some other pattern.

Melinda

Re: Has anybody heard back from the Hotel in Seoul?

[Paul Hoffman / IMC]

At 2:39 PM -0600 1/5/04, Pete Resnick wrote:
I got no response (other than an initial e-mail telling me I filled 
out part of the form incorrectly, which I answered by e-mail). After 
hearing nothing, I called them and got a confirmation number. 
Perhaps it is a NACK rather than an ACK protocol?
Not to worry everyone, but I got an ACK via FAX a few days after I 
faxed them my reservation.

--Paul Hoffman, Director
--Internet Mail Consortium

Re: Has anybody heard back from the Hotel in Seoul?

[Melinda Shore]

On Monday, January 5, 2004, at 03:41 PM, Adam Roach wrote:
I sent in an e-mail the day of, and haven't heard back, either.
This sounds like a systemic problem.
I faxed my reservation request in the day after and received a 
confirmation
via email on the 26th.  Perhaps they've acked faxed requests and not 
email
requests or there's some other pattern.

Melinda

RE: Has anybody heard back from the Hotel in Seoul?

[Adam Roach]

I sent in an e-mail the day of, and haven't heard back, either.
This sounds like a systemic problem.

/a

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> Have others similarly gotten no response, or is it likely my 
> room request=20
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> Dave Oran
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> David R. Oran
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Re: Has anybody heard back from the Hotel in Seoul?

[Pete Resnick]

On 1/5/04 at 2:52 PM -0500, David R. Oran wrote:

Have others similarly gotten no response, or is it likely my room 
request got dropped and I need to retransmit?
I got no response (other than an initial e-mail telling me I filled 
out part of the form incorrectly, which I answered by e-mail). After 
hearing nothing, I called them and got a confirmation number. Perhaps 
it is a NACK rather than an ACK protocol?

pr
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Pete Resnick 
QUALCOMM Incorporated - Direct phone: (858)651-4478, Fax: (858)651-1102

Re: Has anybody heard back from the Hotel in Seoul?

[Scott Bradner]

I have not heard


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I sent in my reservation request the day after registration opened and I=20
have heard nothing back at all.

Have others similarly gotten no response, or is it likely my room request=20
got dropped and I need to retransmit?

(Probably better to reply to me rather than the list unless people suspect=20
we have a generic problem).

Dave Oran


David R. Oran
Cisco Systems
7 Ladyslipper Lane
Acton, MA 01720
Office: +1 978 264 2048
VoIP: +1 408 571 4576
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Has anybody heard back from the Hotel in Seoul?

[David R. Oran]

I sent in my reservation request the day after registration opened and I 
have heard nothing back at all.

Have others similarly gotten no response, or is it likely my room request 
got dropped and I need to retransmit?

(Probably better to reply to me rather than the list unless people suspect 
we have a generic problem).

Dave Oran


David R. Oran
Cisco Systems
7 Ladyslipper Lane
Acton, MA 01720
Office: +1 978 264 2048
VoIP: +1 408 571 4576
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Re: hish email

[Mark Smith]

On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:28:46 -0500
"Peter Hunter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi...
> 
>  
> 
> Congratulations on your perspicacity. I too was suspicious of
> this VISA email and immediately went phishing on Google until I
> saw your email. There must be thousands who were taken in by
> this despicable ruse.
> 
>

Thanks, although I had to look up "perspicacity" :-), which,
according to the Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary, means 

"the ability to understand things quickly and make accurate
judgments"

Regards,
Mark.

  
> 
> Pete Hunter
> 
> 

Re: [isdf] Re: www.internetforce.org

[Mark Smith]

On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 07:53:04 -0500
> 
> In such context, a more participative behaviour should be
> welcome. Elits should help and educate rather than keeping the
> steering so firmly. RFC aren't they meaning "Request For
> Comments" ? Why did I never find the button "add your comment",
> yet, on any of them ?

Because that is not how they are updated.

The RFC faq would a place to seek your ansers.

http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfcfaq.html

Regards,
Mark.

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le Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 02:19:33PM + par Paul Robinson :
> Franck Martin wrote:
> 
> >Who are we to recommend things as Mike Todd suggests?
> >
> End-users. We're end-users of the Internet. Everybody who uses it should 
> be entitled to join any body that determines it's future, and any body 
> that has influence that is free to join therefore has the right to 
> recommend actions for it's future. Think of it as an abstract form of 
> democracy. I live in the UK and Paliament has every right to pass laws 
> because I voted them into that position, and likewise if I want to 
> become a politician I can do so and pass my own laws... Same thing here, 
> except you actually need a clue to participate in IETF rather than just 
> look good kissing babies.


- I have to say something there. 

No internet user is an end-user very long. The broadcast era of massmedia 
is still in people habits but it's from the last century and there is no 
technical reason anymore to limit the decisionnal/informational processes 
to an elit of either good-looking babes either wise diplomed experts.

About politician, I don't vote them because they vote their own laws,
not mine. I don't understand how it would be a solution if I switch
and become politician to vote my own laws. Politics is very cool for
peace in material world because it's a convention to make everybody to 
say 'yes' before knowing what will be decided (notice that the 'no' 
alternative usually requires unusual creative abilities or direct 
exclusion, with various degrees of subtility in the way to exclude).

I think that online it's different. People decide by 'not saying no', as
it's rather pointless to say 'yes' when you are in a consensual situation 
with thousand, millions or more of people it would be very noisy. It's
working like that for more than 30 years now and I think we could learn
from it.

Every standard proposed can be of any quality, if nobody apply them
it's only intellectual research with no societal impact. I take as 
example the ipv6 implementation that we wonder "why we don't have it 
yet" for years, the story of the HTML specifications and the respect
of it.

In such context, a more participative behaviour should be welcome. Elits 
should help and educate rather than keeping the steering so firmly.
RFC aren't they meaning "Request For Comments" ? Why did I never find 
the button "add your comment", yet, on any of them ?


my $cents = 2;
mose