Re: IETF66 - Recommendations for travel from airport to hotels?
Minor clarification in case your ethics are troubling you... Elwyn Davies wrote: Airport shuttles: Unfortunately the Delta doesn't seem to qualify for a free shuttle. The nearest is probably the Queen Elizabeth (900 boulevard Rene-levesque Ouest) which is about 0.25 mile from the Delta.. This doesn't involve taking a second 'free' shuttle as the main, paid-for, shuttle stops here on the way to the central bus station. Alternatives include riding to the central bus station and taking the metro (Orange Line, direction Cote Vertu) three stops from the metro station at Berri-UQAM (under the bus station) to Square Victoria - this station has an exit either in or right in front of the Delta. (Place D'Armes will be better for the hotels closer to the Palais des Congres) Shuttles run approx every 25-35 minutes and are scheduled to take about 40 minutes. BTW for the seriously lazy, the Palais des Congres is on top of the Place D'Armes metro stop which is one stop back towards the central bus station from Square Victoria There are regional commuter trains out to Dorval but the service is seriously sparse at the weekend and just as bad outside of early morning inbound and evening rush hour outbound. Forget it. Fares: Airport shuttle - one way 13 CAD, return 22.75 CAD Metro: per trip any distance (I assume): 2.50 CAD single trip, 11.50 CAD for a six trip card, one day and three day tourist passes available. Tickets sold at stations or on buses (on buses exact change only) Handy links: Airport shuttle bus: http://www.autobus.qc.ca/anglais/aeroportuaire_an.html Useful handily zoomable map of the centre of Montreal (probably the best online city map I have ever seen!): http://www.stcum.qc.ca/English/info/centre-ville2006.pdf The whole city map is much bigger but equally good: http://www.stcum.qc.ca/English/info/reseau2006.pdf Metro map: http://www.stcum.qc.ca/English/metro/a-mapmet.htm - click on any station for local info including a large scale map with station entrance/exit points marked. Bus/metro fares: http://www.stcum.qc.ca/English/info/a-tarif.htm Montreal transport home page: http://www.stcum.qc.ca/English/a-somm.htm Regards, Elwyn ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: IETF66 - Recommendations for travel from airport to hotels?
The IAD has just confirmed to me that this is in our contract - if you booked in the IETF block, please insist with the hotel. Brian Henrik Levkowetz wrote: on 2006-07-06 00:57 Elwyn Davies said the following: Allegedly, if you have a booking in the IETF block, the Internet connection is included for free. I've arrived and checked into the Delta. The internet for the IETF-block of rooms and dates is free, but this is not automatically the case for additional days outside the June 7 -- June 15 period. I asked to have internet included also for the additional days, and got it. Henrik /Elwyn At the Delta Hotel there is no wireless in my room. There is a wired connection for CDN$9.95 per 24 hours which has a reasonable bandwidth at the current load. Jeffrey Altman ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: IETF IPv6 platform configuration
My recent experiences with ftp.ietf.org: EPSV doesn't work - it gives a port which it then isn't listening on (or, more likely since we get no response at all, a firewall blocks connections to): ftp ls --- EPSV 229 Entering Extended Passive Mode (|||42065|) ftp: connect for data channel: Operation timed out [simultaneously in another window] compost% telnet ftp.ietf.org 42065 Trying 156.154.16.149... telnet: connect to address 156.154.16.149: Operation timed out EPRT for IPv4 doesn't work - it returns an error Bad EPRT protocol. --- EPRT |1|192.20.225.40|56318| 500 Bad EPRT protocol. Apparently, the FTP server doesn't want to allow EPRT with IPv4. (1 is IPv4). It's not using the 522 I don't support that protocol error code, but is also saying that it doesn't support that protocol. PORT doesn't work - it returns an immediate error Failed to establish connection. --- PORT 192,20,225,40,219,254 200 PORT command successful. Consider using PASV. --- LIST 425 Failed to establish connection. tcpdump shows that it didn't send any packets trying to establish a connection to 192.20.225.40 and the 425 error comes too quickly to have tried. It looks like 3 out of 4 data channel establishment mechanisms are broken with this FTP server software and configuration for IPv4. I didn't test with IPv6. Bill ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
RE: IETF IPv6 platform configuration
We are looking into this and will post a response as soon as we have some more information. As always, thanks for the notification!! Jon Lindberg NSS -Original Message- From: Bill Fenner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:46 AM To: Ken Raeburn Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ietf Mailing List Subject: Re: IETF IPv6 platform configuration My recent experiences with ftp.ietf.org: EPSV doesn't work - it gives a port which it then isn't listening on (or, more likely since we get no response at all, a firewall blocks connections to): ftp ls --- EPSV 229 Entering Extended Passive Mode (|||42065|) ftp: connect for data channel: Operation timed out [simultaneously in another window] compost% telnet ftp.ietf.org 42065 Trying 156.154.16.149... telnet: connect to address 156.154.16.149: Operation timed out EPRT for IPv4 doesn't work - it returns an error Bad EPRT protocol. --- EPRT |1|192.20.225.40|56318| 500 Bad EPRT protocol. Apparently, the FTP server doesn't want to allow EPRT with IPv4. (1 is IPv4). It's not using the 522 I don't support that protocol error code, but is also saying that it doesn't support that protocol. PORT doesn't work - it returns an immediate error Failed to establish connection. --- PORT 192,20,225,40,219,254 200 PORT command successful. Consider using PASV. --- LIST 425 Failed to establish connection. tcpdump shows that it didn't send any packets trying to establish a connection to 192.20.225.40 and the 425 error comes too quickly to have tried. It looks like 3 out of 4 data channel establishment mechanisms are broken with this FTP server software and configuration for IPv4. I didn't test with IPv6. Bill ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: IETF IPv6 platform configuration
On Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:45:52 AM -0400 Bill Fenner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like 3 out of 4 data channel establishment mechanisms are broken with this FTP server software and configuration for IPv4. I didn't test with IPv6. I did, inadvertently. PASV worked, as did at least one of PORT and EPSV. I didn't try EPRT. My guess is that there's some _thing_ in the IPv4 path that is breaking things because it doesn't like PORT and doesn't support the extended modes, either because it's too old or too broken. This is one of the reasons for both the layered network model and the end-to-end principle -- avoiding the need for devices in the middle of the network to understand application protocols not only makes it easier to deploy new applications, but also reduces the chances that some device you have no control over will break the applications you already have. -- Jeffrey T. Hutzelman (N3NHS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sr. Research Systems Programmer School of Computer Science - Research Computing Facility Carnegie Mellon University - Pittsburgh, PA ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: IETF IPv6 platform configuration
Just for completeness, I configured 6to4 to get IPv6 working. Both EPSV and EPRT work with IPv6. ftp ls --- EPSV 229 Entering Extended Passive Mode (|||10283|) --- LIST 150 Here comes the directory listing. drwxrwxr-x 265 6060 48 8192 May 05 15:12 concluded-wg-ietf-mail-archive .. and ftp ls --- EPRT |2|2002:c014:e128::1|56420| 200 EPRT command successful. Consider using EPSV. --- LIST 150 Here comes the directory listing. drwxrwxr-x 265 6060 48 8192 May 05 15:12 concluded-wg-ietf-mail-archive .. Bill ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf