Re: IETF 68 69 Locations (a)

[JORDI PALET MARTINEZ]

Very nice job. Congratulations !

I hope soon we can have in our roadmap a venue in Latin America also. May be
in a couple of years we can then have one in Africa too :-)

Regards,
Jordi




 De: IETF Administrative Director [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Responder a: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Fecha: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:02:41 -0400
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 Asunto: IETF 68  69 Locations (a)
 
 I am pleased to announce the hotel meeting sites for IETF 68 in Prague and
 IETF 69 in Chicago, as well as a major contract with an international
 hotel chain.
 
 IETF 68 is being held 18 - 23 March 2007 at the Hilton Prague.  This is a
 one roof venue, that is, the meeting is at the hotel with a room block
 of 500 rooms. 
 
 IETF 69 is being held at the Palmer House Hilton in Chicago from July 22
 - 27. This is also a one roof meeting with ample meeting space and a
 room block of 1000 rooms.
 
 More information and links for reservation purposes can be located at:
 http://www3.ietf.org/meetings/meetings.html
 
 The foregoing probably tipped you off that the contract is between the
 Hilton Hotels Corporation and the Internet Society, on behalf of the IETF.
 
 
 This 5 year, multi-event contract provides many benefits to the IETF
 including favorable guest rates for the market, complimentary Internet,
 reduced event costs, reduced contracting risk, expedited contracting and
 more.  
 
 Moreover, the contract does not prevent the IETF from booking meetings
 with other hotel chains.
 
 I want to thank the NeuStar Secretariat team for their initiative in
 pursuing this agreement, as well as their skill in negotiating it.  It is
 a first of its kind with the Hilton chain worldwide, and represents a
 giant step forward in the IETF's commitment to planning meetings 18 to 24
 months in advance and undertaking measures that will reduce costs, while
 providing additional value for the meetings and the participants.
 
 As a result of this contract we are already considering venues in 2008
 and beyond; and I expect we will be executing contracts for them very
 quickly over the next six months.
 
 If your company has ever considered being a Host and has a particular
 location in mind, now is the time to contact us.   The meeting calendar
 through 2010 with provisional regional locations can be found here:
 http://www3.ietf.org/meetings/0mtg-sites.txt
 
 A Host brings a certain gravitational pull to a particular location and
 we are interested in working with you to locate an available, qualified
 venue and make that happen.  By the way, if you'd like to Host and don't
 have a location in mind -- we have some for you and we want to hear from
 you too.
 
 My thanks also to the Internet Society, our organizational home.  We
 can't do this without their assistance and support- thanks.
 
 Ray Pelletier
 IAD
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please unsubscribe me from this forumJORDI PALET MARTINEZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Very nice job. Congratulations !I hope soon we can have in our roadmap a venue in Latin America also. May bein a couple of years we can then have one in Africa too :-)Regards,Jordi De: IETF Administrative Director <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Responder a: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fecha: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:02:41 -0400 Para: IETF Announcement list  Asunto: IETF 68  69 Locations (a)  I am pleased to announce the hotel meeting sites for IETF 68 in Prague and IETF 69 in Chicago, as well as a major contract with an international hotel chain.  IETF 68 is being held 18 - 23 March 2007 at the Hilton Prague. This
 is a "one roof" venue, that is, the meeting is at the hotel with a room block of 500 rooms.   IETF 69 is being held at the Palmer House Hilton in Chicago from July 22 - 27. This is also a "one roof" meeting with ample meeting space and a room block of 1000 rooms.  More information and links for reservation purposes can be located at: http://www3.ietf.org/meetings/meetings.html  The foregoing probably tipped you off that the contract is between the Hilton Hotels Corporation and the Internet Society, on behalf of the IETF.   This 5 year, multi-event contract provides many benefits to the IETF including favorable guest rates for the market, complimentary Internet, reduced event costs, reduced contracting risk, expedited contracting and more.   Moreover, the contract does not prevent the IETF from booking
 meetings with other hotel chains.  I want to thank the NeuStar Secretariat team for their initiative in pursuing this agreement, as well as their skill in negotiating it. It is a first of its kind with the Hilton chain worldwide, and represents a giant step forward in the IETF's commitment to planning meetings 18 to 24 months in advance and undertaking measures that will reduce costs, while providing additional value for the meetings and the participants.  As a result of this contract we are already considering venues in 2008 and beyond; and I expect we will be executing contracts for them very quickly over the next six months.  If your company has ever considered being a Host and has a particular location in mind, now is the time to contact us. The meeting calendar through 2010 with provisional regional locations can be found here:
 http://www3.ietf.org/meetings/0mtg-sites.txt  A Host brings a certain gravitational pull to a particular location and we are interested in working with you to locate an available, qualified venue and make that happen. By the way, if you'd like to Host and don't have a location in mind -- we have some for you and we want to hear from you too.  My thanks also to the Internet Society, our organizational home. We can't do this without their assistance and support- thanks.  Ray Pelletier IAD [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ___ IETF-Announce mailing list IETF-Announce@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce**The IPv6 Portal: http://www.ipv6tf.orgBye 6Bone. Hi, IPv6 !http://www.ipv6day.orgThis electronic
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Proceeding CDs

[IETF Administrative Director]

The IAOC is preparing the 2007 budget and would like feedback on whether
or not to continue producing the IETF meeting CDs of the Proceedings.

It has been suggested as a way of employing limited Secretariat labor
more productively that the IAOC discontinue production of the Proceedings
on CDs and, instead, make the files available collectively on the web site
for each meeting in a zip file for downloading.  

Is there strong rationale for maintaining production of the CDs?

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IETF 68 69 Locations (lst)

[IETF Administrative Director]

I am pleased to announce the hotel meeting sites for IETF 68 in Prague and
IETF 69 in Chicago, as well as a major contract with an international
hotel chain.

IETF 68 is being held 18 - 23 March 2007 at the Hilton Prague.  This is a
one roof venue, that is, the meeting is at the hotel with a room block
of 500 rooms. 

IETF 69 is being held at the Palmer House Hilton in Chicago from July 22
- 27. This is also a one roof meeting with ample meeting space and a
room block of 1000 rooms.

More information and links for reservation purposes can be located at:
http://www3.ietf.org/meetings/meetings.html

The foregoing probably tipped you off that the contract is between the
Hilton Hotels Corporation and the Internet Society, on behalf of the IETF.


This 5 year, multi-event contract provides many benefits to the IETF
including favorable guest rates for the market, complimentary Internet,
reduced event costs, reduced contracting risk, expedited contracting and
more.  

Moreover, the contract does not prevent the IETF from booking meetings
with other hotel chains.

I want to thank the NeuStar Secretariat team for their initiative in
pursuing this agreement, as well as their skill in negotiating it.  It is
a first of its kind with the Hilton chain worldwide, and represents a
giant step forward in the IETF's commitment to planning meetings 18 to 24
months in advance and undertaking measures that will reduce costs, while
providing additional value for the meetings and the participants.

As a result of this contract we are already considering venues in 2008
and beyond; and I expect we will be executing contracts for them very
quickly over the next six months.  

If your company has ever considered being a Host and has a particular
location in mind, now is the time to contact us.   The meeting calendar
through 2010 with provisional regional locations can be found here: 
http://www3.ietf.org/meetings/0mtg-sites.txt  

A Host brings a certain gravitational pull to a particular location and
we are interested in working with you to locate an available, qualified
venue and make that happen.  By the way, if you'd like to Host and don't
have a location in mind -- we have some for you and we want to hear from
you too.

My thanks also to the Internet Society, our organizational home.  We
can't do this without their assistance and support - thanks.

Ray Pelletier
IAD
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Re: As Promised, an attempt at 2026bis

[Douglas Otis]

On Oct 3, 2006, at 4:00 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:

Brian Carpenter has written draft-carpenter-rfc2026- 
critique-02.txt which does exactly that, and he has repeatedly  
solicited comments on it.  If you think that it would be helpful  
to have it published as an informational RFC before undertaking to  
make normative changes to our standards procedures, please say so.


Thanks for the plug, Mike :-)

Quite seriously - am I to conclude from the absence of comments on  
that draft that everyone agrees that it correctly describes current  
practice? If so, I'll look for an AD to sponsor it.


Please do.

-Doug

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Re: Proceeding CDs

[Frank Ellermann]

IETF Administrative Director wrote:
 
 Is there strong rationale for maintaining production of the CDs?

No opinion - but on a related issue:  Some slide shows are very
interesting, and the HTML output of Powerpoint is *_MUCH_* better
than huge PDFs.

Frank



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Re: Proceeding CDs

[shogunx]

On Tue, 3 Oct 2006, IETF Administrative Director wrote:

 The IAOC is preparing the 2007 budget and would like feedback on whether
 or not to continue producing the IETF meeting CDs of the Proceedings.

 It has been suggested as a way of employing limited Secretariat labor
 more productively that the IAOC discontinue production of the Proceedings
 on CDs and, instead, make the files available collectively on the web site
 for each meeting in a zip file for downloading.

If you do so, make sure there is at least a tar.gz also.


 Is there strong rationale for maintaining production of the CDs?

 Ray Pelletier
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Re: Proceeding CDs

[Marshall Eubanks]

Does anyone know of
any libraries that attempt to acquire / archive a complete set of  
IETF proceedings ?


They might not read this list and should be contacted directly in my  
opinion.


Regards
Marshall

On Oct 6, 2006, at 1:01 PM, shogunx wrote:


On Tue, 3 Oct 2006, IETF Administrative Director wrote:

The IAOC is preparing the 2007 budget and would like feedback on  
whether

or not to continue producing the IETF meeting CDs of the Proceedings.

It has been suggested as a way of employing limited Secretariat labor
more productively that the IAOC discontinue production of the  
Proceedings
on CDs and, instead, make the files available collectively on the  
web site

for each meeting in a zip file for downloading.


If you do so, make sure there is at least a tar.gz also.



Is there strong rationale for maintaining production of the CDs?

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Re: Proceeding CDs

[Andy Bierman]

IETF Administrative Director wrote:

The IAOC is preparing the 2007 budget and would like feedback on whether
or not to continue producing the IETF meeting CDs of the Proceedings.

It has been suggested as a way of employing limited Secretariat labor
more productively that the IAOC discontinue production of the Proceedings
on CDs and, instead, make the files available collectively on the web site
for each meeting in a zip file for downloading.  


Is there strong rationale for maintaining production of the CDs?



No.
IMO, free online retrieval of IETF proceedings is sufficient.
Spend the time and money on something more important.

My 2 cents on data format:

If I really wanted to have a CD of the proceedings,
then I would want to retrieve a .iso file from the archive.

(Moving from the Print Era to the Electronic Age is hard...
I just recycled my collection of paper IETF proceedings a year ago.
I bet some of you still have every one!)



Ray Pelletier
IAD


Andy

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Re: Proceeding CDs

[Michael C. StJohns]

At 01:57 PM 10/6/2006, Andy Bierman wrote:

If I really wanted to have a CD of the proceedings,
then I would want to retrieve a .iso file from the archive.


Actually, I *like* this option a lot.

I don't see any reason to continue to produce the CDs, but I do see a 
need for a permanent archival form and having an ISO I could download 
and burn (or mount for that matter) makes a lot of sense.


Mike


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RE: Proceeding CDs

[Gray, Eric]

It makes sense now, but will it make sense in 10 years?

With today's DVD technology, is it completely unlikely 
that ISO CD formats may not be supported by then?  Is it
not possible that CDs will go the way of 8-track tapes,
beta-max, and 3.25  floppy and 100 Mega-byte Zip drives?

I can store more data on a memory stick than I can on a 
CD.  In 10 years, I expect I'll be able to store as much
as 20 times the data of a CD on a stick - and I don't 
think the stick uses the ISO format.

It would be a shame to have to support an ISO format
converter in 10 years so that people could access the
older IETF documents and proceedings...

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Eric 

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-- If I really wanted to have a CD of the proceedings,
-- then I would want to retrieve a .iso file from the archive.
-- 
-- Actually, I *like* this option a lot.
-- 
-- I don't see any reason to continue to produce the CDs, but 
-- I do see a 
-- need for a permanent archival form and having an ISO I 
-- could download 
-- and burn (or mount for that matter) makes a lot of sense.
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Re: Proceeding CDs

[David W. Hankins]

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   Remove that, and the question might be asked? What do we get for
   our money?  more often.

Are you suggesting that proceeding CD's are actually a valid answer
to this question, or that people should merely be convinced to ask
this question less frequently by any means available other than
actually providing answers?

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Updated charter and strengthened leadership for EDU team

[Brian Carpenter]

The charter of the EDU team has been updated; please see
http://edu.ietf.org/

I'm glad to welcome Margaret Wasserman as co-leader of the team
with Avri Doria.

  Brian Carpenter
  General Area Director

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