RE: Diversity of IETF Leadership

2013-03-11 Thread Gorsic, Bonnie L
This is a great suggestion. 

Bonnie L. Gorsic


-Original Message-
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Arturo 
Servin
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:43 AM
To: ietf@ietf.org
Subject: Re: Diversity of IETF Leadership

Hi,

I have been reading the comments in the list and although I am not 
making a specific reply to any message I would like to make some comments.

So far I have read I agree we need some diversity or I agree that 
more diversity is better. Also I have read Please no quotas, do not let the 
nomcom do this or that.

My opinion is that we agree we have a situation that we should improve, 
but also we shouldn't focus on the nomcom process, the problem is not about how 
we select people (it may help but it is not the root problem).
The problem is to bring new people (younger people, women, from more countries, 
different languages, etc.) to write RFCs, to participate/be interested in the 
IETF and how we involve/prepare these people to become our leaders and not just 
participants. If we do that, then we will have more diversity in our leadership.


Best wishes,
as

On 10/03/2013 06:22, IETF Diversity wrote:
 The letter below was sent to the IESG, the IAB, the IAOC and the ISOC 
 Board this morning, in an attempt to open a discussion of how to 
 increase the diversity of the IETF Leadership.  We are sharing the 
 letter here to encourage community discussion of this important topic.
 
 If you support this letter and would like to be added as a signatory, 
 please send e-mail to ietf.divers...@gmail.com 
 mailto:ietf.divers...@gmail.com, and your name will be added to the 
 list of signatures.
 
 ---
 
 ** An Open Letter to the IESG, the IAB, the IAOC and the ISOC Board **
 
 Dear Members of the IETF Leadership,
 
 We would like to call your attention to an issue that weakens the 
 IETF's decision-making process and calls into question the legitimacy 
 of the IETF as an International Standards Development
 Organization: the lack of diversity of the IETF leadership.
 
 In addition to the moral and social issues involved, diversity of 
 leadership across several axes (race, geographic location, gender and 
 corporate affiliation) is important for three practical reasons:
 
 - It is a well-established fact that diverse groups are smarter
   and make better decisions than less-diverse groups. 
 
 - Lack of diversity in our leadership becomes a self-perpetuating
   problem, because people who are not represented in the IETF
   leadership are less likely to dedicate their time and effort to
   the IETF.
 
 - The lack of diversity in the IETF leadership undermines our
   credibility and challenges our legitimacy as an International
   Standards Development Organization.
 
 Unfortunately, despite a substantial increase in the number of IETF 
 leadership positions (from 25 to 32) and increasingly diverse 
 attendance at IETF meetings, the diversity of the IETF leadership has 
 not improved.  In fact, it seems to have dropped significantly over 
 the past ten years.
 
 For example, ten years ago, in February of 2003, there were 25 members 
 of the IETF leadership (12 IAB members and 13 IESG members).  Of those
 25 members, there was one member of non-European descent, there was 
 one member from a country outside of North America or Europe, and 
 there were four women.  There were 23 companies represented in the 
 IETF leadership (out of a total of 25 seats).
 
 In February of 2013, there were 32 members of the IETF leadership
 (12 IAB members, 15 IESG members and 5 IAOC members).  Of those 32 
 members, there was one member of non-European descent, there were no 
 members from countries outside of North America or Europe, and there 
 was only one woman.  There were only 19 companies represented (out of 
 a total of 32 seats).
 
 It is important to the continued relevance and success of the IETF 
 that we address this issue and eliminate whatever factors are 
 contributing to the lack of diversity in our leadership.  We believe 
 that this is an important and urgent issue that requires your 
 immediate attention.
 
 There are several steps that could be taken, in the short-term within 
 our existing BCPs, to address this problem:
 
  - Each of the IETF leadership bodies (the IESG, IAB and IAOC)
could update the qualifications that they submit to the
Nominations Committee (through the IAD) to make it clear that
the Nominations Committee should actively seek to increase the
diversity of that body in terms of race, geographic location,
gender and corporate affiliation.
 
  - Each of the confirming bodies (the ISOC Board for the IAB, the
IAB for the IESG, and the IESG for the IAOC) could make a
public statement at the beginning of each year's nominations
process that they will not confirm a slate unless it
contributes to 

RE: AI_SECURE_CANONNAME, AI_CANONNAME_SEARCH_* (Re: getaddrinfo()and searching)

2007-10-02 Thread Gorsic, Bonnie L
It seems that policy should be scenario / use case / mission dependent,
and consequently apply to a number of applications. (And thus be
application independent). 


Bonnie L. Gorsic
Technical Fellow
SoS Architecture  Engineering
714-762-4906 (desk)


-Original Message-
From: Keith Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 8:35 PM
To: Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino
Cc: ietf@ietf.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: AI_SECURE_CANONNAME, AI_CANONNAME_SEARCH_* (Re:
getaddrinfo()and searching)

Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino wrote:
 What a timely thread.

 I've recently concluded that we need an extension to getaddrinfo() 
 along these lines, but I'm looking for somewhat tighter and more 
 generic semantics.

 My proposal is to add an AI_SECURE_CANONNAME flag with the following
 semantics:
 

   do not try to implement policy into applications.  you will end
up
   forced to (?) rewrite every existing applications.
   
perhaps, but having the policy be application-independent doesn't make
sense either.


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