Hello,

I am currently involved in a project to create an internet-draft for a
domain/key based system allowing mail domains to be validated using rsa
keys, distributed using the DNS system, with minimal modification to
existing infrastructure. Does a specification for such a system already
exist? I have many ideas for extentions to the existing SMTP protocol, as
well as plans for a derivative protocol incorporating this key-based
system as a more secure and verifiable method of exchanging mail. If
anyone is interested, I would appreciate being contacted off-list to
discuss the possible formation of a working group to discuss such ideas.

Regards,
James Denness

On Wed, 26 May 2004, Vernon Schryver wrote:

> Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 15:00:00 -0600 (MDT)
> From: Vernon Schryver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: spoofing email addresses
>
> > From: Andrew Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > On May 24, 2004, at 1:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > In fact, there isn't any sane way to detect "inconsistent" header
> > > information
> > > without external hints - this is the reason why there's the SPF
> > > proposal, the
> > > Yahoo domain-keys proposal, and Microsoft's proposal.
> >
> > And MARID.
>
> I don't see any of those proposals and their competitors as sane.
> Some of them, such as SPF, do not even meet their own design goals
> as stated informally by their advocates.  Others such as domain-keys
> do not seem to do anything that is not already done by SMTP-TLS, despite
> the goals in the I-D that seem to be closer to S/MIME.  None of them
> have much to do with spam, but only with a currently popular mode of
> attack used by spammers.  None have any hope of affecting even that
> particular attack mode for years, because none can have any significant
> effect until deployed on most SMTP clients.  Many seem to be based on
> insufficient familiarity with the nature of SMTP (e.g. SPF's incredible
> source-routing scheme) and the urge to Do Something Now regardless of
> actual results.
>
>
> Vernon Schryver    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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