Re: Recording discussion
Perhaps requiring less effort and being just as useful would be having volunteers dictate the written narrative minutes and make them available as OGG or MP3? On 7/14/05, Sam Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Simon" == Simon Josefsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Simon> Brian E Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> We propose that, for an initial period of 6 months, a member of > >> the community will be added to regular IESG meetings as a > >> "recording secretary" who will write narrative minutes of the > >> discussions, which will be posted publicly after IESG review > >> for accuracy. > > Simon> Sounds useful to me. How about actually recording the > Simon> discussion too? And publishing them as OGG or MP3. > Simon> Editing out personnel discussion would still be possible. > Simon> All for the sake of transparency and accountability. > > Simon> Regards, Simon > I think doing this on a regular basis would be too time consuming to > edit. However I think it would actually be useful to the community, > to those considering serving on the IESG etc to record one telechat a > year or so and edit out the confidential bits. I certainly know I had > no idea what to expect when I called into my first telechat. > > --Sam > > > ___ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: A proposed experiment in narrative minutes of IESG meetings
I think that this is a great idea, Brian. Further insight into the decision making process of the IESG, I believe, will benefit everyone involved. On 7/14/05, Brian E Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The IESG is interested in carrrying out an experiment to publish > narrative minutes for IESG meetings as well as the regular minutes > of decisions taken. > > Currently the IESG minutes are a formal record of decisions taken > and (like the agenda) are generated semi-automatically by the > secretariat. This is a well-oiled process that we don't want to > disturb. However, the community clearly would like more information > about the way the IESG reaches its decisions, beyond the record > of comments on each document that is stored in the I-D tracker. > > We propose that, for an initial period of 6 months, a member of > the community will be added to regular IESG meetings as a "recording > secretary" who will write narrative minutes of the discussions, > which will be posted publicly after IESG review for accuracy. > (As always, personnel discussions will need to remain private > or be minuted with great care.) > > The IESG welcomes comments on this proposal, to iesg@ietf.org > or ietf@ietf.org as appropriate. If the community seems to be > in favour of this experiment, we will soon call for volunteers > and pick one person to act for the initial six months. After > six months, we will ask the community whether the results > justify continuing the effort. The main question will be whether > the community is getting useful extra information. > > (Thanks to Spencer Dawkins for triggering this idea.) > > Brian for the IESG > > > > > > > ___ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Question about Obsoleted vs. Historic
I would assume historical reference. On 7/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering if someone could help me out on this one. I was doing a bit > of analysis on the current RFC list, and noticed that some Draft Standard > documents are obsoleted. For example: > > 954 NICNAME/WHOIS. K. Harrenstien, M.K. Stahl, E.J. Feinler. > Oct-01-1985. (Format: TXT=7397 bytes) (Obsoletes RFC0812) (Obsoleted > by RFC3912) (Status: DRAFT STANDARD) > > This really made me scratch my head. One would imagine if a protocol is > obsoleted > by another, it would not be listed as a Draft Standard any longer. > > What is the reason for continuing to list something obsolete as a Draft > Standard? > > John > > ___ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
