Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages
While these notices have very little to no legal weight whatsoever, I firmly believe that allowing their presence on our mailing list invites frivolous lawsuits whose purpose is to cost the IETF money in the case that an individual does not like what we are doing. One does not need to look particularly hard to find examples of ridiculous cases the plaintiff would never win where the defendant chose to simply buy the privilege of making it go away without taking on the costs and effort of actually fighting it in court, no matter how certain the victory. ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages
They don't have legal value, period. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 14, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Alessandro Vesely ves...@tana.it wrote: On 14/Jul/11 03:48, John Levine wrote: Yes, and perhaps disclaimers/confidentiality notices should be standardized with their own MIME type to make automatic processing easier so receivers of this kind of notice (mailing-list or other) can respect the wishes of the sender. That respect would of course be demonstrated by rejecting or discarding the mail unread, to avoid any possibility that it could fall into the wrong hands. Yes, with the possible exception of recipients deploying a Treacherous Computing environment that includes checks against forwarding or replying with non fair use quotations of confidential messages. PS: Perhaps I should propose a revised RFC 5617 adding dkim=confidential. One can sign the Sensitivity header field defined by RFC 2156. It can have the values Personal / Private / Company-Confidential. However, I received some messages bearing a confidentiality notice but missing this field entirely. Even the TC system above could hardly cope with such inconsistent settings. Do notices still retain any legal value in such cases? ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
UN plans to take over our job!
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09/28/wsis_geneva/ This is not their place to be deciding as if they ever owned the Internet. They have no rights to the Internet, by the very nature of it's structure. ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Fwd: UN plans to take over our job!
-- Forwarded message --From: Will McAfee [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Sep 29, 2005 10:22 AM Subject: Re: UN plans to take over our job!To: Doo Timbir [EMAIL PROTECTED]Looking back, I guess I was talking like an idiot. I apologize, for this, was just outraged at this treatment of the Internet as something they owned. And also The Register is no tabloid. =/ On 9/29/05, Doo Timbir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally think that it is too late for any group to lay hold of the Internet. The right thing to do is to allow it to be[exist] the way it is period! Sincerely, Doo Timbir.Will McAfee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09/28/wsis_geneva/ This is not their place to be deciding as if they ever owned the Internet. They have no rights to the Internet, by the very nature of it's structure.___Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.orghttps://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Completely out of scope: Restaurant reccomendation
On 8/2/05, Olaf M. Kolkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday I had a very nice salad in this slightly overpriced restaurant down the road from the IETF venue. Its a Brasserie specialized in Fruit de Mere. I ordered Salade Italienne. Very nice indeed, until I hit a bug, covered in olive oil, that was enjoying the salad too. I am not a specialist in insects but I know cockroaches come in many different shapes and forms. The small animal covered in oil could have been a baby cockroach. I signaled the waiter and after several Oh-la-la's he offered me a new salad. I lost my appetite so I refused. So far nothing to complain about. But then came the bill. I was charged. Then I specifically asked if something could be done about that. And to be honest I'd settled for anything symbolic, free wine, free desert, espresso, anything. But the waiter could not be convinced. Hence my recommendation. Do not go to: Le Ternes Pereire 84, Avenue de Ternes 75017 Paris Actually pass by, look at the menu, and if the waiter tries to convince you to come in just mention the cockroach in the salad. http://www.bio.umass.edu/biology/kunkel/cockroach.html --Olaf PS. Somebody suggested that it would be nice to have a meeting Wiki for recommendations on restaurants, stories about pickpockets, and other non process and non technical cruft. ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf You should have refused to pay citing health concerns, and thretened to report the restaurant. Exactly what kind of conditions does the kitchen have that a baby cockroach would make it into the salad? And further, why would it be common enough that they would have to charge for these salads, or not be profitable? ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Uneccesary slowness.
I think the minimum time before a document can pass to another standards-track state is ridiculously long. If an rfc is huge, I can understand that. But to sweep that over all of them? A two-page proposed standard can take an absolutely ridiculous amount of time to pass through! I say we have variations based on how long the document is. ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: [IGOVAP]Re:another discussion about management of root server
It is my opinion that an organization independent of any other ineterests should be placed in charge of the root servers. This way, no one organization can claim ownership of the DNS roots. ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: iasa-bcp-01 - Open Issues - Separate bank accounts
While I agree that it is a question for lawyers, I think that are in the permanent posession, until it is decided that funds will be spent is a better way to put it. ___ Ietf mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
