Re: Alternative To IPv6

2011-04-02 Thread Turchanyi Geza
 and of course you will have a magic transition scenario as well, and
all the content providers will adapt within 3 months, without any problems
of load balancing what we have today

IF NOT, your announcement just will provoque more delay in transition to
IPv6, the only viable and urgent solution ahead of us.

Regards,

Géza

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 10:43 PM, J. C. Jones jaibudu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 Those associated with the IETF and those with interest in computer
 networking might be interested to know that a new, clean-slate network
 protocol stack, an alternative to the IPv4 and IPv6, is due out in 2012.
 This new protocol stack will provide the following features:


1. A generalized solution to *naming*, *numbering*, and *addressing 
 *problems,
where domain names and IP addresses have been given a sound, theoretical
basis, with particular emphasis on rethinking the nature of domain names
with respect to IP addresses. Well-known port numbers would become
unnecessary for many applications.
2. A generalized solution to the *mobility *problem, where networks of
networks may be mobile, with continuously optimal routing from source to
target and ultra-fast handover over multiple wireless technologies existing
within the same node that allows PDA's to easily be used as cell phones
while making and breaking of Wi-Fi links.
3. A generalized solution to the *multicast *problem, where a PDA might
serve as the root of a *1,000,000,000*-node multicast tree, and where
an application sourcing the multicast can be written by a programmer in one
afternoon whose possesses a near-minimum understanding of computer
networking.
4. A generalized solution to the *security *problem, where each feature
commonly provided by an underlying security framework [hiding, signing,
etc.] might be independently enabled or disabled without affecting the
operation of cooperative features.
5. A generalized solution to the *access control* problem, where
specifying access control parameters makes sense to technical neophytes,
where username/passwords are essentially non-existent, and where it is
plainly evident from the model that it is regular and persistent.
6. A gratuitous, parasitic framework that, if it were so chosen, would
allow for the *elimination of the majority of email spam* and similar
nuisances on the Internet.
7. A strictly* 99.8% portable* reference implementation for most
multi-threaded OS's, written in C++.
8. A network application *library *that presents *persistent primitives
of computer networking* [C++ classes].
9. *International support* for almost all of the world's languages, not
only for domain names, but for all textual processing under the purview of
the protocol stack. Specifically, almost equal weight will be given for
non-English languages as for English.
10. A total executable size of l*ess than 1MB* [without a GUI] for a *
full-featured* stack destined for small-footprint devices.
11. *Initial compatibility with IPv4* routing, where new, disruptive
applications may be created over the new protocol stack without requiring
changes to existing IPv4 routing. A full-break from IPv4 would require no
human intervention [renumbering] at the point of change-over, and after
change-over, said disruptive applications would continue to function,
unaware that change-over has occurred.
12. *Simplicity*. The new stack should be understandable in its
entirely by a single software engineer after 3 months of study.

 I will send out notices as the release date in 2012 approaches.

 Warm Regards,
 -JC

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Re: Alternative To IPv6

2011-04-02 Thread Noel Chiappa
' From: Turchanyi Geza turchanyi.g...@gmail.com

 IF NOT, your announcement just will provoque more delay in transition
 to IPv6

Well, he did send his email on April 1 :-)

 the only viable and urgent solution ahead of us.

Hey, it was April 2 when you sent this!

Noel
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Re: Alternative To IPv6

2011-04-02 Thread Jorge Amodio
 I will send out notices as the release date in 2012 approaches.

That's excellent, please send the notice before the Mayan calendar ends. Tnx.

-J
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Re: Alternative To IPv6

2011-04-02 Thread Turchanyi Geza
Hi,

Quite a few people reminded me for the date of your message, which was All
Fool Day.

Oh yes, I surely forgot to check this! Then I realised one more thing: I
surely forgot to translate jaibuduvin! J'ai bu du vin is in French, that
I know at least, and translates to I was drinking wine!

My serious congratulation to your jokes!

Mes felicitacions serieux!

Amitié,

Géza

On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 1:02 AM, Jorge Amodio jmamo...@gmail.com wrote:

  I will send out notices as the release date in 2012 approaches.

 That's excellent, please send the notice before the Mayan calendar ends.
 Tnx.

 -J
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Alternative to IPv6 in the Works

2011-04-01 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Hey, we do all the good gags!
http://packetlife.net/blog/2011/apr/1/alternative-ipv6-works/

Well, it's good to know IDs make headlines before they've even made it into the 
repository directories, a sign of changing times no doubt ...

Cheers,
Sabahattin
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Alternative To IPv6

2011-04-01 Thread J. C. Jones
Hi All,

Those associated with the IETF and those with interest in computer
networking might be interested to know that a new, clean-slate network
protocol stack, an alternative to the IPv4 and IPv6, is due out in 2012.
This new protocol stack will provide the following features:


   1. A generalized solution to *naming*, *numbering*, and *addressing
*problems,
   where domain names and IP addresses have been given a sound, theoretical
   basis, with particular emphasis on rethinking the nature of domain names
   with respect to IP addresses. Well-known port numbers would become
   unnecessary for many applications.
   2. A generalized solution to the *mobility *problem, where networks of
   networks may be mobile, with continuously optimal routing from source to
   target and ultra-fast handover over multiple wireless technologies existing
   within the same node that allows PDA's to easily be used as cell phones
   while making and breaking of Wi-Fi links.
   3. A generalized solution to the *multicast *problem, where a PDA might
   serve as the root of a *1,000,000,000*-node multicast tree, and where an
   application sourcing the multicast can be written by a programmer in one
   afternoon whose possesses a near-minimum understanding of computer
   networking.
   4. A generalized solution to the *security *problem, where each feature
   commonly provided by an underlying security framework [hiding, signing,
   etc.] might be independently enabled or disabled without affecting the
   operation of cooperative features.
   5. A generalized solution to the *access control* problem, where
   specifying access control parameters makes sense to technical neophytes,
   where username/passwords are essentially non-existent, and where it is
   plainly evident from the model that it is regular and persistent.
   6. A gratuitous, parasitic framework that, if it were so chosen, would
   allow for the *elimination of the majority of email spam* and similar
   nuisances on the Internet.
   7. A strictly* 99.8% portable* reference implementation for most
   multi-threaded OS's, written in C++.
   8. A network application *library *that presents *persistent primitives
   of computer networking* [C++ classes].
   9. *International support* for almost all of the world's languages, not
   only for domain names, but for all textual processing under the purview of
   the protocol stack. Specifically, almost equal weight will be given for
   non-English languages as for English.
   10. A total executable size of l*ess than 1MB* [without a GUI] for a *
   full-featured* stack destined for small-footprint devices.
   11. *Initial compatibility with IPv4* routing, where new, disruptive
   applications may be created over the new protocol stack without requiring
   changes to existing IPv4 routing. A full-break from IPv4 would require no
   human intervention [renumbering] at the point of change-over, and after
   change-over, said disruptive applications would continue to function,
   unaware that change-over has occurred.
   12. *Simplicity*. The new stack should be understandable in its entirely
   by a single software engineer after 3 months of study.

I will send out notices as the release date in 2012 approaches.

Warm Regards,
-JC
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