Re: DNS query reliability (was Re: The internet architecture)

2008-12-08 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 06:23:02AM -0800,
 Dave CROCKER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote 
 a message of 37 lines which said:

> One could imagine producing a BCP about common DNS implementation and 
> operation errors or, more positively, recommendations for implementation 
> and operation.
>
> One could equally imagine some group actively pursuing improvements to 
> the major implementations (and operations) that have problems.
>
> I seem to recall seeing small forays in this direction, in the past.  

Indeed, there are many efforts to improve the DNS usage.

In IETFland, there are RFC 1912, 2182, 4472, 4641, 5358 and many
Internet-Drafts.

Outside IETF, there are efforts such as http://www.zonecheck.fr/";>registries like AFNIC that require a
successful technical test of the name servers before every
delegation

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DNS query reliability (was Re: The internet architecture)

2008-12-06 Thread Dave CROCKER



Andrew Sullivan wrote:

It seems to me true, from experience and from anecdote, that DNS out
at endpoints has all manner of failure modes that have little to do
with the protocol and a lot to do with decisions that implementers and
operators made, either on purpose or by accident. 

...

This suggests to me that there will be an opportunity to improve some
of the operations in the wild,

...

If you have a cache of these examples, I'd be delighted to see them.



One could imagine producing a BCP about common DNS implementation and operation 
errors or, more positively, recommendations for implementation and operation.


One could equally imagine some group actively pursuing improvements to the major 
implementations (and operations) that have problems.


I seem to recall seeing small forays in this direction, in the past.  Your query 
might encourage an organized effort that follows through with making actual DNS 
operation -- as opposed to attack or defense of the protocol -- provide the 
needed level of *end-to-end* reliability.


d/
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  Dave Crocker
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