Re: Draft version of the IAD job announcement from the IASA TT
I also agree. If we are looking for an executive-level person capable of serving as top-level management for a multi-million dollar activity, I think that a professional executive search would be worthwhile. Margaret At 5:23 PM -0500 12/19/04, Scott Bradner wrote: jck sed: Personally, I think I'd be happier with a professionally-conducted search, but YMMD (and probably does). I agree (fwiw) I suggested directly to the IASA TT but did not get a positive respose so I'll suggest here - I'd sure like to have a professional in the field of looking for people of this type at least take a look at the job description (which struck me, maybe not as strongly as it did jck, not up to professional grade). Scott ___ Ietf mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ___ Ietf mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Draft version of the IAD job announcement from the IASA TT
I have no objection to having a professional look over the job description. That is probably a good idea. A full professional search is in my opinion not warranted or useful. I have worked with a number of executive search firms on senior level searches. They are very useful if what you want is already in their portfolio. The further it is from their norm, the less return you get on the very high investment. Note: this is a general comment. There are individuals in the search profession who are very good and add value worth their cost. But they are few and far between. Yours, Joel M. Halpern At 05:23 PM 12/19/2004, Scott Bradner wrote: jck sed: > Personally, I think I'd be happier with a > professionally-conducted search, but YMMD (and probably does). I agree (fwiw) I suggested directly to the IASA TT but did not get a positive respose so I'll suggest here - I'd sure like to have a professional in the field of looking for people of this type at least take a look at the job description (which struck me, maybe not as strongly as it did jck, not up to professional grade). Scott ___ Ietf mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ___ Ietf mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Draft version of the IAD job announcement from the IASA TT
jck sed: > Personally, I think I'd be happier with a > professionally-conducted search, but YMMD (and probably does). I agree (fwiw) I suggested directly to the IASA TT but did not get a positive respose so I'll suggest here - I'd sure like to have a professional in the field of looking for people of this type at least take a look at the job description (which struck me, maybe not as strongly as it did jck, not up to professional grade). Scott ___ Ietf mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Draft version of the IAD job announcement from the IASA TT
Harald, Perhaps I'm the only one for whom the schedule on this has prevented comments: the IETF is not my full-time job and other priorities took over the last week or two. But I have finally had the opportunity to browse through the comments today. I find most of them interesting and helpful, but they are also not completely consistent. For example, at least one set of comments pointed out the "COO of the IETF" is a statement not justified by the draft BCP test and that it has significant implications. Another set indicated approval of that terminology, the others did not comment on it. I think there are other, similar, cases. Still other comments point, I think, to a fairly significant change in tone and, in particular, the need to better establish the level of this position and its relationship to other bodies. In my personal experience, and that of many of the HR and recruiting professionals with whom I've had discussions over the years, job descriptions that leave too much open encourage applications from inappropriate people and, especially for relatively senior positions, actually discourage appropriate people from applying. This is, as some of the commenters pointed out, important. It is important enough, IMO, that it really should represent community consensus, especially if the job description cannot be checked against a BCP that is still under discussion and development. Given that, and given also that, at least in this case, contradictory comments should not, IMO, be taken as "do whatever you like", I want to make two very strong suggestions to you and the transition team: (1) Don't just take the comments, figure out what you think they mean and how they should be reconciled, rewrite the description and send it out. Instead, post it back to the IETF list for a quick review by the community before declaring it as the final job description. My experience is that nothing happens in the week before the Xmas holiday anyway: whether you get the job description posted on Monday or Thursday is unlikely to make any practical difference. For that reason, I share the skepticism of some of the comments about trying to start evaluations, and perhaps fill the position, on January 15, but that is another issue. (2) Please review, within the Transition Team and in conjunction with whatever budget you are working from, whether the nature of this position is such that it would be appropriate to engage professional executive search/ recruiting talent to review and edit the job description for us even if not to conduct the search itself. Personally, I think I'd be happier with a professionally-conducted search, but YMMD (and probably does). As others have commented in other ways, we are not looking for an administrative assistant here, but someone on whose skills, experience, talent, and effectiveness the future and functioning of the IETF may critically depend. To me, at least, several aspects of the way in which the description is written scream out "amateur job". That isn't a comment about content, but about style of presentation. But it isn't clear to me that we can afford the appearance of amateur jobs: just as an amateurish resume can sometimes prevent an otherwise-qualified candidate from getting the attention and interviews needed to get a job, an amateurish job description may convince people we would like to have apply that we don't have our acts together sufficiently to be an organization he or she wants to work for or with. regards, john --On Sunday, December 19, 2004 11:18 AM +0100 Harald Tveit Alvestrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Brian, Avri, Allison, Spencer and Adrian: Thank you for your feedback! Kurtis is off on holidays now, so I'll be taking on the job of integrating your comments with the text of the announcement. We're aiming to get it out on Monday (Friday proved over-ambitious). Thanks again! ___ Ietf mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Draft version of the IAD job announcement from the IASA TT
Brian, Avri, Allison, Spencer and Adrian: Thank you for your feedback! Kurtis is off on holidays now, so I'll be taking on the job of integrating your comments with the text of the announcement. We're aiming to get it out on Monday (Friday proved over-ambitious). Thanks again! Harald ___ Ietf mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Draft version of the IAD job announcement from the IASA TT
Kurt, all, Sorry these comments are so late. I hope they will be read, though, since I've been deployed on so many IETF operations... I reviewed the BCP draft on the IAD role, and what I think the IAD position should be like. My major issue with the job description is that it makes the IAD too much of a supporting position to a committee of bosses. The IESG has at times with all good intentions acted as a committee of bosses to the Secretariat. We finally learned that that there must be careful channeling, so that any message which is to be executed comes from one designated voice. But further, someone who manages contractor organizations and has signing authority at some level, should be entrusted to become skilled at running the IETF operations at their top performance levels, so the IAOC volunteers don't take the work as their work. The job description should express that the IAOC is quite senior, though under the oversight of the committee I would not think of this as the IAD's being the committee's staff. I would think of the IAD and the contractors as being the *IETF's* business arm, with the committee being the board of that, and having IAD report to them and having oversight over the IAD. JOB DESCRIPTION: "You will report to the Internet Adminstrative Oversight Committee (IAOC) be accountable to the IETF community" [note missing "and"] This is the root of my first comment - "report to" - I think we can leave this and perhaps my comment really needs to be addressed in the BCP? "Serve as the primary staff resource for the governing body of the administrative resource for the IETF" This is the root of my second comment. Can it be dropped? A few more comments inline. > >The IETF Administrative Entity is seeking a highly capable > > individual > >to serve as Administrative Director. You will report to the > >Internet Administrative Oversight Committee (IAOC) be accountable > >to the IETF community. This is a highly visible and very demanding > >job. You will be expected to: > > > >oWorking with the IAOC to document and cater for the > > administrative > > requirements of the IETF, IESG, IAB and IRTF. > > > >oEstablish the IASA/IETF annual budgets, and the financial > > administration and reporting of IASA/IETF. > > > >oWork with ISOC and various service providers to establish > > appropriate agreed budgets and related financial and performance > > reporting. > > > >oContract negotiations with service providers, and establish > > procedures for meassuring the performance of these providers. > > > >oEventual mangagement of support staff and contractors. > > > >oServe as the day-to-day chief operating officer of the IETF, > > managing a number of contractors and working with a number of > > volunteers. I like this. > > > >oWork with our liaison organizations, such as the RFC Editor and > > the IANA. > > > >oCoordinate the standards-making support process, in particular > > the > > periodic meetings of the IESG. There's a lot more to standards-making support than our meetings, so I'm not sure about just calling out the meetings, even if "periodic" makes sense. Maybe "Coordinate the correct functions of the standards-making process, in particular the regular meetings of the IESG, but also all other aspects, wherever they are managed." > > > >oServe as the primary staff resource for the governing body of > > the > > administrative entity for the IETF. > > > >oWork with your contractors and members of the IETF community to > > provide adequate support and planning for 3 IETF meetings > > annually, and for frequent meetings and teleconferences of the > > IAB, IESG, and other bodies that support the IETF. > > > > > >The following characteristics are necessary for this job: > > > >oThis job is public service. You should be able to work > > successfully with large numbers of people. This requires a high > > clock rate, a large stack, and the ability to listen carefully. > > > >oThis is an operations job. IETF meetings are large and complex, > > and the day-to-day activities of the standards-making process is > > demanding. You should be adept at getting real results and > > helping large groups work together towards common goals and > > deadlines. > > > >oThis is a public job. You will be required to present the > > results and achievements of the IASA in front of the community > > as well as dealing with questions from individual members of the > > community. The goal of IASA is to achieve as much transparency > > as possible so good communication skills, and previous similar > > experiences are valued. > > > >oThis job requires a financially astute individual. The IETF is a > > $2-$3 million/year ope
Re: Draft version of the IAD job announcement from the IASA TT
On 16 dec 2004, at 04.18, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- The IETF Administrative Entity Isn't it the transition team that is seeking the IAD at this point? is seeking a highly capable individual to serve as Administrative Director. You will report to the Internet Administrative Oversight Committee (IAOC) be accountable to the IETF community. This is a highly visible and very demanding job. Shouldn't we state explicitly that the IAD will be an employee of ISOC? You will be expected to: o Working with the IAOC to document and cater for the administrative requirements of the IETF, IESG, IAB and IRTF. cater is a difficult word that ussually refers to food. I would recommend 'provide for' o Establish the IASA/IETF annual budgets, and the financial administration and reporting of IASA/IETF. These should be established in cooperation with ISOC and IASA. This will not be done in isolation. o Work with ISOC and various service providers to establish appropriate agreed budgets and related financial and performance reporting. o Contract negotiations with service providers, and establish procedures for meassuring the performance of these providers. o Eventual mangagement of support staff and contractors. o Serve as the day-to-day chief operating officer of the IETF, managing a number of contractors and working with a number of volunteers. Have we gone so far as to call this job the COO of the IETF? Not only is the IETF not an organization that is structured to have a COO, but i think giving this position the COO designation may be misleading. o Work with our liaison organizations, such as the RFC Editor and the IANA. liaison? o Serve as the primary staff resource for the governing body of the administrative entity for the IETF. What does this mean? o Work with your contractors and members of the IETF community to provide adequate support and planning for 3 IETF meetings annually, and for frequent meetings and teleconferences of the IAB, IESG, and other bodies that support the IETF. The following characteristics are necessary for this job: o This job is public service. You should be able to work successfully with large numbers of people. This requires a high clock rate, a large stack, Well, i understand how you would measure these thing in a robot, but I am not sure how to determine these capabilities in a human. I think, it might be better to refer to these attributes in human terms; something like the ability to handle a multitude of simultaneous tasks. and the ability to listen carefully. o This is an operations job. IETF meetings are large and complex, and the day-to-day activities of the standards-making process is demanding. You should be adept at getting real results and helping large groups work together towards common goals and deadlines. should we mention that the nature of working together is consensus based? o This is a public job. You will be required to present the results and achievements of the IASA in front of the community as well as dealing with questions from individual members of the community. The goal of IASA is to achieve as much transparency and accountability? as possible so good communication skills, and previous similar experiences are valued. o This job requires a financially astute individual. The IETF is a $2-$3 million/year operation. IETF funds are tight and we expect you to take leadership in establishing our budgetary procedures, our procurement standards, and understanding our revenue sources. In-depth familiarity with the IETF prior to assuming this position is not required, but you must be able to quickly get up to speed and learn the unique culture and requirements of the organization. Should we require experience in running a similar type of operation? Likewise, long-term technical experience is not required, but you must be a quick learner and adept at using the Internet effectively. The Internet Society is based in Reston, Virginia and the job will require a high level of travel for IETF meetings and preparation and related meetings. You may work out of a home office as a telecommuter, or use the Internet Society facilities in Virginia. In either case, you should be prepared to travel to Virginia, IETF meetings, and the locations where the IETF has contractors. Salary levels commensurate with experience and qualifications. you might want to ask applicants to state salary requirements You must be fluent in spoken and written english. Applicants should forward a resume, references, should ask for a certain number of references and any other relevant materials, with a cover letter explaining why they feel they are the right person for this position written in text or PDF, in an email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications will be evaluated starting January
Re: Draft version of the IAD job announcement from the IASA TT
The current timeline for moving forward is as follows DEC 18 Send out call for applications to o IETF-Announce list o ISOC announcement lists o NANOG, SANOG, NORDNOG, AFNOG, etc o Ask RIRs to forward to their respective announcement lists That's pretty tight... 24 hours for IETF comments? JAN 15 evaluation of applicants start Even if you get it out this week, that is also tight due to the various holidays. I think you will have to accept applications at least until end January. Comments and suggested changes below. We would appreciate any feedback as soon as possible, either on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list OR directly to the IASA team at [EMAIL PROTECTED] On behalf of the IASA-TT - - kurtis - The IETF Administrative Entity There is no such thing defined - we have only defined the IETF Administrative Support Activity. is seeking a highly capable individual to serve as Administrative Director. You will report to the Internet Administrative Oversight Committee (IAOC) be accountable Flame-bait! It's the IETF Administrative Oversight Committee. Also there is a missing "and" after "(IAOC)". to the IETF community. This is a highly visible and very demanding job. You will be expected to: o Working with the IAOC to document and cater for the administrative requirements of the IETF, IESG, IAB and IRTF. o Work with the IAOC to document the administrative requirements of the IETF, IESG, IAB and IRTF, and manage their implementation. o Establish the IASA/IETF annual budgets, and the financial administration and reporting of IASA/IETF. o Establish the IASA/IETF annual budgets and the financial administration of IASA, and be responsible for their reporting to the IETF. o Work with ISOC and various service providers to establish appropriate agreed budgets and related financial and performance reporting. o Contract negotiations with service providers, and establish procedures for meassuring the performance of these providers. o Negotiate contracts with service providers, and establish procedures for measuring and reporting the performance of these providers. o Eventual mangagement of support staff and contractors. o If applicable, mangage support staff and contractors. o Serve as the day-to-day chief operating officer of the IETF, managing a number of contractors and working with a number of volunteers. o Work with our liaison organizations, such as the RFC Editor and the IANA. These are not liaisons. The RFC Editor is under contract and the IANA operates under an MOU. They are service providers and should not be mentioned at all in this document as special cases. o Serve as the primary staff resource for the governing body of the administrative entity for the IETF. What on earth does that mean? I think it just means "you report to the IAOC" which is stated above. I recommend deleting it. o Work with your contractors and members of the IETF community to provide adequate support and planning for 3 IETF meetings annually, and for frequent meetings and teleconferences of the IAB, IESG, and other bodies that support the IETF. Add: o Work with contractors and members of the IETF community to ensure support for the IETF's various on line systems and tools, used to support IETF activities and to make IETF drafts and specifications generally available to the public. The following characteristics are necessary for this job: o This job is public service. You should be able to work successfully with large numbers of people. This requires a high clock rate, a large stack, and the ability to listen carefully. mention international nature of the community o This is an operations job. IETF meetings are large and complex, and the day-to-day activities of the standards-making process is demanding. You should be adept at getting real results and helping large groups work together towards common goals and deadlines. o This is a public job. You will be required to present the results and achievements of the IASA in front of the community as well as dealing with questions from individual members of the community. The goal of IASA is to achieve as much transparency as possible so good communication skills, and previous similar experiences are valued. o This job requires a financially astute individual. The IETF is a $2-$3 million/year operation. IETF funds are tight and we expect you to take leadership in establishing our budgetary procedures, our procurement standards, and understanding our revenue sources. o This job requires a good understanding of modern information technology including networks, but does not necessarily require the individual appointed to be an IT or networking specialist. In-depth familiarity with the IETF prior to assuming this positio
Re: Draft version of the IAD job announcement from the IASA TT
Thanks for the comments, Adrian! --On torsdag, desember 16, 2004 12:06:02 + Adrian Farrel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Typos etc. are easily fixed (in-line). Isn't it normal to give a closing date for applications rather than to say when evaluation of applications will start? It might also be usual to indicate from when we are hoping to fill the post. The date for filling the post is "ASAP" - but this is an important position. If we have to wait 6 months before the best available person can disentangle from other arrangements, so be it - but if the obviously qualified person is able to drop whatever he/she's doing and start on Jan 15, I'm sure we'll figure out some way to make that happen too. Is "Salary levels commensurate with experience and qualifications" a cop-out? You might say "expected to be in the range..." It's a cop-out - we don't know what we need to pay to get the people we want. ___ Ietf mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Draft version of the IAD job announcement from the IASA TT
Is "Salary levels commensurate with experience and qualifications" a cop-out? You might say "expected to be in the range..." Adrian Agree with Adrian here - "commensurate" makes sense when you hire several people with a range of experience, or when you are waiting to see who actually applies before approving budget for a position. The first condition does not apply here, and I'm having a hard time imagining someone being selected for the position with a LOT less experience than we expected the selected candidate to have. No, don't name a number, but naming a range is likely to help people decide whether you're actually looking for THEM! Spencer ___ Ietf mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Draft version of the IAD job announcement from the IASA TT
Typos etc. are easily fixed (in-line). Isn't it normal to give a closing date for applications rather than to say when evaluation of applications will start? It might also be usual to indicate from when we are hoping to fill the post. Is "Salary levels commensurate with experience and qualifications" a cop-out? You might say "expected to be in the range..." Adrian - Original Message - From: "Kurt Erik Lindqvist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 9:18 AM Subject: Draft version of the IAD job announcement from the IASA TT > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > All, > > please find below the draft call for applications for the IAD position. > The current timeline for moving forward is as follows > > DEC 18 Send out call for applications to > o IETF-Announce list > o ISOC announcement lists > o NANOG, SANOG, NORDNOG, AFNOG, etc > o Ask RIRs to forward to their respective announcement lists > JAN 15 evaluation of applicants start > > We would appreciate any feedback as soon as possible, either on the > [EMAIL PROTECTED] list OR directly to the IASA team at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On behalf of the IASA-TT > > - - kurtis - > > > The IETF Administrative Entity is seeking a highly capable individual > to serve as Administrative Director. You will report to the > Internet Administrative Oversight Committee (IAOC) be accountable s/(IAOC) be/(IAOC) and be/ > to the IETF community. This is a highly visible and very demanding > job. You will be expected to: > > o Working with the IAOC to document and cater for the administrative s/Working/Work/ > requirements of the IETF, IESG, IAB and IRTF. > > o Establish the IASA/IETF annual budgets, and the financial > administration and reporting of IASA/IETF. If you mean that there are two separate operations here: 1. establish budgets 2. establish financial admin and reporting I suggest you split this into two bullets >o Work with ISOC and various service providers to establish > appropriate agreed budgets and related financial and performance > reporting. > > o Contract negotiations with service providers, and establish s/Contract negotiations/Negotiate contracts/ > procedures for meassuring the performance of these providers. > > o Eventual mangagement of support staff and contractors. s/Eventual mangagement/Assume eventual mangagement/ > o Serve as the day-to-day chief operating officer of the IETF, > managing a number of contractors and working with a number of > volunteers. > > o Work with our liaison organizations, such as the RFC Editor and > the IANA. > > o Serve as the primary staff resource for the governing body of the > administrative entity for the IETF. > > o Work with your contractors and members of the IETF community to > provide adequate support and planning for 3 IETF meetings > annually, and for frequent meetings and teleconferences of the > IAB, IESG, and other bodies that support the IETF. > > The following characteristics are necessary for this job: > > o This job is public service. You should be able to work > successfully with large numbers of people. This requires a high > clock rate, a large stack, and the ability to listen carefully. > > o This is an operations job. IETF meetings are large and complex, > and the day-to-day activities of the standards-making process is > demanding. You should be adept at getting real results and > helping large groups work together towards common goals and > deadlines. > > o This is a public job. You will be required to present the > results and achievements of the IASA in front of the community > as well as dealing with questions from individual members of the > community. The goal of IASA is to achieve as much transparency > as possible so good communication skills, and previous similar > experiences are valued. > > o This job requires a financially astute individual. The IETF is a > $2-$3 million/year operation. IETF funds are tight and we expect > you to take leadership in establishing our budgetary procedures, > our procurement standards, and understanding our revenue sources. > > In-depth familiarity with the IETF prior to assuming this position is > not required, but you must be able to quickly get up to speed and > learn the unique culture and requirements of the organization. > Likewise, long-term technical experience is not required, but you > must be a quick learner and adept at using the Internet effectively. > > The Internet Society
Draft version of the IAD job announcement from the IASA TT
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 All, please find below the draft call for applications for the IAD position. The current timeline for moving forward is as follows DEC 18 Send out call for applications to o IETF-Announce list o ISOC announcement lists o NANOG, SANOG, NORDNOG, AFNOG, etc o Ask RIRs to forward to their respective announcement lists JAN 15 evaluation of applicants start We would appreciate any feedback as soon as possible, either on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list OR directly to the IASA team at [EMAIL PROTECTED] On behalf of the IASA-TT - - kurtis - The IETF Administrative Entity is seeking a highly capable individual to serve as Administrative Director. You will report to the Internet Administrative Oversight Committee (IAOC) be accountable to the IETF community. This is a highly visible and very demanding job. You will be expected to: o Working with the IAOC to document and cater for the administrative requirements of the IETF, IESG, IAB and IRTF. o Establish the IASA/IETF annual budgets, and the financial administration and reporting of IASA/IETF. o Work with ISOC and various service providers to establish appropriate agreed budgets and related financial and performance reporting. o Contract negotiations with service providers, and establish procedures for meassuring the performance of these providers. o Eventual mangagement of support staff and contractors. o Serve as the day-to-day chief operating officer of the IETF, managing a number of contractors and working with a number of volunteers. o Work with our liaison organizations, such as the RFC Editor and the IANA. o Serve as the primary staff resource for the governing body of the administrative entity for the IETF. o Work with your contractors and members of the IETF community to provide adequate support and planning for 3 IETF meetings annually, and for frequent meetings and teleconferences of the IAB, IESG, and other bodies that support the IETF. The following characteristics are necessary for this job: o This job is public service. You should be able to work successfully with large numbers of people. This requires a high clock rate, a large stack, and the ability to listen carefully. o This is an operations job. IETF meetings are large and complex, and the day-to-day activities of the standards-making process is demanding. You should be adept at getting real results and helping large groups work together towards common goals and deadlines. o This is a public job. You will be required to present the results and achievements of the IASA in front of the community as well as dealing with questions from individual members of the community. The goal of IASA is to achieve as much transparency as possible so good communication skills, and previous similar experiences are valued. o This job requires a financially astute individual. The IETF is a $2-$3 million/year operation. IETF funds are tight and we expect you to take leadership in establishing our budgetary procedures, our procurement standards, and understanding our revenue sources. In-depth familiarity with the IETF prior to assuming this position is not required, but you must be able to quickly get up to speed and learn the unique culture and requirements of the organization. Likewise, long-term technical experience is not required, but you must be a quick learner and adept at using the Internet effectively. The Internet Society is based in Reston, Virginia and the job will require a high level of travel for IETF meetings and preparation and related meetings. You may work out of a home office as a telecommuter, or use the Internet Society facilities in Virginia. In either case, you should be prepared to travel to Virginia, IETF meetings, and the locations where the IETF has contractors. Salary levels commensurate with experience and qualifications. You must be fluent in spoken and written english. Applicants should forward a resume, references, and any other relevant materials, with a cover letter explaining why they feel they are the right person for this position written in text or PDF, in an email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications will be evaluated starting January 15th. The evaluation of applications, selection and appointment of the IAD will be made by the IASA transition team. The list of applicants will not be posted publicly, but will be reviewed in confidence by members of the evaluation committee, the IAB, and the IESG. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.1 iQA/AwUBQcFS8aarNKXTPFCVEQKk/wCgykkbRICv/w4TbgaRTa+iKeeDImkAn0S4 hcLPkCUqazD9N7nzjRshjLkf =QR57 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Ietf mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www1.iet