FAQ: The IETF+Censored list

2001-02-28 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand


The IETF+Censored mailing list
   
   At times, the IETF list is subject to debates that have little to do
   with the purposes for which the IETF list was created. Some people
   would appreciate a "quieter" forum for the relevant debates that take
   place, but the IETF's policy of openness has so far prevented the IETF
   from imposing any censorship policy on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list.
   
   To give people an alternative, there is a list called
   "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".
   
   This list is a sublist (that is, it gets the same messages as) the
   open IETF discussion list. However, this list will not forward all
   messages; in particular, the filters have been set so that persons and
   discussions that are, in the view of Harald Alvestrand, irrelevant to
   the IETF list are not forwarded.
   
   Because this filter is automated, the criteria include:
 * Well known troublemakers
 * Well known crosspostings
 * Subjects that have led to recent non-conclusive exchanges
 * Some ways to say "unsubscribe"
   
   To join the list, [1]send the word "subscribe" in the BODY of a
   message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the URL here is an RFC
   2368 mailto URL that does the Right Thing).
   
   To unsubscribe, [2]send the word "unsubscribe" in the BODY of a
   message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do not send to the
   list - your message will be filtered!
   (members of the main IETF list itself must follow instructions for
   that list, of course. You are only a member of ietf+censored if there
   is a comment on the bottom of your IETF list mail saying that the
   message has been sent through the ietf+censored list.)
   
   For fun, there is a special list for the rejected messages:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] - subscribe in the same fashion,
   by [3]mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   By public request, the current set of filters are listed at
   [4]http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
   
   Some statistics on postings, which may be useful in getting a
   perspective on the effects of the filter, are at
   [5]posting-counts.html (started Oct 14, 1998).
   
   This page is http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf+censored.html, and is
   posted monthly in text form to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 _
   
   Harald Tveit Alvestrand [6]< [EMAIL PROTECTED]>

References

   1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe
   2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=unsubscribe
   3. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe
   4. http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
   5. http://www.alvestrand.no/posting-counts.html
   6. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: FAQ: The IETF+Censored list

2001-02-04 Thread Harald Alvestrand

At 09:43 01/02/2001 +0700, Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim wrote:
>Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
>
> >The IETF+Censored mailing list
>
>I believe that that message itself does not comply
>BCP-45/RFC-3005.

The "inappropriate" list from that document includes:

> - Unsolicited bulk e-mail
> - Discussion of subjects unrelated to IETF policy, meetings,
>   activities, or technical concerns
> - Unprofessional commentary, regardless of the general subject
> - Announcements of conferences, events, or activities that are not
>   sponsored or endorsed by the Internet Society or IETF.

Which of those categories do you think it falls under?

>  Furthermore, the filter itself is somehow
>out-of-date.
>
>http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
>
>May I be listed in that filter anyway :^)?

requests to be added are routinely denied by the administrator .-)

--
Harald Tveit Alvestrand, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+47 41 44 29 94
Personal email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




FAQ: The IETF+Censored list

2001-01-31 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand


The IETF+Censored mailing list
   
   At times, the IETF list is subject to debates that have little to do
   with the purposes for which the IETF list was created. Some people
   would appreciate a "quieter" forum for the relevant debates that take
   place, but the IETF's policy of openness has so far prevented the IETF
   from imposing any censorship policy on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list.
   
   To give people an alternative, there is a list called
   "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".
   
   This list is a sublist (that is, it gets the same messages as) the
   open IETF discussion list. However, this list will not forward all
   messages; in particular, the filters have been set so that persons and
   discussions that are, in the view of Harald Alvestrand, irrelevant to
   the IETF list are not forwarded.
   
   Because this filter is automated, the criteria include:
 * Well known troublemakers
 * Well known crosspostings
 * Subjects that have led to recent non-conclusive exchanges
 * Some ways to say "unsubscribe"
   
   To join the list, [1]send the word "subscribe" in the BODY of a
   message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the URL here is an RFC
   2368 mailto URL that does the Right Thing).
   
   To unsubscribe, [2]send the word "unsubscribe" in the BODY of a
   message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do not send to the
   list - your message will be filtered!
   (members of the main IETF list itself must follow instructions for
   that list, of course. You are only a member of ietf+censored if there
   is a comment on the bottom of your IETF list mail saying that the
   message has been sent through the ietf+censored list.)
   
   For fun, there is a special list for the rejected messages:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] - subscribe in the same fashion,
   by [3]mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   By public request, the current set of filters are listed at
   [4]http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
   
   Some statistics on postings, which may be useful in getting a
   perspective on the effects of the filter, are at
   [5]posting-counts.html (started Oct 14, 1998).
   
   This page is http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf+censored.html, and is
   posted monthly in text form to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 _
   
   Harald Tveit Alvestrand [6]< [EMAIL PROTECTED]>

References

   1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe
   2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=unsubscribe
   3. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe
   4. http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
   5. http://www.alvestrand.no/posting-counts.html
   6. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: FAQ: The IETF+Censored list

2001-01-31 Thread Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim

Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:

>The IETF+Censored mailing list

I believe that that message itself does not comply 
BCP-45/RFC-3005. Furthermore, the filter itself is somehow 
out-of-date.

http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters

May I be listed in that filter anyway :^)?

regrets,

-- 
Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim - VLSM-TJT - http://rms46.vlsm.org
- Good bye hegemony - http://sapi.vlsm.org/DLL/linuxrouter




FAQ: The IETF+Censored list

2000-12-31 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand


The IETF+Censored mailing list
   
   At times, the IETF list is subject to debates that have little to do
   with the purposes for which the IETF list was created. Some people
   would appreciate a "quieter" forum for the relevant debates that take
   place, but the IETF's policy of openness has so far prevented the IETF
   from imposing any censorship policy on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list.
   
   To give people an alternative, there is a list called
   "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".
   
   This list is a sublist (that is, it gets the same messages as) the
   open IETF discussion list. However, this list will not forward all
   messages; in particular, the filters have been set so that persons and
   discussions that are, in the view of Harald Alvestrand, irrelevant to
   the IETF list are not forwarded.
   
   Because this filter is automated, the criteria include:
 * Well known troublemakers
 * Well known crosspostings
 * Subjects that have led to recent non-conclusive exchanges
 * Some ways to say "unsubscribe"
   
   To join the list, [1]send the word "subscribe" in the BODY of a
   message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the URL here is an RFC
   2368 mailto URL that does the Right Thing).
   
   To unsubscribe, [2]send the word "unsubscribe" in the BODY of a
   message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do not send to the
   list - your message will be filtered!
   (members of the main IETF list itself must follow instructions for
   that list, of course. You are only a member of ietf+censored if there
   is a comment on the bottom of your IETF list mail saying that the
   message has been sent through the ietf+censored list.)
   
   For fun, there is a special list for the rejected messages:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] - subscribe in the same fashion,
   by [3]mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   By public request, the current set of filters are listed at
   [4]http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
   
   Some statistics on postings, which may be useful in getting a
   perspective on the effects of the filter, are at
   [5]posting-counts.html (started Oct 14, 1998).
   
   This page is http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf+censored.html, and is
   posted monthly in text form to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 _
   
   Harald Tveit Alvestrand [6]< [EMAIL PROTECTED]>

References

   1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe
   2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=unsubscribe
   3. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe
   4. http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
   5. http://www.alvestrand.no/posting-counts.html
   6. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]




FAQ: The IETF+Censored list

2000-11-30 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand


The IETF+Censored mailing list
   
   At times, the IETF list is subject to debates that have little to do
   with the purposes for which the IETF list was created. Some people
   would appreciate a "quieter" forum for the relevant debates that take
   place, but the IETF's policy of openness has so far prevented the IETF
   from imposing any censorship policy on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list.
   
   To give people an alternative, there is a list called
   "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".
   
   This list is a sublist (that is, it gets the same messages as) the
   open IETF discussion list. However, this list will not forward all
   messages; in particular, the filters have been set so that persons and
   discussions that are, in the view of Harald Alvestrand, irrelevant to
   the IETF list are not forwarded.
   
   Because this filter is automated, the criteria include:
 * Well known troublemakers
 * Well known crosspostings
 * Subjects that have led to recent non-conclusive exchanges
 * Some ways to say "unsubscribe"
   
   To join the list, [1]send the word "subscribe" in the BODY of a
   message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the URL here is an RFC
   2368 mailto URL that does the Right Thing).
   
   To unsubscribe, [2]send the word "unsubscribe" in the BODY of a
   message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do not send to the
   list - your message will be filtered!
   (members of the main IETF list itself must follow instructions for
   that list, of course. You are only a member of ietf+censored if there
   is a comment on the bottom of your IETF list mail saying that the
   message has been sent through the ietf+censored list.)
   
   For fun, there is a special list for the rejected messages:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] - subscribe in the same fashion,
   by [3]mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   By public request, the current set of filters are listed at
   [4]http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
   
   Some statistics on postings, which may be useful in getting a
   perspective on the effects of the filter, are at
   [5]posting-counts.html (started Oct 14, 1998).
   
   This page is http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf+censored.html, and is
   posted monthly in text form to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 _
   
   Harald Tveit Alvestrand [6]< [EMAIL PROTECTED]>

References

   1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe
   2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=unsubscribe
   3. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe
   4. http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
   5. http://www.alvestrand.no/posting-counts.html
   6. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]




FAQ: The IETF+Censored list

2000-10-31 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand


The IETF+Censored mailing list
   
   At times, the IETF list is subject to debates that have little to do
   with the purposes for which the IETF list was created. Some people
   would appreciate a "quieter" forum for the relevant debates that take
   place, but the IETF's policy of openness has so far prevented the IETF
   from imposing any censorship policy on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list.
   
   To give people an alternative, there is a list called
   "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".
   
   This list is a sublist (that is, it gets the same messages as) the
   open IETF discussion list. However, this list will not forward all
   messages; in particular, the filters have been set so that persons and
   discussions that are, in the view of Harald Alvestrand, irrelevant to
   the IETF list are not forwarded.
   
   Because this filter is automated, the criteria include:
 * Well known troublemakers
 * Well known crosspostings
 * Subjects that have led to recent non-conclusive exchanges
 * Some ways to say "unsubscribe"
   
   To join the list, [1]send the word "subscribe" in the BODY of a
   message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the URL here is an RFC
   2368 mailto URL that does the Right Thing).
   
   To unsubscribe, [2]send the word "unsubscribe" in the BODY of a
   message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do not send to the
   list - your message will be filtered!
   (members of the main IETF list itself must follow instructions for
   that list, of course. You are only a member of ietf+censored if there
   is a comment on the bottom of your IETF list mail saying that the
   message has been sent through the ietf+censored list.)
   
   For fun, there is a special list for the rejected messages:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] - subscribe in the same fashion,
   by [3]mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   By public request, the current set of filters are listed at
   [4]http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
   
   Some statistics on postings, which may be useful in getting a
   perspective on the effects of the filter, are at
   [5]posting-counts.html (started Oct 14, 1998).
   
   This page is http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf+censored.html, and is
   posted monthly in text form to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 _
   
   Harald Tveit Alvestrand [6]< [EMAIL PROTECTED]>

References

   1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe
   2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=unsubscribe
   3. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe
   4. http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
   5. http://www.alvestrand.no/posting-counts.html
   6. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]




FAQ: The IETF+Censored list

2000-09-30 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand


The IETF+Censored mailing list
   
   At times, the IETF list is subject to debates that have little to do
   with the purposes for which the IETF list was created. Some people
   would appreciate a "quieter" forum for the relevant debates that take
   place, but the IETF's policy of openness has so far prevented the IETF
   from imposing any censorship policy on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list.
   
   To give people an alternative, there is a list called
   "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".
   
   This list is a sublist (that is, it gets the same messages as) the
   open IETF discussion list. However, this list will not forward all
   messages; in particular, the filters have been set so that persons and
   discussions that are, in the view of Harald Alvestrand, irrelevant to
   the IETF list are not forwarded.
   
   Because this filter is automated, the criteria include:
 * Well known troublemakers
 * Well known crosspostings
 * Subjects that have led to recent non-conclusive exchanges
 * Some ways to say "unsubscribe"
   
   To join the list, [1]send the word "subscribe" in the BODY of a
   message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the URL here is an RFC
   2368 mailto URL that does the Right Thing).
   
   To unsubscribe, [2]send the word "unsubscribe" in the BODY of a
   message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do not send to the
   list - your message will be filtered!
   (members of the main IETF list itself must follow instructions for
   that list, of course. You are only a member of ietf+censored if there
   is a comment on the bottom of your IETF list mail saying that the
   message has been sent through the ietf+censored list.)
   
   For fun, there is a special list for the rejected messages:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] - subscribe in the same fashion,
   by [3]mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   By public request, the current set of filters are listed at
   [4]http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
   
   Some statistics on postings, which may be useful in getting a
   perspective on the effects of the filter, are at
   [5]posting-counts.html (started Oct 14, 1998).
   
   This page is http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf+censored.html, and is
   posted monthly in text form to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 _
   
   Harald Tveit Alvestrand [6]< [EMAIL PROTECTED]>

References

   1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe
   2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=unsubscribe
   3. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe
   4. http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
   5. http://www.alvestrand.no/posting-counts.html
   6. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]




FAQ: The IETF+Censored list

2000-08-31 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand


The IETF+Censored mailing list
   
   At times, the IETF list is subject to debates that have little to do
   with the purposes for which the IETF list was created. Some people
   would appreciate a "quieter" forum for the relevant debates that take
   place, but the IETF's policy of openness has so far prevented the IETF
   from imposing any censorship policy on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list.
   
   To give people an alternative, there is a list called
   "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".
   
   This list is a sublist (that is, it gets the same messages as) the
   open IETF discussion list. However, this list will not forward all
   messages; in particular, the filters have been set so that persons and
   discussions that are, in the view of Harald Alvestrand, irrelevant to
   the IETF list are not forwarded.
   
   Because this filter is automated, the criteria include:
 * Well known troublemakers
 * Well known crosspostings
 * Subjects that have led to recent non-conclusive exchanges
 * Some ways to say "unsubscribe"
   
   To join the list, [1]send the word "subscribe" in the BODY of a
   message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the URL here is an RFC
   2368 mailto URL that does the Right Thing).
   
   To unsubscribe, [2]send the word "unsubscribe" in the BODY of a
   message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do not send to the
   list - your message will be filtered!
   (members of the main IETF list itself must follow instructions for
   that list, of course. You are only a member of ietf+censored if there
   is a comment on the bottom of your IETF list mail saying that the
   message has been sent through the ietf+censored list.)
   
   For fun, there is a special list for the rejected messages:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] - subscribe in the same fashion,
   by [3]mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   By public request, the current set of filters are listed at
   [4]http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
   
   Some statistics on postings, which may be useful in getting a
   perspective on the effects of the filter, are at
   [5]posting-counts.html (started Oct 14, 1998).
   
   This page is http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf+censored.html, and is
   posted monthly in text form to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 _
   
   Harald Tveit Alvestrand [6]< [EMAIL PROTECTED]>

References

   1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe
   2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=unsubscribe
   3. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe
   4. http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
   5. http://www.alvestrand.no/posting-counts.html
   6. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]




FAQ: The IETF+Censored list

2000-07-31 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand


The IETF+Censored mailing list
   
   At times, the IETF list is subject to debates that have little to do
   with the purposes for which the IETF list was created. Some people
   would appreciate a "quieter" forum for the relevant debates that take
   place, but the IETF's policy of openness has so far prevented the IETF
   from imposing any censorship policy on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list.
   
   To give people an alternative, there is a list called
   "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".
   
   This list is a sublist (that is, it gets the same messages as) the
   open IETF discussion list. However, this list will not forward all
   messages; in particular, the filters have been set so that persons and
   discussions that are, in the view of Harald Alvestrand, irrelevant to
   the IETF list are not forwarded.
   
   Because this filter is automated, the criteria include:
 * Well known troublemakers
 * Well known crosspostings
 * Subjects that have led to recent non-conclusive exchanges
 * Some ways to say "unsubscribe"
   
   To join the list, [1]send the word "subscribe" in the BODY of a
   message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the URL here is an RFC
   2368 mailto URL that does the Right Thing).
   
   To unsubscribe, [2]send the word "unsubscribe" in the BODY of a
   message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do not send to the
   list - your message will be filtered!
   (members of the main IETF list itself must follow instructions for
   that list, of course. You are only a member of ietf+censored if there
   is a comment on the bottom of your IETF list mail saying that the
   message has been sent through the ietf+censored list.)
   
   For fun, there is a special list for the rejected messages:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] - subscribe in the same fashion,
   by [3]mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   By public request, the current set of filters are listed at
   [4]http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
   
   Some statistics on postings, which may be useful in getting a
   perspective on the effects of the filter, are at
   [5]posting-counts.html (started Oct 14, 1998).
   
   This page is http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf+censored.html, and is
   posted monthly in text form to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 _
   
   Harald Tveit Alvestrand [6]< [EMAIL PROTECTED]>

References

   1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe
   2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=unsubscribe
   3. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe
   4. http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
   5. http://www.alvestrand.no/posting-counts.html
   6. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]




FAQ: The IETF+Censored list

2000-06-30 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand


The IETF+Censored mailing list
   
   At times, the IETF list is subject to debates that have little to do
   with the purposes for which the IETF list was created. Some people
   would appreciate a "quieter" forum for the relevant debates that take
   place, but the IETF's policy of openness has so far prevented the IETF
   from imposing any censorship policy on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list.
   
   To give people an alternative, there is a list called
   "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".
   
   This list is a sublist (that is, it gets the same messages as) the
   open IETF discussion list. However, this list will not forward all
   messages; in particular, the filters have been set so that persons and
   discussions that are, in the view of Harald Alvestrand, irrelevant to
   the IETF list are not forwarded.
   
   Because this filter is automated, the criteria include:
 * Well known troublemakers
 * Well known crosspostings
 * Subjects that have led to recent non-conclusive exchanges
 * Some ways to say "unsubscribe"
   
   To join the list, [1]send the word "subscribe" in the BODY of a
   message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the URL here is an RFC
   2368 mailto URL that does the Right Thing).
   
   To unsubscribe, [2]send the word "unsubscribe" in the BODY of a
   message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do not send to the
   list - your message will be filtered!
   (members of the main IETF list itself must follow instructions for
   that list, of course. You are only a member of ietf+censored if there
   is a comment on the bottom of your IETF list mail saying that the
   message has been sent through the ietf+censored list.)
   
   For fun, there is a special list for the rejected messages:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] - subscribe in the same fashion,
   by [3]mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   By public request, the current set of filters are listed at
   [4]http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
   
   Some statistics on postings, which may be useful in getting a
   perspective on the effects of the filter, are at
   [5]posting-counts.html (started Oct 14, 1998).
   
   This page is http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf+censored.html, and is
   posted monthly in text form to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 _
   
   Harald Tveit Alvestrand [6]< [EMAIL PROTECTED]>

References

   1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe
   2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=unsubscribe
   3. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe
   4. http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
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FAQ: The IETF+Censored list

2000-05-31 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand


The IETF+Censored mailing list
   
   At times, the IETF list is subject to debates that have little to do
   with the purposes for which the IETF list was created. Some people
   would appreciate a "quieter" forum for the relevant debates that take
   place, but the IETF's policy of openness has so far prevented the IETF
   from imposing any censorship policy on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list.
   
   To give people an alternative, there is a list called
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   This list is a sublist (that is, it gets the same messages as) the
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   messages; in particular, the filters have been set so that persons and
   discussions that are, in the view of Harald Alvestrand, irrelevant to
   the IETF list are not forwarded.
   
   Because this filter is automated, the criteria include:
 * Well known troublemakers
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   To join the list, [1]send the word "subscribe" in the BODY of a
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   message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do not send to the
   list - your message will be filtered!
   (members of the main IETF list itself must follow instructions for
   that list, of course. You are only a member of ietf+censored if there
   is a comment on the bottom of your IETF list mail saying that the
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   For fun, there is a special list for the rejected messages:
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   By public request, the current set of filters are listed at
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   Some statistics on postings, which may be useful in getting a
   perspective on the effects of the filter, are at
   [5]posting-counts.html (started Oct 14, 1998).
   
   This page is http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf+censored.html, and is
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FAQ: The IETF+Censored list

2000-04-30 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand


The IETF+Censored mailing list
   
   At times, the IETF list is subject to debates that have little to do
   with the purposes for which the IETF list was created. Some people
   would appreciate a "quieter" forum for the relevant debates that take
   place, but the IETF's policy of openness has so far prevented the IETF
   from imposing any censorship policy on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list.
   
   To give people an alternative, there is a list called
   "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".
   
   This list is a sublist (that is, it gets the same messages as) the
   open IETF discussion list. However, this list will not forward all
   messages; in particular, the filters have been set so that persons and
   discussions that are, in the view of Harald Alvestrand, irrelevant to
   the IETF list are not forwarded.
   
   Because this filter is automated, the criteria include:
 * Well known troublemakers
 * Well known crosspostings
 * Subjects that have led to recent non-conclusive exchanges
 * Some ways to say "unsubscribe"
   
   To join the list, [1]send the word "subscribe" in the BODY of a
   message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the URL here is an RFC
   2368 mailto URL that does the Right Thing).
   
   For fun, there is a special list for the rejected messages:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] - subscribe in the same fashion,
   by [2]mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   By public request, the current set of filters are listed at
   [3]http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
   
   Some statistics on postings, which may be useful in getting a
   perspective on the effects of the filter, are at
   [4]posting-counts.html (started Oct 14, 1998).
   
   This page is http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf+censored.html, and is
   posted monthly in text form to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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   Harald Tveit Alvestrand [5]< [EMAIL PROTECTED]>

References

   1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe
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   3. http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
   4. http://www.alvestrand.no/posting-counts.html
   5. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]




FAQ: The IETF+Censored list

2000-03-31 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand


The IETF+Censored mailing list
   
   At times, the IETF list is subject to debates that have little to do
   with the purposes for which the IETF list was created. Some people
   would appreciate a "quieter" forum for the relevant debates that take
   place, but the IETF's policy of openness has so far prevented the IETF
   from imposing any censorship policy on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list.
   
   To give people an alternative, there is a list called
   "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".
   
   This list is a sublist (that is, it gets the same messages as) the
   open IETF discussion list. However, this list will not forward all
   messages; in particular, the filters have been set so that persons and
   discussions that are, in the view of Harald Alvestrand, irrelevant to
   the IETF list are not forwarded.
   
   Because this filter is automated, the criteria include:
 * Well known troublemakers
 * Well known crosspostings
 * Subjects that have led to recent non-conclusive exchanges
 * Some ways to say "unsubscribe"
   
   To join the list, [1]send the word "subscribe" in the BODY of a
   message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the URL here is an RFC
   2368 mailto URL that does the Right Thing).
   
   For fun, there is a special list for the rejected messages:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] - subscribe in the same fashion,
   by [2]mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   By public request, the current set of filters are listed at
   [3]http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
   
   Some statistics on postings, which may be useful in getting a
   perspective on the effects of the filter, are at
   [4]posting-counts.html (started Oct 14, 1998).
   
   This page is http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf+censored.html, and is
   posted monthly in text form to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 _
   
   Harald Tveit Alvestrand [5]< [EMAIL PROTECTED]>

References

   1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe
   2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe
   3. http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
   4. http://www.alvestrand.no/posting-counts.html
   5. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]




FAQ: The IETF+Censored list

2000-02-29 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand


The IETF+Censored mailing list
   
   At times, the IETF list is subject to debates that have little to do
   with the purposes for which the IETF list was created. Some people
   would appreciate a "quieter" forum for the relevant debates that take
   place, but the IETF's policy of openness has so far prevented the IETF
   from imposing any censorship policy on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list.
   
   To give people an alternative, there is a list called
   "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".
   
   This list is a sublist (that is, it gets the same messages as) the
   open IETF discussion list. However, this list will not forward all
   messages; in particular, the filters have been set so that persons and
   discussions that are, in the view of Harald Alvestrand, irrelevant to
   the IETF list are not forwarded.
   
   Because this filter is automated, the criteria include:
 * Well known troublemakers
 * Well known crosspostings
 * Subjects that have led to recent non-conclusive exchanges
 * Some ways to say "unsubscribe"
   
   To join the list, [1]send the word "subscribe" in the BODY of a
   message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the URL here is an RFC
   2368 mailto URL that does the Right Thing).
   
   For fun, there is a special list for the rejected messages:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] - subscribe in the same fashion,
   by [2]mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   By public request, the current set of filters are listed at
   [3]http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
   
   Some statistics on postings, which may be useful in getting a
   perspective on the effects of the filter, are at
   [4]posting-counts.html (started Oct 14, 1998).
   
   This page is http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf+censored.html, and is
   posted monthly in text form to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 _
   
   Harald Tveit Alvestrand [5]< [EMAIL PROTECTED]>

References

   1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe
   2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe
   3. http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
   4. http://www.alvestrand.no/posting-counts.html
   5. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



FAQ: The IETF+Censored list

2000-01-31 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand


The IETF+Censored mailing list
   
   At times, the IETF list is subject to debates that have little to do
   with the purposes for which the IETF list was created. Some people
   would appreciate a "quieter" forum for the relevant debates that take
   place, but the IETF's policy of openness has so far prevented the IETF
   from imposing any censorship policy on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list.
   
   To give people an alternative, there is a list called
   "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".
   
   This list is a sublist (that is, it gets the same messages as) the
   open IETF discussion list. However, this list will not forward all
   messages; in particular, the filters have been set so that persons and
   discussions that are, in the view of Harald Alvestrand, irrelevant to
   the IETF list are not forwarded.
   
   Because this filter is automated, the criteria include:
 * Well known troublemakers
 * Well known crosspostings
 * Subjects that have led to recent non-conclusive exchanges
 * Some ways to say "unsubscribe"
   
   To join the list, [1]send the word "subscribe" in the BODY of a
   message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the URL here is an RFC
   2368 mailto URL that does the Right Thing).
   
   For fun, there is a special list for the rejected messages:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] - subscribe in the same fashion,
   by [2]mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   By public request, the current set of filters are listed at
   [3]http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
   
   Some statistics on postings, which may be useful in getting a
   perspective on the effects of the filter, are at
   [4]posting-counts.html (started Oct 14, 1998).
   
   This page is http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf+censored.html, and is
   posted monthly in text form to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 _
   
   Harald Tveit Alvestrand [5]< [EMAIL PROTECTED]>

References

   1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe
   2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe
   3. http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
   4. http://www.alvestrand.no/posting-counts.html
   5. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



FAQ: The IETF+Censored list

1999-12-31 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand


The IETF+Censored mailing list
   
   At times, the IETF list is subject to debates that have little to do
   with the purposes for which the IETF list was created. Some people
   would appreciate a "quieter" forum for the relevant debates that take
   place, but the IETF's policy of openness has so far prevented the IETF
   from imposing any censorship policy on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list.
   
   To give people an alternative, there is a list called
   "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".
   
   This list is a sublist (that is, it gets the same messages as) the
   open IETF discussion list. However, this list will not forward all
   messages; in particular, the filters have been set so that persons and
   discussions that are, in the view of Harald Alvestrand, irrelevant to
   the IETF list are not forwarded.
   
   Because this filter is automated, the criteria include:
 * Well known troublemakers
 * Well known crosspostings
 * Subjects that have led to recent non-conclusive exchanges
 * Some ways to say "unsubscribe"
   
   To join the list, [1]send the word "subscribe" in the BODY of a
   message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the URL here is an RFC
   2368 mailto URL that does the Right Thing).
   
   For fun, there is a special list for the rejected messages:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] - subscribe in the same fashion,
   by [2]mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   By public request, the current set of filters are listed at
   [3]http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
   
   Some statistics on postings, which may be useful in getting a
   perspective on the effects of the filter, are at
   [4]posting-counts.html (started Oct 14, 1998).
   
   This page is http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf+censored.html, and is
   posted monthly in text form to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 _
   
   Harald Tveit Alvestrand [5]< [EMAIL PROTECTED]>

References

   1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe
   2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe
   3. http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
   4. http://www.alvestrand.no/posting-counts.html
   5. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



FAQ: The IETF+Censored list

1999-11-30 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand


The IETF+Censored mailing list
   
   At times, the IETF list is subject to debates that have little to do
   with the purposes for which the IETF list was created. Some people
   would appreciate a "quieter" forum for the relevant debates that take
   place, but the IETF's policy of openness has so far prevented the IETF
   from imposing any censorship policy on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list.
   
   To give people an alternative, there is a list called
   "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".
   
   This list is a sublist (that is, it gets the same messages as) the
   open IETF discussion list. However, this list will not forward all
   messages; in particular, the filters have been set so that persons and
   discussions that are, in the view of Harald Alvestrand, irrelevant to
   the IETF list are not forwarded.
   
   Because this filter is automated, the criteria include:
 * Well known troublemakers
 * Well known crosspostings
 * Subjects that have led to recent non-conclusive exchanges
 * Some ways to say "unsubscribe"
   
   To join the list, [1]send the word "subscribe" in the BODY of a
   message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the URL here is an RFC
   2368 mailto URL that does the Right Thing).
   
   For fun, there is a special list for the rejected messages:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] - subscribe in the same fashion,
   by [2]mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   By public request, the current set of filters are listed at
   [3]http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
   
   Some statistics on postings, which may be useful in getting a
   perspective on the effects of the filter, are at
   [4]posting-counts.html (started Oct 14, 1998).
   
   This page is http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf+censored.html, and is
   posted monthly in text form to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 _
   
   Harald Tveit Alvestrand [5]< [EMAIL PROTECTED]>

References

   1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe
   2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe
   3. http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
   4. http://www.alvestrand.no/posting-counts.html
   5. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



FAQ: The IETF+Censored list

1999-10-31 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand


The IETF+Censored mailing list
   
   At times, the IETF list is subject to debates that have little to do
   with the purposes for which the IETF list was created. Some people
   would appreciate a "quieter" forum for the relevant debates that take
   place, but the IETF's policy of openness has so far prevented the IETF
   from imposing any censorship policy on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list.
   
   To give people an alternative, there is a list called
   "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".
   
   This list is a sublist (that is, it gets the same messages as) the
   open IETF discussion list. However, this list will not forward all
   messages; in particular, the filters have been set so that persons and
   discussions that are, in the view of Harald Alvestrand, irrelevant to
   the IETF list are not forwarded.
   
   Because this filter is automated, the criteria include:
 * Well known troublemakers
 * Well known crosspostings
 * Subjects that have led to recent non-conclusive exchanges
 * Some ways to say "unsubscribe"
   
   To join the list, [1]send the word "subscribe" in the BODY of a
   message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the URL here is an RFC
   2368 mailto URL that does the Right Thing).
   
   For fun, there is a special list for the rejected messages:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] - subscribe in the same fashion,
   by [2]mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   By public request, the current set of filters are listed at
   [3]http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
   
   Some statistics on postings, which may be useful in getting a
   perspective on the effects of the filter, are at
   [4]posting-counts.html (started Oct 14, 1998).
   
   This page is http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf+censored.html, and is
   posted monthly in text form to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 _
   
   Harald Tveit Alvestrand [5]< [EMAIL PROTECTED]>

References

   1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe
   2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe
   3. http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
   4. http://www.alvestrand.no/posting-counts.html
   5. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]