RE: Hotel selection
> From: Fred Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > One question I would ask the peanut gallery is: if we were to > pick a small set of venues to return to, which would we pick? > The ones I might think of would include our recent venues in > Paris and Prague, the Minneapolis Hilton, the facility we > were at in Dallas last year (although restaurants weren't > very convenient) I would actually vote strongly against venues such as the Dallas venue. Given that we have over 1,000 people coming into each venue, it seems odd to expect everyone to rent cars and otherwise go somewhere that is relatively remote from other services. IMHO, ideal venues are in city centers, where people can walk from the venue to a wide variety of other hotels and restaurants, and where public transportation is available to connect between airports and regional rail systems and to other parts of the venue's city. This tends to decrease the travel costs and hassles for attendees, among other benefits. Jason ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Hotel selection
Fred, I sent a private list of what worked, but I also wanted to point out out something: > Which venues seemed to "work" from various folks' perspectives? Vancouver might actually be on that list, after construction is finished and hotel management is thrown into jail ;-) My recollection of the previous Vancouver meeting was that it worked very well. YMMV of course. That also applies more generally. The stuff that people complain about, like construction noise in Chicago or smoke in Prague -- we have to talk about what the likelihood of these things happening again on a repeat visit is. I'm 100% certain that if went back to Prague to the same hotel, they would be smoke free from day 1. And construction, presumably it does not last forever. A hotel that has not had construction trouble when we visited them might have construction next time. And one that did have it might be finished next time. So I'd focus more on the general layout of facilities (hotel, meeting rooms, restaurants), airline connections and ease of entrance, local IETF population potential, and so on. And frankly, I'm willing to be inconvenienced a bit if the sponsor wants to hold it at a specific location. Financing the meetings is important, too. Jari ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Hotel selection
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Changing the subject line due to topic drift. On Nov 28, 2007, at 11:45 PM, Dave Crocker wrote: We still seem to be constantly wandering into hotels for the first time, and somehow it's hard to believe that that doesn't cost the IETF a premium, if only in staff time learning the new place, especially for the net ops folk. I even wonder whether repeating among a small set of venues would not also lead to some relationship building between the different staffs, thereby making everything go a lot more smoothly? Well, that at least in part is what has led us to Minneapolis every two years or so, and to do a repeat at San Diego. It has historically been difficult, as we have wanted hosts to help us with certain costs, and they don't want to sign up every other year, and our practice of not signing up a long time in advance has also impeded that - they're often busy on the dates we pick. Pushing contracts further out should help with the latter. One question I would ask the peanut gallery is: if we were to pick a small set of venues to return to, which would we pick? The ones I might think of would include our recent venues in Paris and Prague, the Minneapolis Hilton, the facility we were at in Dallas last year (although restaurants weren't very convenient), the conference center and hotels we used in Yokohama, and maybe a few others. Which venues seemed to "work" from various folks' perspectives? Which really didn't? On this, if folks send me the response privately, I will summarize to the list. I really am interested in the response, but we probably don't need a DOS attack on all of our mail servers. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFHTkowbjEdbHIsm0MRApioAKCRcgqW7gvmhzn/wZgGZTdAFHS58QCdET8e kCyU/L9pT3V1v6uW0AzqlIA= =bS8D -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
