Re: Last Call: draft-mcwalter-langtag-mib (Language Tag MIB) to Proposed Standard

2007-03-05 Thread Russ Housley



 Since tags of 1 character are never well-formed, I suggest that the
 definition:

   SYNTAX  OCTET STRING (SIZE (0..60))

 be amended to exclude the 1-character case.  I assume that a zero-length
 tag, while also not defined in RFC 4646, was included in the I-D to
 allow the special case of no tag.

AFAIK, ASN.1 does not allow sizes like (0, 2..60).  I wouldn't even
bother with this change.


I tried this:

   FooString ::= OCTET STRING (SIZE (0 | 2..60))

And, it worked with two different ASN.1 compilers.

Russ


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Re: Last Call: draft-mcwalter-langtag-mib (Language Tag MIB) to Proposed Standard

2007-02-14 Thread John Cowan
Doug Ewell scripsit:

 Since tags of 1 character are never well-formed, I suggest that the 
 definition:
 
   SYNTAX  OCTET STRING (SIZE (0..60))
 
 be amended to exclude the 1-character case.  I assume that a zero-length 
 tag, while also not defined in RFC 4646, was included in the I-D to 
 allow the special case of no tag.

AFAIK, ASN.1 does not allow sizes like (0, 2..60).  I wouldn't even
bother with this change.

-- 
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Rather than making ill-conceived suggestions for improvement based on
uninformed guesses about established conventions in a field of study with
which familiarity is limited, it is sometimes better to stick to merely
observing the usage and listening to the explanations offered, inserting
only questions as needed to fill in gaps in understanding. --Peter Constable

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RE: Last Call: draft-mcwalter-langtag-mib (Language Tag MIB) to Proposed Standard

2007-02-14 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi -

From: McDonald, Ira [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Feb 11, 2007 4:15 AM
To: 'John Cowan' [EMAIL PROTECTED], Doug Ewell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], LTRU Working Group [EMAIL PROTECTED], ietf@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Ltru] Re: Last Call: draft-mcwalter-langtag-mib (Language Ta 
g MIB) to Proposed Standard

Hi,

Right - ASN.1 doesn't allow discontinuous integer ranges.
...

No.  In a SIZE qualifier, a discontiguous range is perfectly
legal ASN.1   There are examples of this in RFC 2579,
among others.  In this particular case, something like

SYNTAX  OCTET STRING (SIZE (0 | 2..60))

(replacing 60 with whatever the consensus upper bound
should be) would seem appropriate.

Randy

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Re: Last Call: draft-mcwalter-langtag-mib (Language Tag MIB) to Proposed Standard

2007-02-10 Thread Doug Ewell

The IESG iesg dash secretary at ietf dot org wrote:

The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to 
consider the following document:


- 'Language Tag MIB '
  draft-mcwalter-langtag-mib-01.txt as a Proposed Standard


This document defines a profile of RFC 4646 language tags for use in a 
particular application, by restricting the tags to lowercase and no more 
than 60 characters in length.


There is a recommended casing convention described in RFC 4646, section 
2.1 (e.g. hmn-Latn-LA), but tags are not intended to be 
case-sensitive, and applications such as this one may choose a different 
convention if it suits them.


Section 4.3 of RFC 4646 discusses tag length limitations and suggests a 
minimum length limit of 42 characters.  The proposed limit of 60 
characters in the I-D is greater than that minimum, and much greater 
than the likely maximum length of any non-private-use tag, and should 
pose no problem.


Since tags of 1 character are never well-formed, I suggest that the 
definition:


  SYNTAX  OCTET STRING (SIZE (0..60))

be amended to exclude the 1-character case.  I assume that a zero-length 
tag, while also not defined in RFC 4646, was included in the I-D to 
allow the special case of no tag.


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Re: Last Call: draft-mcwalter-langtag-mib (Language Tag MIB) to Proposed Standard

2007-02-09 Thread C. M. Heard

On Thu, 8 Feb 2007, The IESG wrote:

The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider
the following document:

- 'Language Tag MIB '
  draft-mcwalter-langtag-mib-01.txt as a Proposed Standard


The title seems to suggest that the document defines managed
objects for managing language tags, which is not the case.

In order to prevent confusion, I would recommend that the title
be changed to:

A Textual Convention for Representing Language Tags

In the same vein, I would recommend LANGTAG-TC-MIB for the module 
name and langTagTcMIB for the descriptor representing the 
MODULE-IDENTITY value.  Note that these recommendations are 
consistent with the (non-binding) advice in Appendix C of RFC 4181 
(the MIB review guidelines).


//cmh

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Last Call: draft-mcwalter-langtag-mib (Language Tag MIB) to Proposed Standard

2007-02-08 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider
the following document:

- 'Language Tag MIB '
   draft-mcwalter-langtag-mib-01.txt as a Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
final comments on this action.  Please send substantive comments to the
ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2007-03-08. Exceptionally, 
comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please 
retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.

The file can be obtained via
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-mcwalter-langtag-mib-01.txt


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