Re: Last Call: draft-wilde-text-fragment (URI Fragment Identifiers for the text/plain Media Type) to Proposed Standard

2007-07-07 Thread Martin Duerst
An updated version taking into account the various comments
received during Last Call is now available as
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-wilde-text-fragment-07.txt.

Most Last Call comments were editorial in nature, but one commenter
strongly, and in the end convincingly, argued that the spec was too
complicated.

As a consequence, we have removed two features:
1) Regular expressions
2) The possibility to list several scheme parts
   in a single fragment identifier.
As a result of this, fragments for text/plain can no longer
consist of disconnected pieces.

While we do not want to exclude bringing the removed functionality
back in a future version of the spec if there is clear demand for it,
we feel that the reduced set of features is best suited for speedy
implementation and deployment, and also matches the fact that
text/plain by itself is very simple and straightforward.

The area directors in charge (first Ted Hardie, now Chris Newman)
have advised us that they don't expect another Last Call for this
feature reduction, but that we should announce this change to this
list. If you have concerns about this feature reduction, in
particular if you already have implemented some of the features
we removed, please notify this list.

With kind regards, Martin.

At 09:40 07/02/15, The IESG wrote:
The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider
the following document:

- 'URI Fragment Identifiers for the text/plain Media Type '
   draft-wilde-text-fragment-06.txt as a Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
final comments on this action.  Please send substantive comments to the
ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2007-03-14. Exceptionally, 
comments may be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead. In either case, please 
retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.

The file can be obtained via
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-wilde-text-fragment-06.txt


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Re: Last Call: draft-wilde-text-fragment (URI Fragment Identifiers for the text/plain Media Type) to Proposed Standard

2007-02-15 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 07:40:16PM -0500,
 The IESG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
 a message of 24 lines which said:

 - 'URI Fragment Identifiers for the text/plain Media Type '
 draft-wilde-text-fragment-06.txt as a Proposed Standard

There are a few problems regarding the ABNF of this draft which have
been sent to the author, acknowledged but apparently not fixed in this
copy. I suggest another version before a last call. (That's apparently
what the author intended, froma private conversation.)



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Re: Last Call: draft-wilde-text-fragment (URI Fragment Identifiers for the text/plain Media Type) to Proposed Standard

2007-02-14 Thread Tim Bray

On 2/14/07, The IESG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider
the following document:

- 'URI Fragment Identifiers for the text/plain Media Type '
   draft-wilde-text-fragment-06.txt as a Proposed Standard


Editorial point:

Section 2.2.1 says Character position counting starts with 0, so the
character position
  before the first character of a text/plain MIME entity has the
  character position 0

but the example in section 5 says http://example.com/text.txt#char=100

  This URI identifies the position after the 100th character of the
  text.txt MIME entity.

If character counting starts at 0 I take it that the initial
character is the 0th character, thus char=100 is before not after the
100th, right?  In fact the spec is perfectly correct according to the
normal meaning of 100th but it took me a minute to get that, and I
suspect a little clean-up in the example description would be useful.

Substantive point:

Each of the addressing schemes is easy to understand, but the ways
they combine are hard to explain and understand, and I'm unconvinced
that being able to identify things like

  This URI identifies the first line and all occurrences of the regular
  expression 'searchterm' in the MIME entity.

are worth the effort.  I'd strongly recommend simplifying the spec by
allowing only one scheme, which might turn out to hit a very desirable
80/20 point.

 -Tim

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Last Call: draft-wilde-text-fragment (URI Fragment Identifiers for the text/plain Media Type) to Proposed Standard

2007-02-14 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider
the following document:

- 'URI Fragment Identifiers for the text/plain Media Type '
   draft-wilde-text-fragment-06.txt as a Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
final comments on this action.  Please send substantive comments to the
ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2007-03-14. Exceptionally, 
comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please 
retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.

The file can be obtained via
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-wilde-text-fragment-06.txt


IESG discussion can be tracked via
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