Re: Dedicated list for technical discussions
On Aug 28, 2010, at 18:06 , Mark Nottingham wrote: I know it's been brought up many times before, but I'd appreciate a separate list for technical discussions regarding drafts, etc., since this list seems to have become a travel tips forum. +1 ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Dedicated list for technical discussions
IETF in Rome? Do I need a visa, is there a subway? On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Mark Nottingham m...@mnot.net wrote: Touche. When in Rome... On 29/08/2010, at 6:12 PM, Glen Zorn wrote: Mark Nottingham [mailto://m...@mnot.net] writes: I know it's been brought up many times before, but I'd appreciate a separate list for technical discussions regarding drafts, etc., since this list seems to have become a travel tips forum. I'm sure that if you have some specific technical topics to discuss at least some of us would be willing to join in. I must note, however, that your own posts to this list over the last month or so have been about the Maastrict venue, IETF Logo wear and this complaint (not exactly rocket science ;-). ... -- Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf -- Website: http://hallambaker.com/ ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
RE: Dedicated list for technical discussions
On Sun Aug 29 09:12:31 2010, Glen Zorn wrote: Mark Nottingham [mailto://m...@mnot.net] writes: I know it's been brought up many times before, but I'd appreciate a separate list for technical discussions regarding drafts, etc., since this list seems to have become a travel tips forum. I'm sure that if you have some specific technical topics to discuss at least some of us would be willing to join in. I must note, however, that your own posts to this list over the last month or so have been about the Maastrict venue, IETF Logo wear and this complaint (not exactly rocket science ;-). I would note that these items are precisely the kinds of things that we, as an organization, are utterly ill-equipped to handle. We cannot use our tried and tested bureaucratic techniques to mitigate time-consuming discussion - we cannot insist people write a draft, propose a BOF, etc before actually discussing the issue. Therefore, I suggest - and quite seriously, as I assure you I would never joke about something so serious as this - that a new area be formed forthwith to tackle what's obviously more important than any mere technical issue. This new area - perhaps entitled the Hotel Organizational Logistic Strategies area, could be home to a number of key working groups, aimed at solving these fundamental issues that plague us all. With this in mind, I firmly look forward to seeing a requirements document for the area, such that we can progress by initiating BOFs, with a view to forming working groups to create further requirement documents. Dave. -- Dave Cridland - mailto:d...@cridland.net - xmpp:d...@dave.cridland.net - acap://acap.dave.cridland.net/byowner/user/dwd/bookmarks/ - http://dave.cridland.net/ Infotrope Polymer - ACAP, IMAP, ESMTP, and Lemonade ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Dedicated list for technical discussions
On 08/29/2010 08:17 EDT, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: IETF in Rome? Do I need a visa, is there a subway? and even a Pizza Hut ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
RE: Dedicated list for technical discussions
At 7:42 PM +0100 8/30/10, Dave Cridland wrote: I would note that these items are precisely the kinds of things that we, as an organization, are utterly ill-equipped to handle. We cannot use our tried and tested bureaucratic techniques to mitigate time-consuming discussion - we cannot insist people write a draft, propose a BOF, etc before actually discussing the issue. Therefore, I suggest - and quite seriously, as I assure you I would never joke about something so serious as this - that a new area be formed forthwith to tackle what's obviously more important than any mere technical issue. This new area - perhaps entitled the Hotel Organizational Logistic Strategies area, could be home to a number of key working groups, aimed at solving these fundamental issues that plague us all. Well, we have in the past dealt with process and organizational issues using a WG (although I can't recall which area). But I'm not sure we need a new area. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- If you attack stupidity you attack an entrenched interest with friends in government and every walk of public life, and you will make small progress against it. --Samuel Marchbanks ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Dedicated list for technical discussions
On Aug 30, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Randall Gellens wrote: Well, we have in the past dealt with process and organizational issues using a WG (although I can't recall which area). But I'm not sure we need a new area. These have been in the General area. Melinda ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
RE: Dedicated list for technical discussions
Mark Nottingham [mailto://m...@mnot.net] writes: I know it's been brought up many times before, but I'd appreciate a separate list for technical discussions regarding drafts, etc., since this list seems to have become a travel tips forum. I'm sure that if you have some specific technical topics to discuss at least some of us would be willing to join in. I must note, however, that your own posts to this list over the last month or so have been about the Maastrict venue, IETF Logo wear and this complaint (not exactly rocket science ;-). ... ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Dedicated list for technical discussions
Touche. When in Rome... On 29/08/2010, at 6:12 PM, Glen Zorn wrote: Mark Nottingham [mailto://m...@mnot.net] writes: I know it's been brought up many times before, but I'd appreciate a separate list for technical discussions regarding drafts, etc., since this list seems to have become a travel tips forum. I'm sure that if you have some specific technical topics to discuss at least some of us would be willing to join in. I must note, however, that your own posts to this list over the last month or so have been about the Maastrict venue, IETF Logo wear and this complaint (not exactly rocket science ;-). ... -- Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
