RE: Hotel selection

[Livingood, Jason]

 From: Fred Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 One question I would ask the peanut gallery is: if we were to 
 pick a small set of venues to return to, which would we pick? 
 The ones I might think of would include our recent venues in 
 Paris and Prague, the Minneapolis Hilton, the facility we 
 were at in Dallas last year (although restaurants weren't 
 very convenient)

I would actually vote strongly against venues such as the Dallas venue.
Given that we have over 1,000 people coming into each venue, it seems
odd to expect everyone to rent cars and otherwise go somewhere that is
relatively remote from other services.  

IMHO, ideal venues are in city centers, where people can walk from the
venue to a wide variety of other hotels and restaurants, and where
public transportation is available to connect between airports and
regional rail systems and to other parts of the venue's city.  This
tends to decrease the travel costs and hassles for attendees, among
other benefits.

Jason

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Re: Hotel selection

[Jari Arkko]

Fred,

I sent a private list of what worked, but I also wanted to point out out
something:

 Which venues seemed to work from various folks' perspectives?

Vancouver might actually be on that list, after construction is finished
and hotel management is thrown into jail ;-) My recollection of the
previous Vancouver meeting was that it worked very well. YMMV of course.

That also applies more generally. The stuff that people complain about,
like construction noise in Chicago or smoke in Prague -- we have to talk
about what the likelihood of these things happening again on a repeat
visit is. I'm 100% certain that if went back to Prague to the same
hotel, they would be smoke free from day 1. And construction, presumably
it does not last forever. A hotel that has not had construction trouble
when we visited them might have construction next time. And one that did
have it might be finished next time.

So I'd focus more on the general layout of facilities (hotel, meeting
rooms, restaurants), airline connections and ease of entrance, local
IETF population potential, and so on. And frankly, I'm willing to be
inconvenienced a bit if the sponsor wants to hold it at a specific
location. Financing the meetings is important, too.

Jari


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