Re: IETF attendees reengineer their hotel's Wi-Fi network

[Michael Richardson]

 Wes == Wes George George writes:
Wes I had recommended separately on the attendees list that perhaps
Wes Chelliot and his merry band of supernerds need to write an
Wes informational or BCP draft, accompanied by a round of *NOG
Wes presentations to share the wealth, as documentation in this
Wes area appears a bit sparse -- I've been to plenty of other
Wes conferences where the wireless network melted down in the
Wes hotel, conference itself or both. In response, Joel Jaeggli
Wes pointed to a NANOG presentation that is so old that it's still

It's a lot of work for someone who isn't getting paid for it.

I'd like to see some hotel chains commission this.


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RE: IETF attendees reengineer their hotel's Wi-Fi network

[George, Wes]

I had recommended separately on the attendees list that perhaps Chelliot and 
his merry band of supernerds need to write an informational or BCP draft, 
accompanied by a round of *NOG presentations to share the wealth, as 
documentation in this area appears a bit sparse -- I've been to plenty of other 
conferences where the wireless network melted down in the hotel, conference 
itself or both. In response, Joel Jaeggli pointed to a NANOG presentation that 
is so old that it's still talking about 802.11G (and A) as a future thing, and 
the network in question was probably dealing with half or less of the devices 
that a modern one must do (no wi-fi phones, tablets, etc). So while the 
fundamentals of dealing with RF frequency overlap and power probably haven't 
changed much, I think that perhaps we're due for an update on the experience of 
managing and optimizing large-scale conference/hotel WiFi networks, especially 
the part about the tools that you use that enable you to re-engineer a network 
of that size on the fly (aside from pure awesome and lack of sleep, that 
is). :-)

Thanks,

Wes


 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Raszuk [mailto:rob...@raszuk.net]
 Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 5:44 PM
 To: George, Wes
 Cc: IETF Discussion
 Subject: Fwd: IETF attendees reengineer their hotel's Wi-Fi network

 Hi Wes,

 Could we perhaps add a section to your draft
 (draft-george-travel-faq-05.txt) on how to fix wifi network in the hotel
 you are staying ?

 Pointer to set of open source wifi troubleshooting tools would be
 welcome too ;)

 Cheers,
 R.

  Original Message 
 Subject: IETF attendees reengineer their hotel's Wi-Fi network
 Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:28:26 -0400
 From: Russ Housley hous...@vigilsec.com
 To: IETF ietf@ietf.org

 Disgusted IETF attendees reengineer their Paris hotel's Wi-Fi network
 What happens when a bunch of IETF super nerds show up in Paris for a
 major conference and discover their hotel's Wi-Fi network has imploded?

 http://newsletters.networkworld.com/t/6464858/258923304/355639/0/




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