Re: Rationale for public, non-subscribable mailing lists
* Brian E. Carpenter: Because IETF teams should operate in public view as much as possible, and particularly teams whose main job is document review. But by simple logic, only team *members* will actually be on the list. Okay, you're using Mailman to administrate team membership. Let me say that I think this is a bit bizarre, but it's some sort of technical reason. (Other organizations keep team rosters and mailinglist membership separate.) Thanks for the explanation. ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Rationale for public, non-subscribable mailing lists
Florian Weimer writes: Okay, you're using Mailman to administrate team membership. Let me say that I think this is a bit bizarre, but it's some sort of technical reason. (Other organizations keep team rosters and mailinglist membership separate.) The IETF doesn't have members, it has participants. See? Arnt ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Rationale for public, non-subscribable mailing lists
* Arnt Gulbrandsen: Florian Weimer writes: Okay, you're using Mailman to administrate team membership. Let me say that I think this is a bit bizarre, but it's some sort of technical reason. (Other organizations keep team rosters and mailinglist membership separate.) The IETF doesn't have members, it has participants. See? Some participants are members, viz: | For a list of the current directorate members, see the [begin | link]list of subscribers to the secdir mailing list[end link]. http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/sec/trac/wiki/SecurityDirectorate ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Rationale for public, non-subscribable mailing lists
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Arnt Gulbrandsen a...@gulbrandsen.priv.no wrote: Florian Weimer writes: Okay, you're using Mailman to administrate team membership. Let me say that I think this is a bit bizarre, but it's some sort of technical reason. (Other organizations keep team rosters and mailinglist membership separate.) The IETF doesn't have members, it has participants. See? Correct. The IETF and IETF Working Groups have no defined membership. However, various IETF bodies such as the IAB, IESG, nomcom, directorates set up by areas, etc., do have precise defined membership. Arnt Donald ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Rationale for public, non-subscribable mailing lists
I've recently tried to subscribe to the SECDIR list. Apparently, this list is public (it's archived on the web), but one cannot subscribe to it. The question is: Why would anyone configure things this way? It's really, really odd. (It was suggested to me that I posted something to the SECDIR list, that's why I tried to subscribe to it first. It's not that I care very much about this particular mailing list. I'm just curious about the phenomenon in general.) ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Rationale for public, non-subscribable mailing lists
On 2010-04-19 08:29, Florian Weimer wrote: I've recently tried to subscribe to the SECDIR list. Apparently, this list is public (it's archived on the web), but one cannot subscribe to it. The question is: Why would anyone configure things this way? It's really, really odd. (It was suggested to me that I posted something to the SECDIR list, that's why I tried to subscribe to it first. It's not that I care very much about this particular mailing list. I'm just curious about the phenomenon in general.) Because IETF teams should operate in public view as much as possible, and particularly teams whose main job is document review. But by simple logic, only team *members* will actually be on the list. I agree, it occasionally leads to list moderation issues. Brian ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
