Re: Defining Internet services/service levels?
Hi, We worked, in our research group, on the definition and specification of the "services" since 1990. We specified the equipments level services (switching, CPU time, ...), the network level services (classification, resources reservation, ..), applicative level services (service elements, IN like services, NGOSS, ..) and recently the user level services (user demand grides, ..). We validated our reflexions and models through divers platforms with several indutrial companies. The results of our works is published in many conferences and journals. We would be pleased to contribute to the definition of the Internet services within the IETF. Regards, Tarek Nadour. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 21:29:37 +0200, Hadmut Danisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: OK, there was some discussion about different levels of Internet services and categories. So should the IETF publish a definition? There's discussion in progress off-list. The problem is that although it's probably feasible to get a consensus on the definitions within the IETF, it's unclear how to phrase it so that the people who actually need the definitions can use them. "This planet has - or rather had - a problem, which was this: most of the people living on it were unhappy for pretty much of the time. Many solutions were suggested for this problem, but most of these were largely concerned with the movements of small green pieces of paper, which is odd because on the whole it wasn't the small green pieces of paper that were unhappy" -- Douglas Adams ___ Ietf mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ___ Ietf mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Defining Internet services/service levels?
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 21:29:37 +0200, Hadmut Danisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: OK, there was some discussion about different levels of Internet services and categories. So should the IETF publish a definition? There's discussion in progress off-list. The problem is that although it's probably feasible to get a consensus on the definitions within the IETF, it's unclear how to phrase it so that the people who actually need the definitions can use them. This planet has - or rather had - a problem, which was this: most of the people living on it were unhappy for pretty much of the time. Many solutions were suggested for this problem, but most of these were largely concerned with the movements of small green pieces of paper, which is odd because on the whole it wasn't the small green pieces of paper that were unhappy -- Douglas Adams pgp9e9Cx07HKh.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Ietf mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Defining Internet services/service levels?
At 9:29 PM +0200 6/23/04, Hadmut Danisch wrote: OK, there was some discussion about different levels of Internet services and categories. So should the IETF publish a definition? No: it's not the kind of engineering we do best. Yes: we are about the only group that can get the level of review needed to prevent such a document from being a puff piece from ISPs. No: it's about offering of protocols, not how the protocols work Yes: Having an Informational RFC (it should not be labelled best current practice) on this would be useful to the Internet community. Proposal: Create a personal Internet Draft. Create a mailing list for discussing the draft. Announce the mailing list here. Cycle a few times. Announce what you think is the last version year. Probably cycle once or twice more. Turn it in to the RFC Editor as a personal submission. --Paul Hoffman, Director --VPN Consortium ___ Ietf mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
