Re: IETF66 - Recommendations for travel from airport to hotels?
I took a cab. fixed price, $35 Canadian, gets you there no muss no fuss. On Jul 7, 2006, at 10:29 PM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: On 6-jul-2006, at 3:08, Elwyn Davies wrote: Airport shuttles: Unfortunately the Delta doesn't seem to qualify for a free shuttle. The nearest is probably the Queen Elizabeth (900 boulevard Rene-levesque Ouest) which is about 0.25 mile from the Delta.. This doesn't involve taking a second 'free' shuttle as the main, paid-for, shuttle stops here on the way to the central bus station. After spending nearly an entire day in airport lounges and in the air I may not have been operating at peak efficiency, but I must say that the ground transportation situation at the Montreal airport is about as bad as it gets. There are no clues to be had for the traveller who didn't plan ahead in great detail, so I ended up taking a cab, which is so popular that you have to wait in line for one. Good thing some British pounds I had laying around go a long way towards purchasing Canadian dollars (that have the same queen on them). There is a fixed airport - city rate of $35. If and when the IETF finally returns to Holland everyone can enjoy the advantages of having a train station with regular and cheap connections in all directions right under the arrivals hall. ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: IETF66 - Recommendations for travel from airport to hotels?
On 6-jul-2006, at 3:08, Elwyn Davies wrote: Airport shuttles: Unfortunately the Delta doesn't seem to qualify for a free shuttle. The nearest is probably the Queen Elizabeth (900 boulevard Rene-levesque Ouest) which is about 0.25 mile from the Delta.. This doesn't involve taking a second 'free' shuttle as the main, paid-for, shuttle stops here on the way to the central bus station. After spending nearly an entire day in airport lounges and in the air I may not have been operating at peak efficiency, but I must say that the ground transportation situation at the Montreal airport is about as bad as it gets. There are no clues to be had for the traveller who didn't plan ahead in great detail, so I ended up taking a cab, which is so popular that you have to wait in line for one. Good thing some British pounds I had laying around go a long way towards purchasing Canadian dollars (that have the same queen on them). There is a fixed airport - city rate of $35. If and when the IETF finally returns to Holland everyone can enjoy the advantages of having a train station with regular and cheap connections in all directions right under the arrivals hall. ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: IETF66 - Recommendations for travel from airport to hotels?
Minor clarification in case your ethics are troubling you... Elwyn Davies wrote: Airport shuttles: Unfortunately the Delta doesn't seem to qualify for a free shuttle. The nearest is probably the Queen Elizabeth (900 boulevard Rene-levesque Ouest) which is about 0.25 mile from the Delta.. This doesn't involve taking a second 'free' shuttle as the main, paid-for, shuttle stops here on the way to the central bus station. Alternatives include riding to the central bus station and taking the metro (Orange Line, direction Cote Vertu) three stops from the metro station at Berri-UQAM (under the bus station) to Square Victoria - this station has an exit either in or right in front of the Delta. (Place D'Armes will be better for the hotels closer to the Palais des Congres) Shuttles run approx every 25-35 minutes and are scheduled to take about 40 minutes. BTW for the seriously lazy, the Palais des Congres is on top of the Place D'Armes metro stop which is one stop back towards the central bus station from Square Victoria There are regional commuter trains out to Dorval but the service is seriously sparse at the weekend and just as bad outside of early morning inbound and evening rush hour outbound. Forget it. Fares: Airport shuttle - one way 13 CAD, return 22.75 CAD Metro: per trip any distance (I assume): 2.50 CAD single trip, 11.50 CAD for a six trip card, one day and three day tourist passes available. Tickets sold at stations or on buses (on buses exact change only) Handy links: Airport shuttle bus: http://www.autobus.qc.ca/anglais/aeroportuaire_an.html Useful handily zoomable map of the centre of Montreal (probably the best online city map I have ever seen!): http://www.stcum.qc.ca/English/info/centre-ville2006.pdf The whole city map is much bigger but equally good: http://www.stcum.qc.ca/English/info/reseau2006.pdf Metro map: http://www.stcum.qc.ca/English/metro/a-mapmet.htm - click on any station for local info including a large scale map with station entrance/exit points marked. Bus/metro fares: http://www.stcum.qc.ca/English/info/a-tarif.htm Montreal transport home page: http://www.stcum.qc.ca/English/a-somm.htm Regards, Elwyn ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: IETF66 - Recommendations for travel from airport to hotels?
The IAD has just confirmed to me that this is in our contract - if you booked in the IETF block, please insist with the hotel. Brian Henrik Levkowetz wrote: on 2006-07-06 00:57 Elwyn Davies said the following: Allegedly, if you have a booking in the IETF block, the Internet connection is included for free. I've arrived and checked into the Delta. The internet for the IETF-block of rooms and dates is free, but this is not automatically the case for additional days outside the June 7 -- June 15 period. I asked to have internet included also for the additional days, and got it. Henrik /Elwyn At the Delta Hotel there is no wireless in my room. There is a wired connection for CDN$9.95 per 24 hours which has a reasonable bandwidth at the current load. Jeffrey Altman ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
RE: IETF66 - Recommendations for travel from airport to hotels?
At 9:42 +0800 7/5/06, Miao Fuyou wrote: A taxi ride from anywhere in town to Trudeau Airport costs a flat rate of $31. In April (last time I went there), it was Canadian $35, a flat rate (no meter). Canadian $35 is about US $31.50 (today's rate). You can share rides in cabs (i.e., two ride for the same price). -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Edward Lewis+1-571-434-5468 NeuStar Soccer/Futbol. IPv6. Both have lots of 1's and 0's and have a hard time catching on in North America. That tournament in Germany. What's all the fuss? (Get it? fuss?) ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: IETF66 - Recommendations for travel from airport to hotels?
Why not just googling? I entered aerobus and montreal at Google, and found the following link. http://www.admtl.com/passenger_services.aspx?id=48 If this is correct, the aerobus takes us to a few points in downtown from which we can take free shuttle to hotels. Nelson, David wrote: Aerobus shuttle bus service runs from the downtown bus terminal (514-842-2281) with several stops before taking the highway. Fares are lower than taxis: $12 to or from Trudeau. And from the bus terminal to the hotel? Presumably taxi or city bus? Any other alternatives? Are they any shuttle busses from the airport that make stops at the downtown hotels? ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: IETF66 - Recommendations for travel from airport to hotels?
The Aerobus runs from the airport to the central bus terminal and costs C$13 OW, $22.75 RT. From the central bus terminal there are free shuttles to most downtown hotels. The web site tells all: http://www.autobus.qc.ca/anglais/aeroportuaire_an.html As far as getting from the hotel to the conference centre, if it were the middle of the winter and freezing slush were falling from the heavens, the underground passages would be pretty nice. But since the weather for next week will have highs in the 20s, go outside and walk unless it's raining. R's, John ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: IETF66 - Recommendations for travel from airport to hotels?
I have arrived in Montreal. The taxi to the Delta is now CDN$35. There are airport shuttles into Montreal for CDN$13 but you would then need to take a taxi from the bus terminal to the hotel on the meter. Public transportation is also available but the travel time will be well over an hour. The travel at 17:20 in rush hour took approximately 20 minutes in the taxi. At the Delta Hotel there is no wireless in my room. There is a wired connection for CDN$9.95 per 24 hours which has a reasonable bandwidth at the current load. Jeffrey Altman Miao Fuyou wrote: The following information is from http://www.montreal.com/tourism/general.html . Airports: Pierre Elliott Trudeau International, 22 km west of downtown, now serves all domestic, U.S. and international passenger flights. Mirabel International, 55 km northwest of downtown, serves only cargo flights now. A taxi ride from anywhere in town to Trudeau Airport costs a flat rate of $31. Aerobus shuttle bus service runs from the downtown bus terminal (514-842-2281) with several stops before taking the highway. Fares are lower than taxis: $12 to or from Trudeau. It is also possible to get to Trudeau Airport by taking regular city buses: the 211 and the 204 will get you there from downtown, but the 211 could be tricky with a lot of baggage at busy times of day. Hope it helps! -Original Message- From: YAO Jiankang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 9:11 AM To: Jeffrey Altman; ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: IETF66 - Recommendations for travel from airport to hotels? someone told me that the cost from YUL airport to montreal downtown is about canadian 35 $. it seems that there was no shuttle bus to the hotel. It is better that IETF can recommend some good travel methods from airport to downtown hotels. Yao Jianakng - Original Message - From: Jeffrey Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 8:00 AM Subject: IETF66 - Recommendations for travel from airport to hotels? ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: IETF66 - Recommendations for travel from airport to hotels?
Airport shuttles: Unfortunately the Delta doesn't seem to qualify for a free shuttle. The nearest is probably the Queen Elizabeth (900 boulevard Rene-levesque Ouest) which is about 0.25 mile from the Delta.. Alternatives include riding to the central bus station and taking the metro (Orange Line, direction Cote Vertu) three stops from the metro station at Berri-UQAM (under the bus station) to Square Victoria - this station has an exit either in or right in front of the Delta. (Place D'Armes will be better for the hotels closer to the Palais des Congres) Shuttles run approx every 25-35 minutes and are scheduled to take about 40 minutes. BTW for the seriously lazy, the Palais des Congres is on top of the Place D'Armes metro stop which is one stop back towards the central bus station from Square Victoria There are regional commuter trains out to Dorval but the service is seriously sparse at the weekend and just as bad outside of early morning inbound and evening rush hour outbound. Forget it. Fares: Airport shuttle - one way 13 CAD, return 22.75 CAD Metro: per trip any distance (I assume): 2.50 CAD single trip, 11.50 CAD for a six trip card, one day and three day tourist passes available. Tickets sold at stations or on buses (on buses exact change only) Handy links: Airport shuttle bus: http://www.autobus.qc.ca/anglais/aeroportuaire_an.html Useful handily zoomable map of the centre of Montreal (probably the best online city map I have ever seen!): http://www.stcum.qc.ca/English/info/centre-ville2006.pdf The whole city map is much bigger but equally good: http://www.stcum.qc.ca/English/info/reseau2006.pdf Metro map: http://www.stcum.qc.ca/English/metro/a-mapmet.htm - click on any station for local info including a large scale map with station entrance/exit points marked. Bus/metro fares: http://www.stcum.qc.ca/English/info/a-tarif.htm Montreal transport home page: http://www.stcum.qc.ca/English/a-somm.htm Regards, Elwyn ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: IETF66 - Recommendations for travel from airport to hotels?
Unfortunately the Delta doesn't seem to qualify for a free shuttle. The nearest is probably the Queen Elizabeth (900 boulevard Rene-levesque Ouest) which is about 0.25 mile from the Delta.. Alternatives include riding to the central bus station and taking the metro (Orange Line, direction Cote Vertu) three stops from the metro station at Berri-UQAM (under the bus station) to Square Victoria - this station has an exit either in or right in front of the Delta. (Place D'Armes will be better for the hotels closer to the Palais des Congres) Shuttles run approx every 25-35 minutes and are scheduled to take about 40 minutes. BTW for the seriously lazy, the Palais des Congres is on top of the Place D'Armes metro stop which is one stop back towards the central bus station from Square Victoria There are regional commuter trains out to Dorval but the service is seriously sparse at the weekend and just as bad outside of early morning inbound and evening rush hour outbound. Forget it. Fares: Airport shuttle - one way 13 CAD, return 22.75 CAD Metro: per trip any distance (I assume): 2.50 CAD single trip, 11.50 CAD for a six trip card, one day and three day tourist passes available. Tickets sold at stations or on buses (on buses exact change only) Handy links: Airport shuttle bus: http://www.autobus.qc.ca/anglais/aeroportuaire_an.html Useful handily zoomable map of the centre of Montreal (probably the best online city map I have ever seen!): http://www.stcum.qc.ca/English/info/centre-ville2006.pdf The whole city map is much bigger but equally good: http://www.stcum.qc.ca/English/info/reseau2006.pdf Metro map: http://www.stcum.qc.ca/English/metro/a-mapmet.htm - click on any station for local info including a large scale map with station entrance/exit points marked. Bus/metro fares: http://www.stcum.qc.ca/English/info/a-tarif.htm Montreal transport home page: http://www.stcum.qc.ca/English/a-somm.htm Regards, Elwyn Yangwoo Ko wrote: Why not just googling? I entered aerobus and montreal at Google, and found the following link. http://www.admtl.com/passenger_services.aspx?id=48 If this is correct, the aerobus takes us to a few points in downtown from which we can take free shuttle to hotels. Nelson, David wrote: Aerobus shuttle bus service runs from the downtown bus terminal (514-842-2281) with several stops before taking the highway. Fares are lower than taxis: $12 to or from Trudeau. And from the bus terminal to the hotel? Presumably taxi or city bus? Any other alternatives? Are they any shuttle busses from the airport that make stops at the downtown hotels? ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: IETF66 - Recommendations for travel from airport to hotels?
on 2006-07-06 00:57 Elwyn Davies said the following: Allegedly, if you have a booking in the IETF block, the Internet connection is included for free. I've arrived and checked into the Delta. The internet for the IETF-block of rooms and dates is free, but this is not automatically the case for additional days outside the June 7 -- June 15 period. I asked to have internet included also for the additional days, and got it. Henrik /Elwyn At the Delta Hotel there is no wireless in my room. There is a wired connection for CDN$9.95 per 24 hours which has a reasonable bandwidth at the current load. Jeffrey Altman ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: IETF66 - Recommendations for travel from airport to hotels?
someone told me that the cost from YUL airport to montreal downtown is about canadian 35 $. it seems that there was no shuttle bus to the hotel. It is better that IETF can recommend some good travel methods from airport to downtown hotels. Yao Jianakng - Original Message - From: Jeffrey Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 8:00 AM Subject: IETF66 - Recommendations for travel from airport to hotels? ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
RE: IETF66 - Recommendations for travel from airport to hotels?
The following information is from http://www.montreal.com/tourism/general.html . Airports: Pierre Elliott Trudeau International, 22 km west of downtown, now serves all domestic, U.S. and international passenger flights. Mirabel International, 55 km northwest of downtown, serves only cargo flights now. A taxi ride from anywhere in town to Trudeau Airport costs a flat rate of $31. Aerobus shuttle bus service runs from the downtown bus terminal (514-842-2281) with several stops before taking the highway. Fares are lower than taxis: $12 to or from Trudeau. It is also possible to get to Trudeau Airport by taking regular city buses: the 211 and the 204 will get you there from downtown, but the 211 could be tricky with a lot of baggage at busy times of day. Hope it helps! -Original Message- From: YAO Jiankang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 9:11 AM To: Jeffrey Altman; ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: IETF66 - Recommendations for travel from airport to hotels? someone told me that the cost from YUL airport to montreal downtown is about canadian 35 $. it seems that there was no shuttle bus to the hotel. It is better that IETF can recommend some good travel methods from airport to downtown hotels. Yao Jianakng - Original Message - From: Jeffrey Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 8:00 AM Subject: IETF66 - Recommendations for travel from airport to hotels? ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf