Additional Jabber Rooms to be added at 7:00 p.m. Easter Time (1 minute downtime)
New Jabber Rooms for BOF’s: offpath rtpsec dmsp wai Moving forward we will request all jabber room changes two weeks before each event. Thanks!! NSS ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: No jabber rooms for BOFs?
On 7/10/06 6:10 PM, "Kurt D. Zeilenga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You can borrow a room from an old WG/BOF (e.g., > ldup) in a pinch. Right, but there's a rendezvous problem that particularly affects those of us who are off-site. However, midcom will not be meeting in Montreal, and if a BOF finds itself jabber-room-less they should feel free to make use of it. Melinda ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: No jabber rooms for BOFs?
At 05:43 PM 7/10/2006, Melinda Shore wrote: >No Jabber rooms for BOFs! You can borrow a room from an old WG/BOF (e.g., ldup) in a pinch. - Kurt ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
No jabber rooms for BOFs?
No Jabber rooms for BOFs! Thanks, Melinda ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: jabber rooms
My humor sense is non-existing, so definitively I'M NOT JOKING. Furthermore, in my opinion, this list is not to make any kind of jokes. Right now in the MIP6 meeting, it took to me more than 1 hour to be able to get access to my email server to send a couple of very urgent emails. The result of this is that, as you need to keep going with the daily work, we may need to skip some of the sessions and lower the number of attendees and contributors to IETF. I hope this is not the trend in future meetings. We need a stable network and again, if it will be weak in terms of supporting a given technology, needs to be know in advance. Regards, Jordi > De: Joel Jaeggli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Responder a: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Fecha: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 10:22:11 -0800 (PST) > Para: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: "ietf@ietf.org" > Asunto: Re: jabber rooms > > On Wed, 9 Nov 2005, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: > >> I was considering myself doing the same, but ... Some people use laptops >> with integrated b or b/g cards and not sure if is so easy to find a couple >> of bucks card with includes drivers for all the OSs (example Mac OS X). >> >> In any case, my point of view is: >> 1) We should be advised even BEFORE the meeting registration is open, if the >> network will be weak or even worst in the support of any given widespread >> technology. > > You're kidding right? No host that I'm aware of ever set-out to build a > poorly performing wireless network. From my perspective, with the > exception of some spatially and temporarly localized issues the big > problems have have been solved since tuesday morning. > >> 2) The network is a service for the participants, and consequently should be >> adapted to them, NEVER the participants adapt to the network ! If for >> whatever reason this happens, enough spare cards for the available >> technology with support of widespread OSs, should be made available on-site. >> >> Furthermore, the IPv6 availability has not been stable, and IPv6 today is >> NOT an experiment, is a real need. > > The ssh I've had up to 2001:468:d01:a2::80df:a2 has been up for one day > 1:35. Perhaps your ipv6 availability is tied to any link-layer > availability problem you have. > >> Regards, >> Jordi >> >> >> >> >>> De: Carsten Bormann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Responder a: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Fecha: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 09:47:59 -0800 >>> Para: John C Klensin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> CC: Carsten Bormann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, IETF discussion list >>> >>> Asunto: Re: jabber rooms >>> >>> On Nov 09 2005, at 06:27 Uhr, John C Klensin wrote: >>> >>>> I've only occasionally found the network stable enough >>> >>> At the danger of spilling the beans: >>> >>> Once I switched may laptop to .11a, the network has been rock-solid. >>> (I ran a ping yesterday, and it did not lose *a single packet* on the >>> wireless over a period of hours.) >>> >>> Gruesse, Carsten >>> >>> PS.: I bought my .11a card on Ebay for a couple bucks :-) >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Ietf mailing list >>> Ietf@ietf.org >>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf >> >> >> >> >> >> The IPv6 Portal: http://www.ipv6tf.org >> >> Barcelona 2005 Global IPv6 Summit >> Information available at: >> http://www.ipv6-es.com >> >> This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or >> confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the >> individual(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient be aware >> that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this >> information, including attached files, is prohibited. >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Ietf mailing list >> Ietf@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf >> > > -- > -- > Joel Jaeggli Unix Consulting [EMAIL PROTECTED] > GPG Key Fingerprint: 5C6E 0104 BAF0 40B0 5BD3 C38B F000 35AB B67F 56B2 > > > ___ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf The IPv6 Portal: http://www.ipv6tf.org Barcelona 2005 Global IPv6 Summit Information available at: http://www.ipv6-es.com This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, including attached files, is prohibited. ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
RE: jabber rooms
Gents ... Could you send me a quick note on what sessions (day, time, room) you had the most recent problems in? I was scribe (on jabber) during the Techspec BOF this morning, and nobody had problems there. I will pass along any specifics you can give me to the NOC team. Thanks in advance, Ed -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Hinden Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 12:30 PM To: John C Klensin Cc: IETF discussion list Subject: Re: jabber rooms John, > reminders may not have been noticed -- I've only occasionally found > the network stable enough in the meeting sessions to make use of > jabber rooms effective and useful in following what is going on. I agree. In the IPv6 w.g. session our jabber scribe couldn't do anything useful. Bob ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: jabber rooms
On Wed, 9 Nov 2005, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: I was considering myself doing the same, but ... Some people use laptops with integrated b or b/g cards and not sure if is so easy to find a couple of bucks card with includes drivers for all the OSs (example Mac OS X). In any case, my point of view is: 1) We should be advised even BEFORE the meeting registration is open, if the network will be weak or even worst in the support of any given widespread technology. You're kidding right? No host that I'm aware of ever set-out to build a poorly performing wireless network. From my perspective, with the exception of some spatially and temporarly localized issues the big problems have have been solved since tuesday morning. 2) The network is a service for the participants, and consequently should be adapted to them, NEVER the participants adapt to the network ! If for whatever reason this happens, enough spare cards for the available technology with support of widespread OSs, should be made available on-site. Furthermore, the IPv6 availability has not been stable, and IPv6 today is NOT an experiment, is a real need. The ssh I've had up to 2001:468:d01:a2::80df:a2 has been up for one day 1:35. Perhaps your ipv6 availability is tied to any link-layer availability problem you have. Regards, Jordi De: Carsten Bormann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Responder a: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fecha: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 09:47:59 -0800 Para: John C Klensin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: Carsten Bormann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, IETF discussion list Asunto: Re: jabber rooms On Nov 09 2005, at 06:27 Uhr, John C Klensin wrote: I've only occasionally found the network stable enough At the danger of spilling the beans: Once I switched may laptop to .11a, the network has been rock-solid. (I ran a ping yesterday, and it did not lose *a single packet* on the wireless over a period of hours.) Gruesse, Carsten PS.: I bought my .11a card on Ebay for a couple bucks :-) ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf The IPv6 Portal: http://www.ipv6tf.org Barcelona 2005 Global IPv6 Summit Information available at: http://www.ipv6-es.com This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, including attached files, is prohibited. ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf -- -- Joel Jaeggli Unix Consulting [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Key Fingerprint: 5C6E 0104 BAF0 40B0 5BD3 C38B F000 35AB B67F 56B2 ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Vancouver IETF network; bogus IPv6 RAs [was: Re: jabber rooms]
John C Klensin writes: > I hypothesize that there have been few complaints this week for the > same reason that the absence of jabber room reminders may not have > been noticed -- I've only occasionally found the network stable > enough in the meeting sessions to make use of jabber rooms effective > and useful in following what is going on. That may only be half of the truth... the others don't complain because they have 802.11a (5GHz) cards and found that the network has been working great for them this week. Of course they won't talk about that either, because one of the reasons why 802.11a works so well is that its users are still in the minority. For me, IPv4 connectivity from the meeting to my "home" network in Europe has been very good, and IPv6 connectivity even better. The only problem I had with IPv6 was the usual one: bogus IPv6 Router Advertisements from laptops configured as 6to4 routers. Right now these bogus RAs all seem to be coming from IPv6 link-local address fe80::204:23ff:fe7a:fb3e (MAC address 00:04:23:7A:FB:3E). Googling these addresses shows that the same address was active at IETF62 and IETF63. Hm, maybe we should track that one down next time... Anyway, I finally learned how to configure filters on my Linux laptop, and found that the following command (as root) makes my box ignore RAs from that particular address: ip6tables -A INPUT -s fe80::204:23ff:fe7a:fb3e \ --protocol ipv6-icmp --icmpv6-type router-advertisement \ -j DROP Hope this is helpful to some, -- Simon. ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: jabber rooms
I was considering myself doing the same, but ... Some people use laptops with integrated b or b/g cards and not sure if is so easy to find a couple of bucks card with includes drivers for all the OSs (example Mac OS X). In any case, my point of view is: 1) We should be advised even BEFORE the meeting registration is open, if the network will be weak or even worst in the support of any given widespread technology. 2) The network is a service for the participants, and consequently should be adapted to them, NEVER the participants adapt to the network ! If for whatever reason this happens, enough spare cards for the available technology with support of widespread OSs, should be made available on-site. Furthermore, the IPv6 availability has not been stable, and IPv6 today is NOT an experiment, is a real need. Regards, Jordi > De: Carsten Bormann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Responder a: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Fecha: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 09:47:59 -0800 > Para: John C Klensin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: Carsten Bormann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, IETF discussion list > Asunto: Re: jabber rooms > > On Nov 09 2005, at 06:27 Uhr, John C Klensin wrote: > >> I've only occasionally found the network stable enough > > At the danger of spilling the beans: > > Once I switched may laptop to .11a, the network has been rock-solid. > (I ran a ping yesterday, and it did not lose *a single packet* on the > wireless over a period of hours.) > > Gruesse, Carsten > > PS.: I bought my .11a card on Ebay for a couple bucks :-) > > > ___ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf The IPv6 Portal: http://www.ipv6tf.org Barcelona 2005 Global IPv6 Summit Information available at: http://www.ipv6-es.com This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, including attached files, is prohibited. ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: jabber rooms
On Nov 09 2005, at 06:27 Uhr, John C Klensin wrote: I've only occasionally found the network stable enough At the danger of spilling the beans: Once I switched may laptop to .11a, the network has been rock-solid. (I ran a ping yesterday, and it did not lose *a single packet* on the wireless over a period of hours.) Gruesse, Carsten PS.: I bought my .11a card on Ebay for a couple bucks :-) ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: jabber rooms
John, reminders may not have been noticed -- I've only occasionally found the network stable enough in the meeting sessions to make use of jabber rooms effective and useful in following what is going on. I agree. In the IPv6 w.g. session our jabber scribe couldn't do anything useful. Bob ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: jabber rooms
On Nov 9, 2005, at 6:27, John C Klensin wrote: --On Wednesday, November 09, 2005 04:05 +0100 Brian E Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't think I've seen a reminder this week that jabber room for the XXX WG or BOF is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian, I commented to someone last night night that, usually, at this point in an IETF week, the list has been treated to a greater or lesser degree of whining about network quality and availability. We haven't seen any of those messages this week. I hypothesize that there have been few complaints this week for the same reason that the absence of jabber room reminders may not have been noticed -- I've only occasionally found the network stable enough in the meeting sessions to make use of jabber rooms effective and useful in following what is going on. john the absence of a NOC@ address for reporting problems has been noticed as well... --bill ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: jabber rooms
--On Wednesday, November 09, 2005 04:05 +0100 Brian E Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't think I've seen a reminder this week that jabber room for the XXX WG or BOF is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian, I commented to someone last night night that, usually, at this point in an IETF week, the list has been treated to a greater or lesser degree of whining about network quality and availability. We haven't seen any of those messages this week. I hypothesize that there have been few complaints this week for the same reason that the absence of jabber room reminders may not have been noticed -- I've only occasionally found the network stable enough in the meeting sessions to make use of jabber rooms effective and useful in following what is going on. john ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: jabber rooms
Brian E Carpenter wrote: I don't think I've seen a reminder this week that jabber room for the XXX WG or BOF is [EMAIL PROTECTED] FYI: Audio feed info: http://videolab.uoregon.edu/events/ietf/ Jabber info: http://www.xmpp.org/ietf-chat.html Meeting slides: https://onsite.ietf.org/public/meeting_materials.cgi?meeting_num=64 Andy ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
jabber rooms
I don't think I've seen a reminder this week that jabber room for the XXX WG or BOF is [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
BOF jabber rooms
Sam Hartman wrote: > Hi. The BOF jabber rooms seem not to exist yet. They do now. Sorry for the oversight. Peter smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
jabber rooms
Hi, It looks like jabber rooms are being hosted at ietf.xmpp.org room name = wg or bof name Brian ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
BOF jabber rooms
Hi. The BOF jabber rooms seem not to exist yet. ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
