Re: power in Korea..

2004-02-27 Thread itojun
Lest someone get a nasty surprise by believing everything you read
on the Internet, if you are staying in the IETF hotel, click through
from the IETF meeting accommodation page, follow the instructions
to find the Lotte Seoul, click rooms and then standard and deluxe
rooms. There you will find the interesting statement:

- Voltage in Main Buliding rooms is 110v. New Wing rooms is 220v.

the above description is correct.  my room is in main building and all
outlets are 110V, US/JP style.

now, the question is, how to plug in my rental CDMA-with-SIM
phone charger (which has round-shaped pins like european
countries) :-)  i found shape changers behind the TV set
so i'm using it (charger is 100-220V capable).

[EMAIL PROTECTED] in seoul



RE: power in Korea..

2004-02-27 Thread Matt Holdrege
FWIW, I'm roaming with my U.S. ATT (AWS) SIM just fine here in Seoul. It 
took less than 5 minutes to pick up the phone at the airport with a 
pre-reservation.

At 04:36 PM 2/27/2004, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
t-mobile usa doesn't appear to have a roaming agreement with anyone.
t-mobile germany has one with sk-telecom... It really continues to annoy
me that the US carries can continue to bung up international roaming like
they do.
joelja

 On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Adam Roach wrote:

  -Original Message-
  From: Aaron Falk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Has anybody tried this kind of trick (putting the SIM in
  another phone)
  with a T-mobile sim?  I know that T-mobile binds the phone to the sim
  but don't know if they bind the sim to the phone.
 
  --aaron
 

 As of three years ago, they did not. On the other hand,
 my research so far has failed to turn up a roaming partner
 for T-Mobile USA in Korea, so I don't think it will do
 much good.

 /a

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Re: power in Korea..

2004-02-27 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] write
s:
Lest someone get a nasty surprise by believing everything you read
on the Internet, if you are staying in the IETF hotel, click through
from the IETF meeting accommodation page, follow the instructions
to find the Lotte Seoul, click rooms and then standard and deluxe
rooms. There you will find the interesting statement:

- Voltage in Main Buliding rooms is 110v. New Wing rooms is 220v.

   the above description is correct.  my room is in main building and all
   outlets are 110V, US/JP style.

   now, the question is, how to plug in my rental CDMA-with-SIM
   phone charger (which has round-shaped pins like european
   countries) :-)  i found shape changers behind the TV set
   so i'm using it (charger is 100-220V capable).


I had the same problem, so I just asked at the front desk -- they gave 
me a round-flat converter.

The outlet surprise I've run into is British-style outlets in the 
hallways.  If you have converters for such outlets, bring them.


--Steve Bellovin, http://www.research.att.com/~smb





Re: power in Korea..

2004-02-26 Thread Joe Abley
On 26 Feb 2004, at 15:15, Joe Touch wrote:

Matt Holdrege wrote:

I am shocked that the IETF didn't rewire downtown Seoul to 
accommodate our conference! The next thing we'll hear is that our 
TDMA phones won't work. Or that they don't have TGI Friday's within 
easy walking distance. :-)
About phones:
Also, for GSM subscribers:

  http://www.etechkorea.info/articles/20020601001.php

These are CDMA phones which are specially designed for GSM roamers (you 
stick your GSM SIM in the back of them). I used a KTF CDMA phone with 
my Microcell GSM SIM last August, and it worked fine. The cost of 
renting the phone was very low, and picking up the handset at ICN was 
painless.

Joe




Re: power in Korea..

2004-02-26 Thread Aaron Falk
On Feb 26, 2004, at 2:15 AM, Joe Abley wrote:

Also, for GSM subscribers:

  http://www.etechkorea.info/articles/20020601001.php

These are CDMA phones which are specially designed for GSM roamers 
(you stick your GSM SIM in the back of them). I used a KTF CDMA phone 
with my Microcell GSM SIM last August, and it worked fine. The cost of 
renting the phone was very low, and picking up the handset at ICN was 
painless.
Has anybody tried this kind of trick (putting the SIM in another phone) 
with a T-mobile sim?  I know that T-mobile binds the phone to the sim 
but don't know if they bind the sim to the phone.

--aaron




power in Korea..

2004-02-25 Thread Richard Shockey
what is the standard voltage - sockets in Korea?  Its my first time there


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RE: power in Korea..

2004-02-25 Thread Jasen Strutt
 Europe 
United Arab Emirates 220 V 50 HZ UK 
Uzbekistan 220 V 50 HZ Europe 
Vietnam 120-220 V 50 HZ Europe, UK 
Yemen 220 V 50 HZ UK

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Shockey
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Subject: power in Korea..


what is the standard voltage - sockets in Korea?  Its my first time there


 
Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology Initiatives
NeuStar Inc.
46000 Center Oak Plaza  -   Sterling, VA  20166
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RE: power in Korea..

2004-02-25 Thread John C Klensin


--On Wednesday, 25 February, 2004 15:58 -0800 Jasen Strutt 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Korea is 220.

Easily found with a google search, versus an entire list ;-)
Lest someone get a nasty surprise by believing everything you 
read on the Internet, if you are staying in the IETF hotel, 
click through from the IETF meeting accommodation page, follow 
the instructions to find the Lotte Seoul, click rooms and then 
standard and deluxe rooms.  There you will find the 
interesting statement:

- Voltage in Main Buliding rooms is 110v. New Wing rooms
is 220v.
Don't be surprised if similar situations are encountered in 
other hotels and facilities.

If I recall, 110 volt outlets in Korea are compatible with US / 
Japanese two-prong plugs, i.e., two parallel flat blades.

  john




Re: power in Korea..

2004-02-25 Thread Ole Jacobsen
See my previous post on this topic.

Quick answer: Euro-style round-pin plugs

Long answer: The official Korean plug is 4.8 mm in diameter whereas the
Euro-plug is 4.0 mm. This means you *could* encounter some loose
connections unless you use the European *grounded* plug which *is* 4.8
mm also. Apple users get both a Euro plug and a Korean plug in the
world-wide plug kit for the white power bricks. Springloaded adapters
such as the Sascom and Gocom are good alternatives.

Ole


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On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Richard Shockey wrote:


 what is the standard voltage - sockets in Korea?  Its my first time there


  
 Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology Initiatives
 NeuStar Inc.
 46000 Center Oak Plaza  -   Sterling, VA  20166
 sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org   ENUM +87810-13313-31331
 PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 PSTN Mobile: +1 703.593.2683,  Fax: +1 815.333.1237
 mailto:richard(at)shockey.us or mailto:richard.shockey(at)neustar.biz
 http://www.neustar.biz ; http://www.enum.org
 





Re: power in Korea..

2004-02-25 Thread Matt Holdrege
At 04:59 PM 2/25/2004, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
Quick answer: Euro-style round-pin plugs

Long answer: The official Korean plug is 4.8 mm in diameter whereas the
Euro-plug is 4.0 mm. This means you *could* encounter some loose
connections unless you use the European *grounded* plug which *is* 4.8
mm also. Apple users get both a Euro plug and a Korean plug in the
world-wide plug kit for the white power bricks. Springloaded adapters
such as the Sascom and Gocom are good alternatives.
I am shocked that the IETF didn't rewire downtown Seoul to accommodate our 
conference! The next thing we'll hear is that our TDMA phones won't work. 
Or that they don't have TGI Friday's within easy walking distance. :-)





Re: power in Korea..

2004-02-25 Thread Joe Touch
Matt Holdrege wrote:

I am shocked that the IETF didn't rewire downtown Seoul to accommodate 
our conference! The next thing we'll hear is that our TDMA phones won't 
work. Or that they don't have TGI Friday's within easy walking distance. 
:-)
About phones:

You can use a tri-mode CDMA USA phone (e.g., my Verizon v60i), though:

a) I needed to update the firmware at the local store.
beware:
1. they will tell you this is fruitless, and that
everywhere overseas is GSM (it isn't)
2. you may need to recode the ID number (PRL?)
(in verizon-speak, dial *228 and recode roaming)
		3. the account has to be setup for international roaming

In Korea, to dial the US, I was told you dial:

	00700 (international number)

e.g.,
00700 310 555 1212
(I'm sending this long-ish summary since Verizon left it off their 
international traveler web pages, and it took a few days to decode ;-)

Joe