Re: [ietf-dkim] I-D Action:draft-ietf-dkim-rfc4871-errata-03.txt

2009-04-05 Thread Charles Lindsey
On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 02:00:01 +0100, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote:

   Title   : RFC 4871 DomainKeys Identified Mail (DKIM) Signatures 
  
 -- Update
   Author(s)   : D. Crocker
   Filename: draft-ietf-dkim-rfc4871-errata-03.txt
   Pages   : 12
   Date: 2009-04-03

 This updates RFC 4871, DomainKeys Identified Mail (DKIM) Signatures.
 Specifically the document clarifies the nature, roles and
 relationship of the two DKIM identifier tag values that are
 candidates for payload delivery to a receiving processing module.
 The Update is in the style of an Errata entry, albeit a rather long
 one.

I would much prefer that it created a new RFC to _Supersede_ RFC 4871,  
containing the full text as amended, and with an Appendix listing the  
changes made (whether in full old/new format like this draft, or  
otherwise), and pointing out that NO change to the protocol was intended  
or implied.

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Re: [ietf-dkim] I-D Action:draft-ietf-dkim-rfc4871-errata-03.txt

2009-04-05 Thread Barry Leiba
 This updates RFC 4871, DomainKeys Identified Mail (DKIM) Signatures.
 Specifically the document clarifies the nature, roles and
 relationship of the two DKIM identifier tag values that are
 candidates for payload delivery to a receiving processing module.
 The Update is in the style of an Errata entry, albeit a rather long
 one.

 I would much prefer that it created a new RFC to _Supersede_ RFC 4871,
 containing the full text as amended, and with an Appendix listing the
 changes made (whether in full old/new format like this draft, or
 otherwise), and pointing out that NO change to the protocol was intended
 or implied.

Thanks, Charles; noted.  What you say was one of the original choices
the chairs posed.
This was not, though, the consensus we arrived at in the meeting, and
there hasn't been enough support for this choice on the mailing list
either.

Barry (as chair)
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Re: [ietf-dkim] I-D Action:draft-ietf-dkim-rfc4871-errata-03.txt

2009-04-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:53:34 -0400 Barry Leiba barryle...@computer.org 
wrote:
 This updates RFC 4871, DomainKeys Identified Mail (DKIM) Signatures.
 Specifically the document clarifies the nature, roles and
 relationship of the two DKIM identifier tag values that are
 candidates for payload delivery to a receiving processing module.
 The Update is in the style of an Errata entry, albeit a rather long
 one.

 I would much prefer that it created a new RFC to _Supersede_ RFC 4871,
 containing the full text as amended, and with an Appendix listing the
 changes made (whether in full old/new format like this draft, or
 otherwise), and pointing out that NO change to the protocol was intended
 or implied.

Thanks, Charles; noted.  What you say was one of the original choices
the chairs posed.
This was not, though, the consensus we arrived at in the meeting, and
there hasn't been enough support for this choice on the mailing list
either.

I'll confess that my available mental bandwidth for this wg has been 
somewhat limited lately, but I hadn't considered that we were not doing a 
complete replacement of 4871. This is confusing enough without having to do 
mental gymastics between two RFCs to understand DKIM.

Scott K
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Re: [ietf-dkim] I-D Action:draft-ietf-dkim-rfc4871-errata-03.txt

2009-04-05 Thread Michael Thomas
Scott Kitterman wrote:

 I'll confess that my available mental bandwidth for this wg has been 
 somewhat limited lately, but I hadn't considered that we were not doing a 
 complete replacement of 4871. This is confusing enough without having to do 
 mental gymastics between two RFCs to understand DKIM.
   

Considering that there isn't actually anything wrong with 4871, you 
pretty much
have your wish by just ignoring errata.

   Mike
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