[ietf-dkim] DSN with signature replay

2010-10-04 Thread Hector Santos
I am wondering or under what scenario would a DSN (bounce) agent keep 
the original signature in its bounce notification 5322 headers?

It was a legitimate bounce for a non-delivery address.  But it kept 
several headers from the original message in the DSN message headers:

DKIM-Signature:
Organization:
X-Mailer:

What logic is there to this?

Of course, the signature was invalid.



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Re: [ietf-dkim] DSN with signature replay

2010-10-04 Thread Hector Santos
Sonneveld, Rolf wrote:
 On 04-10-10, *Hector Santos *hsan...@isdg.net wrote:
 I am wondering or under what scenario would a DSN (bounce) agent keep
 the original signature in its bounce notification 5322 headers?

 It was a legitimate bounce for a non-delivery address.� But it kept
 several headers from the original message in the DSN message headers:

 ��� DKIM-Signature:
 ��� Organization:
 ��� X-Mailer:

 What logic is there to this?
 
 RFC 3462, chapter 2.
 
 quote
 
 �� The Text/RFC822-Headers body part should contain all the RFC822 
 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc822
 �� header lines from the message which caused the report.� The RFC822 
 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc822
 �� headers include all lines prior to the blank line in the message.
 �� They include the MIME-Version and MIME Content-Headers.
 /quote
 
 /rolf

The report does contain the original message. I speak of the actual 
bounce message from the mailer-daemon contain a copy of above headers:

DKIM-Signature: d=santronics.com; --- copy
Organization: Santronics Software, Inc.   --- copy
X-Mailer: wcMail v6.3.453.4   --- copy
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2010 09:18:26 -0400
From: mailer-dae...@xx.com
To: return-addr...@santronics.com
Subject: DELIVERY FAILURE: .

The rest of the DSN body message with the message/rfc822 report 
attachment containing the original message was fine.

Am I still missing something?

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Re: [ietf-dkim] DSN with signature replay

2010-10-04 Thread Hector Santos
Very odd.

It might be the same software, but what I am seeing is the bouncer doing:

   1) Copies the original headers minus Received trace headers,
   2) Change From:  to the mailer daemon address
   3) Change To: to the return path address
   3) Adds headers for DSN mime parts.

The only reason I am seeing this because we are signing mail now and 
I'm seeing the new invalid signature logging with these type of bounces.

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HLS

Hector Santos wrote:
 Sonneveld, Rolf wrote:
 On 04-10-10, *Hector Santos *hsan...@isdg.net wrote:
 I am wondering or under what scenario would a DSN (bounce) agent keep
 the original signature in its bounce notification 5322 headers?

 It was a legitimate bounce for a non-delivery address.� But it kept
 several headers from the original message in the DSN message headers:

 ��� DKIM-Signature:
 ��� Organization:
 ��� X-Mailer:

 What logic is there to this?
 RFC 3462, chapter 2.

 quote

 �� The Text/RFC822-Headers body part should contain all the RFC822 
 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc822
 �� header lines from the message which caused the report.� The RFC822 
 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc822
 �� headers include all lines prior to the blank line in the message.
 �� They include the MIME-Version and MIME Content-Headers.
 /quote

 /rolf
 
 The report does contain the original message. I speak of the actual 
 bounce message from the mailer-daemon contain a copy of above headers:
 
 DKIM-Signature: d=santronics.com; --- copy
 Organization: Santronics Software, Inc.   --- copy
 X-Mailer: wcMail v6.3.453.4   --- copy
 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2010 09:18:26 -0400
 From: mailer-dae...@xx.com
 To: return-addr...@santronics.com
 Subject: DELIVERY FAILURE: .
 
 The rest of the DSN body message with the message/rfc822 report 
 attachment containing the original message was fine.
 
 Am I still missing something?
 


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