Hi,

In the dnssd WG, we are developing methods to enable scalable DNS-based service 
discovery, which in practice means enabling mDNS/DNS-SD to work over multiple 
links within a site. As defined, mDNS/DNS-SD are link-local protocols, not 
forwarded by routers. If successful, one ‘win’ is that users with devices can 
discover services that may be physically near them, but that lie in a different 
subnet.

At a high level, the proposed solution works by clients/resolvers sending 
queries to hybrid proxies running on specific subnets (which may be manually 
configured in an enterprise scenario, or auto-discovered in an unmanaged home 
network scenario), which then issue local service discovery messages, the 
answers to which are relayed back to the originating querier.

We’re encouraging discussion of privacy considerations in the WG. As a result, 
we now have a draft (see below), including an initial proposal for a solution, 
for which we’d welcome wider review. The draft also addresses mDNS/DNS-SD 
privacy within single subnet scenarios.

Feel free to comment here, or join the dnssd WG list and contribute there.

Many thanks,
Tim & Ralph, dnssd WG co-chairs

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From: Christian Huitema <huit...@microsoft.com<mailto:huit...@microsoft.com>>
Subject: [dnssd] FW: New Version Notification for 
draft-huitema-dnssd-privacy-01.txt
Date: 10 June 2016 at 21:02:50 BST
To: "dn...@ietf.org<mailto:dn...@ietf.org>" 
<dn...@ietf.org<mailto:dn...@ietf.org>>
Cc: Daniel Kaiser 
<daniel.kai...@uni-konstanz.de<mailto:daniel.kai...@uni-konstanz.de>>

Here is a new version of the "DNS-SD Privacy" draft. I co-authored it with 
Daniel Kaiser. Daniel is completing his PhD at the University of Konstanz, in 
Germany, studying issues related to privacy and discovery. This new draft is in 
my opinion much improved from the version 00 that I presented in Buenos Aires. 
You can read the abstract below for the broad lines of the proposed solution. 
Or, better yet, read the draft and comment!

-- Christian Huitema



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Subject: New Version Notification for draft-huitema-dnssd-privacy-01.txt


A new version of I-D, draft-huitema-dnssd-privacy-01.txt
has been successfully submitted by Christian Huitema and posted to the IETF 
repository.

Name: draft-huitema-dnssd-privacy
Revision: 01
Title: Privacy Extensions for DNS-SD
Document date: 2016-06-10
Group: Individual Submission
Pages: 26
URL:            
https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-huitema-dnssd-privacy-01.txt
Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-huitema-dnssd-privacy/
Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-huitema-dnssd-privacy-01
Diff:           https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-huitema-dnssd-privacy-01

Abstract:
  DNS-SD allows discovery of services published in DNS or MDNS.  The
  publication normally discloses information about the device
  publishing the services.  There are use cases where devices want to
  communicate without disclosing their identity, for example two mobile
  devices visiting the same hotspot.

  We propose to solve this problem by a two-stage approach.  In the
  first stage, hosts discover Private Discovery Service Instances via
  DNS-SD using special formats to protect their privacy.  These service
  instances correspond to Private Discovery Servers running on peers.
  In the second stage, hosts directly query these Private Discovery
  Servers via DNS-SD over TLS.  A pairwise shared secret necessary to
  establish these connections is only known to hosts authorized by a
  pairing system.




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