Re: [Ifeffit] about wolframite crystallographic file

2008-11-17 Thread Ravel, Bruce

Yordy,

I'll look into this when I get a chance, but that might not be until later in 
the week (I am on travel at the moment).

B 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Yordy Licea Fonseca
Sent: Sat 11/15/2008 6:36 PM
To: ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov
Subject: [Ifeffit] about wolframite crystallographic file
 
Hi all,

As soon as I load this attached CIF crystallographic file from ISCD in
Artemis0.8.012 the software says:
Artemis trapped one or more errors!  Error message dumped to screen.
I can`t go on runnig Atoms as it seems to be a problem with the file. I have
read the suggestion made in FAQ, but I can not manage to find the error.
Could you help me, please?
It would be nice once the problem been fixed to add this structure to Matt's
atoms.inp database.

Thanks you very much, Yordy

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Departamento de Físico-Química
Instituto de Química-IQ/UFRJ
Laboratório de Catálise Heterogênea
Rio de Janeiro, RJ, CEP 21.949-909
Brasil
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Re: [Ifeffit] about wolframite crystallographic file

2008-11-17 Thread Dominik Samuelis
Dear Yordy,

this error message actually occured because the crystallographic data in 
the .cif file is somewhat ambigous. The space group is P 2/c (number 
13), which is a monoclinic cell (with two different settings, as 
additional complication: unique axis b or c).

Now, if you look in the .cif file, the unit cell parameters are given as 
follows:

-- snip
_cell_length_a 4.6698(9)
_cell_length_b 5.6873(23)
_cell_length_c 4.9515(17)
_cell_angle_alpha  90.
_cell_angle_beta   90.(0)
_cell_angle_gamma  90.
-- snip

You can see, that in the cif file, all angles are 90. degrees. This 
however would be an orthorhombic cell, not a monoclinic. That's exactly 
the contents of the Artemis/Atoms error message:

Monoclinic cells have all unequal axes and one non-right angle.
Unknown setting for a monoclinic cell.

Fatal error(s) in cell parameters.

The atoms code in this case is not able to determine the setting of the 
monoclinic cell, because it cannot find the unique axis. For humans, the 
unique axis is denoted by the standard deviation (0) behind beta, making 
it unique axis b. This however is not interpreted by Artemis.

This means, that you have to tell Artemis in some way, which angle 
deviates from 90°. For this, I usually change the beta angle in the cif 
file by some tiny amount, to -say- 90.0001 degrees. This is far below 
the standard deviation, so it's crystallographically still valid.

-- snip
_cell_angle_alpha  90.
_cell_angle_beta   90.0001(0)
_cell_angle_gamma  90.
-- snip


Cheers,
dominik

Yordy Licea Fonseca wrote:
 Hi all,
  
 As soon as I load this attached CIF crystallographic file from ISCD in 
 Artemis0.8.012 the software says:
 Artemis trapped one or more errors!  Error message dumped to screen.
 I can`t go on runnig Atoms as it seems to be a problem with the file. I 
 have read the suggestion made in FAQ, but I can not manage to find the 
 error.
 Could you help me, please?
 It would be nice once the problem been fixed to add this structure to 
 Matt's atoms.inp database.
  
 Thanks you very much, Yordy
 
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 Departamento de Físico-Química
 Instituto de Química-IQ/UFRJ
 Laboratório de Catálise Heterogênea
 Rio de Janeiro, RJ, CEP 21.949-909
 Brasil
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Re: [Ifeffit] about wolframite crystallographic file

2008-11-17 Thread Ponader, Carl W Dr
Yordy, Bruce

 

Apparently Atoms doesn't like it that the beta angle in a monoclinic cell is 90 
degrees.  When I change the beta angle to 91 degrees or even 90.0001 (and 
change nothing else), Atoms runs normally.  It's interesting that although 
Artemis says it has written a message nothing shows up in the messages palette 
but the echo palette does show that an error was caught.

 

Carl

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yordy Licea 
Fonseca
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 6:36 PM
To: ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov
Subject: [Ifeffit] about wolframite crystallographic file

 

Hi all, 

 

As soon as I load this attached CIF crystallographic file from ISCD in 
Artemis0.8.012 the software says:

Artemis trapped one or more errors!  Error message dumped to screen.

I can`t go on runnig Atoms as it seems to be a problem with the file. I have 
read the suggestion made in FAQ, but I can not manage to find the error.

Could you help me, please? 

It would be nice once the problem been fixed to add this structure to Matt's 
atoms.inp database.

 

Thanks you very much, Yordy

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Departamento de Físico-Química 
Instituto de Química-IQ/UFRJ 
Laboratório de Catálise Heterogênea 
Rio de Janeiro, RJ, CEP 21.949-909 
Brasil 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [Ifeffit] [PGPLOT build problem] Upgrading to ifeffit-1.2.11b on Ubuntu from source

2008-11-17 Thread Matt Newville
Hi,

This is my fault... and I apologize for the sloppiness and for being
late in fixing this.   I've been mixing 'development/testing' and
'production'  versions, and haven't been very good at keeping them
cleanly separated. I think I have this mostly under control now,
but I will have to work on a decent test suite.

I think I found another reason to make a 1.2.11c version too, that the
mixing of devel and production
caused an experiment in how fitting was done to be the default, so
that the reported chi-square doesn't actually match the documentation
(instead of summing real and imaginary parts, it sums real and
magnitude components of the misfit, which is part of an experiment to
see how Feff8.5 worked for XAFS.  Using Magnitude as well Phase for
another way to report chi-square and misfits is potentially a useful
approach, but it's not what is documented.  Anyway, mixing devel and
production versions like this (for the past couple years, really) is
very sloppy on my part, and I apologize again.

I actually have an ubuntu box now, though I built pgplot from source,
and have never made a .deb file.
There is a new source kit at
http://cars.uchicago.edu/~ifeffit/src/ifeffit-1.2.11c.tar.gz   I'll
post this to sourceforge this afternoon, and  I'll also make a new DLL
for Windows and post all of these on the download page. I'll also make
a new updater for Windows.

--Matt


On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Mauro Rovezzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Carlo Segre wrote:

 Hi Mauro:

 I have now produced a package of ifeffit 1.2.11b.  It is in Debian
 unstable and available for Ubuntu intrepid and jaunty in my repository

 deb http://debian-xray.iit.edu intrepid main contrib non-free

 Carlo,

 Thank you very much for the package.

 Actually, I was able to build/install ifeffit 1.2.11b from source but
 not able to build than the Perl/Python wrappers and so no HoraeFriends
 from Bruce SVN.

 Well, now I have pgplot5, ifeffit, perl-ifeffit and
 python-ifeffit from binaries and libperlxray horae and demeter
 built from source (Bruce SVN).

 Everything seems fine but I still do not understand why ifeffit 1.2.11
 has all these IFF str = * output as stated also by Gareth in his
 Ifeffit 1.2.11b terminal output post. Is it normal?

 Cheers,
 Mauro
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[Ifeffit] Ifeffit 1.2.11c (was Re: [PGPLOT build problem] Upgrading to ifeffit-1.2.11b on Ubuntu from source)

2008-11-17 Thread Matt Newville
Hi Folks,

I've uploaded source kits for Ifeffit 1.2.11c to the cars.uchicago.edu
and sourceforge.net download sites.

I have a Windows dll made for this bug fix version.  If anyone is
interested, this is currently at
  http://cars.uchicago.edu/~ifeffit/updates/011/bin/ifeffit_12.dll

This should be a drop-in replacement for the
IFEFFIT_DIR\bin\ifeffit_12.dll   on your system.
Artemis.exe will not be updated from this dll, as it has this dlls
compiled in.  Bruce will have to make a new Artemis.exe, and then
we'll make a automatic update.

Sorry for all the trouble,

--Matt


On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Matt Newville
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 This is my fault... and I apologize for the sloppiness and for being
 late in fixing this.   I've been mixing 'development/testing' and
 'production'  versions, and haven't been very good at keeping them
 cleanly separated. I think I have this mostly under control now,
 but I will have to work on a decent test suite.

 I think I found another reason to make a 1.2.11c version too, that the
 mixing of devel and production
 caused an experiment in how fitting was done to be the default, so
 that the reported chi-square doesn't actually match the documentation
 (instead of summing real and imaginary parts, it sums real and
 magnitude components of the misfit, which is part of an experiment to
 see how Feff8.5 worked for XAFS.  Using Magnitude as well Phase for
 another way to report chi-square and misfits is potentially a useful
 approach, but it's not what is documented.  Anyway, mixing devel and
 production versions like this (for the past couple years, really) is
 very sloppy on my part, and I apologize again.

 I actually have an ubuntu box now, though I built pgplot from source,
 and have never made a .deb file.
 There is a new source kit at
 http://cars.uchicago.edu/~ifeffit/src/ifeffit-1.2.11c.tar.gz   I'll
 post this to sourceforge this afternoon, and  I'll also make a new DLL
 for Windows and post all of these on the download page. I'll also make
 a new updater for Windows.

 --Matt


 On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Mauro Rovezzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Carlo Segre wrote:

 Hi Mauro:

 I have now produced a package of ifeffit 1.2.11b.  It is in Debian
 unstable and available for Ubuntu intrepid and jaunty in my repository

 deb http://debian-xray.iit.edu intrepid main contrib non-free

 Carlo,

 Thank you very much for the package.

 Actually, I was able to build/install ifeffit 1.2.11b from source but
 not able to build than the Perl/Python wrappers and so no HoraeFriends
 from Bruce SVN.

 Well, now I have pgplot5, ifeffit, perl-ifeffit and
 python-ifeffit from binaries and libperlxray horae and demeter
 built from source (Bruce SVN).

 Everything seems fine but I still do not understand why ifeffit 1.2.11
 has all these IFF str = * output as stated also by Gareth in his
 Ifeffit 1.2.11b terminal output post. Is it normal?

 Cheers,
 Mauro
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Re: [Ifeffit] Ifeffit 1.2.11c (was Re: [PGPLOT build problem] Upgrading to ifeffit-1.2.11b on Ubuntu from source)

2008-11-17 Thread Carlo Segre

Debian packages have been uploaded to unstable and I am in the process of 
building Ubuntu packages for my repository.  i expect that they will be up 
tonight.

carlo

On Mon, 17 Nov 2008, Matt Newville wrote:

 Hi Folks,

 I've uploaded source kits for Ifeffit 1.2.11c to the cars.uchicago.edu
 and sourceforge.net download sites.

 I have a Windows dll made for this bug fix version.  If anyone is
 interested, this is currently at
  http://cars.uchicago.edu/~ifeffit/updates/011/bin/ifeffit_12.dll

 This should be a drop-in replacement for the
 IFEFFIT_DIR\bin\ifeffit_12.dll   on your system.
 Artemis.exe will not be updated from this dll, as it has this dlls
 compiled in.  Bruce will have to make a new Artemis.exe, and then
 we'll make a automatic update.

 Sorry for all the trouble,

 --Matt


 On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Matt Newville
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 This is my fault... and I apologize for the sloppiness and for being
 late in fixing this.   I've been mixing 'development/testing' and
 'production'  versions, and haven't been very good at keeping them
 cleanly separated. I think I have this mostly under control now,
 but I will have to work on a decent test suite.

 I think I found another reason to make a 1.2.11c version too, that the
 mixing of devel and production
 caused an experiment in how fitting was done to be the default, so
 that the reported chi-square doesn't actually match the documentation
 (instead of summing real and imaginary parts, it sums real and
 magnitude components of the misfit, which is part of an experiment to
 see how Feff8.5 worked for XAFS.  Using Magnitude as well Phase for
 another way to report chi-square and misfits is potentially a useful
 approach, but it's not what is documented.  Anyway, mixing devel and
 production versions like this (for the past couple years, really) is
 very sloppy on my part, and I apologize again.

 I actually have an ubuntu box now, though I built pgplot from source,
 and have never made a .deb file.
 There is a new source kit at
 http://cars.uchicago.edu/~ifeffit/src/ifeffit-1.2.11c.tar.gz   I'll
 post this to sourceforge this afternoon, and  I'll also make a new DLL
 for Windows and post all of these on the download page. I'll also make
 a new updater for Windows.

 --Matt


 On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Mauro Rovezzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Carlo Segre wrote:

 Hi Mauro:

 I have now produced a package of ifeffit 1.2.11b.  It is in Debian
 unstable and available for Ubuntu intrepid and jaunty in my repository

 deb http://debian-xray.iit.edu intrepid main contrib non-free

 Carlo,

 Thank you very much for the package.

 Actually, I was able to build/install ifeffit 1.2.11b from source but
 not able to build than the Perl/Python wrappers and so no HoraeFriends
 from Bruce SVN.

 Well, now I have pgplot5, ifeffit, perl-ifeffit and
 python-ifeffit from binaries and libperlxray horae and demeter
 built from source (Bruce SVN).

 Everything seems fine but I still do not understand why ifeffit 1.2.11
 has all these IFF str = * output as stated also by Gareth in his
 Ifeffit 1.2.11b terminal output post. Is it normal?

 Cheers,
 Mauro
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Re: [Ifeffit] Ifeffit 1.2.11c (was Re: [PGPLOT build problem] Upgrading to ifeffit-1.2.11b on Ubuntu from source)

2008-11-17 Thread Matt Newville
Thanks, Carlo!

--Matt




On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Carlo Segre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Debian packages have been uploaded to unstable and I am in the process of
 building Ubuntu packages for my repository.  i expect that they will be up
 tonight.

 carlo

 On Mon, 17 Nov 2008, Matt Newville wrote:

 Hi Folks,

 I've uploaded source kits for Ifeffit 1.2.11c to the cars.uchicago.edu
 and sourceforge.net download sites.

 I have a Windows dll made for this bug fix version.  If anyone is
 interested, this is currently at
  http://cars.uchicago.edu/~ifeffit/updates/011/bin/ifeffit_12.dll

 This should be a drop-in replacement for the
 IFEFFIT_DIR\bin\ifeffit_12.dll   on your system.
 Artemis.exe will not be updated from this dll, as it has this dlls
 compiled in.  Bruce will have to make a new Artemis.exe, and then
 we'll make a automatic update.

 Sorry for all the trouble,

 --Matt


 On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Matt Newville
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 This is my fault... and I apologize for the sloppiness and for being
 late in fixing this.   I've been mixing 'development/testing' and
 'production'  versions, and haven't been very good at keeping them
 cleanly separated. I think I have this mostly under control now,
 but I will have to work on a decent test suite.

 I think I found another reason to make a 1.2.11c version too, that the
 mixing of devel and production
 caused an experiment in how fitting was done to be the default, so
 that the reported chi-square doesn't actually match the documentation
 (instead of summing real and imaginary parts, it sums real and
 magnitude components of the misfit, which is part of an experiment to
 see how Feff8.5 worked for XAFS.  Using Magnitude as well Phase for
 another way to report chi-square and misfits is potentially a useful
 approach, but it's not what is documented.  Anyway, mixing devel and
 production versions like this (for the past couple years, really) is
 very sloppy on my part, and I apologize again.

 I actually have an ubuntu box now, though I built pgplot from source,
 and have never made a .deb file.
 There is a new source kit at
 http://cars.uchicago.edu/~ifeffit/src/ifeffit-1.2.11c.tar.gz   I'll
 post this to sourceforge this afternoon, and  I'll also make a new DLL
 for Windows and post all of these on the download page. I'll also make
 a new updater for Windows.

 --Matt


 On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Mauro Rovezzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Carlo Segre wrote:

 Hi Mauro:

 I have now produced a package of ifeffit 1.2.11b.  It is in Debian
 unstable and available for Ubuntu intrepid and jaunty in my repository

 deb http://debian-xray.iit.edu intrepid main contrib non-free

 Carlo,

 Thank you very much for the package.

 Actually, I was able to build/install ifeffit 1.2.11b from source but
 not able to build than the Perl/Python wrappers and so no HoraeFriends
 from Bruce SVN.

 Well, now I have pgplot5, ifeffit, perl-ifeffit and
 python-ifeffit from binaries and libperlxray horae and demeter
 built from source (Bruce SVN).

 Everything seems fine but I still do not understand why ifeffit 1.2.11
 has all these IFF str = * output as stated also by Gareth in his
 Ifeffit 1.2.11b terminal output post. Is it normal?

 Cheers,
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