[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT]Zyxware has moved

[raghu ram]

hi
 friend i need Ubuntu latest version installation DVD and all  DVDs of
repositories. can u please arrnage these DVDs for me i can
come and collect .
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[fsug-tvm] 3gp no sound

[stranger in black.....]

hi...
the 3gp videos that are recorded using my nokia phone does not have sound
while playing. i used totem, smplayer and vlc...

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[fsug-tvm] Re: 3gp no sound

[Visakh]

Hi,
  I think I know that problem- I have experienced the same. The
problem is that 3GP from Nokia, Sony Erricson etc embeds audio in SAMR
format (Adaptive Multi-Rate Floating point). This is a patented and
highly protected format. So, GNU/Linux playback engines like gstreamer
and xine intentionally avoid supporting it, instead choosing to
totally neglect the audio stream.

  The suggested solution includes installing Real player (I don't know
if it works) or custom compiling AMR codecs. The AMR codecs are
maintained as a separate project (amrnb and amrwb libraries) at
http://www.penguin.cz/~utx/amr . I don't know how to deal with these
libraries, but hope this helps: 
http://flixforums.com/archive/index.php/t-240.html
.

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[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT]Zyxware has moved

[stranger in black.....]

ശരിക്കും ചുറ്റി പോയി

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Junise Safvan  wrote:

> ശരിക്കും ചുറ്റി പോയി
>
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:31 AM, .Keralafarmer <
> chandrasekharan.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ചുറ്റിക്കറങ്ങിയിട്ടാണെങ്കിലും ഈ പരസ്യം വരുന്നതിന് മുമ്പ് ഞാന്‍ അവിടെ
>> ചെന്നെത്തി.
>>
>> 2009/5/12 Anoop John 
>>
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> We have finally found a place to move to. Thanks for all those who
>>> have helped us in searching for a rental.
>>>
>>> Our new office address is
>>>
>>> Zyxware Technologies
>>> TC 3/118, Opp M. G. College
>>> Kesavadasapuram,
>>> Pattom P.O., Trivandrum.
>>>
>>> Our phone numbers are
>>>
>>> 0471-2449495,
>>> 09446069446.
>>>
>>> I hope that this new location is going to be more convenient for
>>> people to access Zyxware services and products.
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>>
>>> Anoop John
>>> Zyxware Technologies
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> 
>>> http://www.zyxware.com
>>> http://www.anoopjohn.com
>>> http://www.thondomraughts.com
>>>
>>> 
>>> "Be the change you wish to see in the world", M. K. Gandhi
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>> സംരക്ഷിക്കപ്പെടട്ടെ!
>> Thank you
>> എസ്.ചന്ദ്രശേഖരന്‍ നായര്‍,
>> ശ്രീരാഘവ്, പെരുകാവ്, പേയാട്-പി.ഒ,
>> തിരുവനന്തപുരം. 695 573
>> Ph. 0471 2283033
>> Mob. 91 9447183033 OR 91 9495983033
>> Blog: http://keralafarmeronline.com
>>
>>
>> >>
>>
>
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[fsug-tvm] Re: sites for downlading c++ cbt

[Syam Krishnan]

Arun v vempan wrote:
> c++ programming cbt(computer based training)
Trust me.. buy a copy of 'C++ Primer' by Stanley Lippman. Much better 
than some 'site' or 'blog', if you want to learn proper C++.
I'd also recommend Thinking in C++ by Bruce Eckel (more useful if you 
know C). It's freely downloadable from the internet.

regs,

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Problem with Ubuntu login

[Syam Krishnan]

Visakh wrote:
>   @Syam: ഗ്നൂ ലിനക്സിന്റെ പ്രശ്നം ചൂണ്ടിക്കാട്ടിയപ്പോള്‍ പ്രതികാരം
> വീട്ടാനാണോ ചേട്ടാ വിന്റോസിന്റെ പ്രശ്നമെടുത്തിട്ടത്? ;D എന്തായാലും
> വ്യത്യസ്തമായൊരു പ്രശ്നം! PS2 പ്ളഗ് എന്‍ പ്ളേ (PnP) ഇല്ലാത്തതു കാരണം
> സാധാരണ - പ്രവര്‍ത്തിക്കുന്ന സിസ്റ്റത്തില്‍ മൗസ് കൊടുക്കുമ്പോഴാണ്, മൗസ്
> എടുക്കാതിരിക്കുക. എന്നിട്ടത് പരിഹരിച്ചതെങ്ങനെയായിരുന്നു, ചേട്ടാ?
>   

How did we solve the problem? Change the WinNT to  Win2000. That fixed 
everything.. he he..

Syam

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Kerala University registration

[Aneesh A]

They c\also are not ready to give passwords.

They simply delete that entry and told to reregister.

Regarding draft of the letter, I have no idea about creating one.

Can someone help me??

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Visakh  wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> On May 12, 6:52 pm, Aneesh A  wrote:
> > No proper software testing. That is the problem, As I think.
>
> Yes. I agree. That would explain both the operability issues, security
> issues and compatibility issues.
>
> > On student side, no problem in using firefox.
> > On administrator side, ie, teacher's verification, there appears no
> photos
>
> Well, if we place a complaint we will have to be very specific- like a
> bug report. Exact nature and ways to recreate it will have to be
> specified. For example, if there is a firefox/W3C incompatibility, we
> will have to show atleast one instance, or define exact problem. The
> problem you mentioned could be an abnormal case. However, if it can be
> recreated multiple times in multiple platforms (like different
> systems, OSs or browser - even just 2 cases would suffice), it would
> qualify as an ideal example.
>
> > Also my friend tried to register, He got all SQL queries and all..
>
> Exactly the kind of flaw that I am talking about. Whenever a server
> returns an error message, either it should be a standard message (like
> 404 file not found) or a Web app exception handled message. Anything
> else will contain sensitive information about internal system- like
> Web server configuration, Database information, SQL code etc. Did I
> mention that this server sent me back a portion of the web app's ASP
> code when tested? Just more information for a cracker to further his
> attempt. Anyway, that info about SQL is useful.
>
> > To Vishak, You are pretty good hacker. (Didn't meant hacker).
>
> I presume it was a compliment. Thanx! :D But I don't qualify as hacker
> by either Free software community definition or security community
> definition (cracker). My field is actually electronics & communication
> engg. I know more about protocols, encryption and security than web
> programming and designing. In other words, somebody else with
> expertise in these will have to explain to the university why their
> design is insane!
>
> > I am not blaming ASP. I wished that it had been done using php that's
> all.
>
> Technically, Java EE would satisfy these needs (security, scalability,
> responsiveness) better than either ASP or PHP. It has FOSS
> implementations too. But I know this is not point you make. This is
> not the first time public agencies are taking a contradictory stance
> on FOSS. Remember the e-VAT and PPT in +2 issues? We already have
> along list of these. Its about time they get reminded about this.
>
> > Also there is no password recovery form... It is a real problem as I
> explained in blog.
>
> No arguments there. They simply didn't do their homework. To get
> password back, we have to first face their apathy. Even then, they
> just can't avoid accidentally causing password mixups!
>
> Regards,
> Gokul Das
> >
>


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[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT]Zyxware has moved

[Aneesh A]

Anoop chetta, could you pin point the exact location, possibly in google
maps or so..??

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:06 PM, stranger in black. wrote:

> ശരിക്കും ചുറ്റി പോയി
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Junise Safvan  wrote:
>
>> ശരിക്കും ചുറ്റി പോയി
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:31 AM, .Keralafarmer <
>> chandrasekharan.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ചുറ്റിക്കറങ്ങിയിട്ടാണെങ്കിലും ഈ പരസ്യം വരുന്നതിന് മുമ്പ് ഞാന്‍ അവിടെ
>>> ചെന്നെത്തി.
>>>
>>> 2009/5/12 Anoop John 
>>>

 Dear All,

 We have finally found a place to move to. Thanks for all those who
 have helped us in searching for a rental.

 Our new office address is

 Zyxware Technologies
 TC 3/118, Opp M. G. College
 Kesavadasapuram,
 Pattom P.O., Trivandrum.

 Our phone numbers are

 0471-2449495,
 09446069446.

 I hope that this new location is going to be more convenient for
 people to access Zyxware services and products.

 Best Regards

 Anoop John
 Zyxware Technologies

 --

 
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>>>
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>>> സംരക്ഷിക്കപ്പെടട്ടെ!
>>> Thank you
>>> എസ്.ചന്ദ്രശേഖരന്‍ നായര്‍,
>>> ശ്രീരാഘവ്, പെരുകാവ്, പേയാട്-പി.ഒ,
>>> തിരുവനന്തപുരം. 695 573
>>> Ph. 0471 2283033
>>> Mob. 91 9447183033 OR 91 9495983033
>>> Blog: http://keralafarmeronline.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>
>
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>
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[fsug-tvm] Free software Zone.

[Aneesh A]

I have created a poster named Free software zone.

Available in files section.

Modified version of Windows Free zone.

If you want any hard copies of it, in sticker paper, high quality
colour, Contact me.

My phone Number : 9447926826


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[fsug-tvm] Re: 3gp no sound

[Adhin D]

Normally the audio will be AMR format. Install or update AMR plugins of your
player.
This link might be useful for you.
http://www.penguin.cz/~utx/amr

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:21 PM, stranger in black. wrote:

> hi...
> the 3gp videos that are recorded using my nokia phone does not have sound
> while playing. i used totem, smplayer and vlc...
>
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>
> >
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[fsug-tvm] Re: Kerala University registration

[Visakh]

Hi Aneesh,
  In that case I guess we can create on long letter together. First we
will create a short official part addressed to whosoever it concerns-
it should be short and contain only requests and short description of
problems. To that, we will attach a technical part detailing whatever
we know about the problems.
  Right now, I am down with a fever and there is the impending exams.
I will prepare the first draft as soon
as I sort out these issues.

Regards,
Gokul Das

On May 13, 5:57 pm, Aneesh A  wrote:
> They c\also are not ready to give passwords.
>
> They simply delete that entry and told to reregister.
>
> Regarding draft of the letter, I have no idea about creating one.
>
> Can someone help me??
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Visakh  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
>
> > On May 12, 6:52 pm, Aneesh A  wrote:
> > > No proper software testing. That is the problem, As I think.
>
> > Yes. I agree. That would explain both the operability issues, security
> > issues and compatibility issues.
>
> > > On student side, no problem in using firefox.
> > > On administrator side, ie, teacher's verification, there appears no
> > photos
>
> > Well, if we place a complaint we will have to be very specific- like a
> > bug report. Exact nature and ways to recreate it will have to be
> > specified. For example, if there is a firefox/W3C incompatibility, we
> > will have to show atleast one instance, or define exact problem. The
> > problem you mentioned could be an abnormal case. However, if it can be
> > recreated multiple times in multiple platforms (like different
> > systems, OSs or browser - even just 2 cases would suffice), it would
> > qualify as an ideal example.
>
> > > Also my friend tried to register, He got all SQL queries and all..
>
> > Exactly the kind of flaw that I am talking about. Whenever a server
> > returns an error message, either it should be a standard message (like
> > 404 file not found) or a Web app exception handled message. Anything
> > else will contain sensitive information about internal system- like
> > Web server configuration, Database information, SQL code etc. Did I
> > mention that this server sent me back a portion of the web app's ASP
> > code when tested? Just more information for a cracker to further his
> > attempt. Anyway, that info about SQL is useful.
>
> > > To Vishak, You are pretty good hacker. (Didn't meant hacker).
>
> > I presume it was a compliment. Thanx! :D But I don't qualify as hacker
> > by either Free software community definition or security community
> > definition (cracker). My field is actually electronics & communication
> > engg. I know more about protocols, encryption and security than web
> > programming and designing. In other words, somebody else with
> > expertise in these will have to explain to the university why their
> > design is insane!
>
> > > I am not blaming ASP. I wished that it had been done using php that's
> > all.
>
> > Technically, Java EE would satisfy these needs (security, scalability,
> > responsiveness) better than either ASP or PHP. It has FOSS
> > implementations too. But I know this is not point you make. This is
> > not the first time public agencies are taking a contradictory stance
> > on FOSS. Remember the e-VAT and PPT in +2 issues? We already have
> > along list of these. Its about time they get reminded about this.
>
> > > Also there is no password recovery form... It is a real problem as I
> > explained in blog.
>
> > No arguments there. They simply didn't do their homework. To get
> > password back, we have to first face their apathy. Even then, they
> > just can't avoid accidentally causing password mixups!
>
> > Regards,
> > Gokul Das
>
> --
> Call me:
> 9447926826
>
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>
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[fsug-tvm] Re: vlcerror in ubuntu 9

[sreenath es]

if you have an internet connection then try to download form repository
(using  apt-get or synaptic)

follow these procedures

You need to check that a "universe" mirror is listed in your
/etc/apt/sources.list.

then go to terminal and then type as follows

% sudo apt-get update
% sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-esd mozilla-plugin-vlc

This will complete the installation

("mozilla-plugin-vlc" is optional)


If you want to open VLC You need to go to Applications—>Sound&Video—>VLC
Media Player


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[fsug-tvm] Re: introduction

[BINNY THOMAS]

On 5/10/09, Visakh  wrote:
>
> Hello Zacharia. Its nice to see a Loyolite here. I am a former
> Loyolite and there are quite a few here. If you need help, the
> community will be happy to provide it - just choose the correct topic
> name. However, if you need personal help, you can add me to your
> Google talk friends list (just tell me if you need me to do it).
>
>   Seeing that you are a beginner in GNU/Linux, you will find it very
> helpful to read 'Ubuntu help'. It is a very beginner friendly manual
> to using Ubuntu.
>
>   I see that you are confused with instructions given to you here.
> When somebody asks you to 'type something in'- they will usually be
> asking you to enter a 'terminal command'. For that, you need to open a
> 'terminal'. This is commonly done from menu [Applications>
> Accessories> Terminal ]. Also, 'root' is the username of the all
> powerful administrator in a GNU/Linux system. So most systems have a
> 'root' user and a root password. But for Ubuntu, root is disabled by
> default for security reasons. Instead, if you want to enter a
> administration command (eg: mount /dev/cdrom), just prefix it with
> 'sudo' command (eg: sudo mount /dev/cdrom). Then you will be asked for
> your normal password.
>
>   If you need detailed help with mounting drives, just contact me on
> IM.
>
> Regards,
> Gokul Das
> >
>
 Hmm thats great. I am a former Loyolite too.

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[fsug-tvm] Slow Bsnl connection

[BINNY THOMAS]

Hi.
I recently moved to Bsnl Dataone 500 c plan from Asianet. I used to
get good download speeds. But all of a sudden I am starting to get
very pathetic speeds. Google's homepage takes about 15 minutes to
completely load.I asked my friends who use the same plan and they seem
to be fine. Its seems I am the only one who is having the  problem. I
had encountered the same problem elsewhere while using Bsnl and
Ubuntu-Intrepid(Thats what I am using now.). The person rectified it
by changing the DNS servers in  Network connections. I have no idea
how to do it.Solution anyone?

Thanks in advance.

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Kerala University registration

[Prasad SR]

>>  Right now, I am down with a fever

   sticker ഒട്ടിച്ച ആപ്പിള്‍ കൊണ്ടുവരാണോ?  :D


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Or tell me how you want it done. Not both.
If you already know best how to do it, just do it yourself."

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[fsug-tvm] Re: vlcerror in ubuntu 9

[ബിജു]

പ്രിയ suhruthukkale
many many thanks now my vlc player is working properly
സസ്നേഹം
ബിജു

സ്നേഹിക്കയില്ല  ഞാന്‍ നോവും ആത്മാവിനെ സ്നേഹിച്ചിടാത്തൊരു തത്വ ശാസ്ത്രത്തെയും


2009/5/13 sreenath es 

> if you have an internet connection then try to download form repository
> (using  apt-get or synaptic)
>
> follow these procedures
>
> You need to check that a "universe" mirror is listed in your
> /etc/apt/sources.list.
>
> then go to terminal and then type as follows
>
> % sudo apt-get update
> % sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-esd mozilla-plugin-vlc
>
> This will complete the installation
>
> ("mozilla-plugin-vlc" is optional)
>
>
> If you want to open VLC You need to go to Applications—>Sound&Video—>VLC
> Media Player
>
>
> -- Sreenath E S
>
>
> >
>

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[fsug-tvm] Re: 3gp no sound

[stranger in black.....]

installed the both things as told by adhin. still the problem
persists

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Adhin D  wrote:

> Normally the audio will be AMR format. Install or update AMR plugins of
> your player.
> This link might be useful for you.
> http://www.penguin.cz/~utx/amr 
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:21 PM, stranger in black. 
> wrote:
>
>> hi...
>> the 3gp videos that are recorded using my nokia phone does not have sound
>> while playing. i used totem, smplayer and vlc...
>>
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>>
>>
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>
>
> >
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[fsug-tvm] Re: Slow Bsnl connection

[stranger in black.....]

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Junise Safvan  wrote:

> change to open dns
>
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 7:04 AM, BINNY THOMAS  wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi.
>> I recently moved to Bsnl Dataone 500 c plan from Asianet. I used to
>> get good download speeds. But all of a sudden I am starting to get
>> very pathetic speeds. Google's homepage takes about 15 minutes to
>> completely load.I asked my friends who use the same plan and they seem
>> to be fine. Its seems I am the only one who is having the  problem. I
>> had encountered the same problem elsewhere while using Bsnl and
>> Ubuntu-Intrepid(Thats what I am using now.). The person rectified it
>> by changing the DNS servers in  Network connections. I have no idea
>> how to do it.Solution anyone?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> >>
>>
>
>
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> www.gnuise.co.cc
>



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[fsug-tvm] Re: Slow Bsnl connection

[stranger in black.....]

change to open dns

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:32 AM, stranger in black. wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Junise Safvan  wrote:
>
>> change to open dns
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 7:04 AM, BINNY THOMAS  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi.
>>> I recently moved to Bsnl Dataone 500 c plan from Asianet. I used to
>>> get good download speeds. But all of a sudden I am starting to get
>>> very pathetic speeds. Google's homepage takes about 15 minutes to
>>> completely load.I asked my friends who use the same plan and they seem
>>> to be fine. Its seems I am the only one who is having the  problem. I
>>> had encountered the same problem elsewhere while using Bsnl and
>>> Ubuntu-Intrepid(Thats what I am using now.). The person rectified it
>>> by changing the DNS servers in  Network connections. I have no idea
>>> how to do it.Solution anyone?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> >>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> www.gnuise.co.cc
>>
>
>
>
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[fsug-tvm] Re: sites for downlading c++ cbt

[Arun v vempan]

ok thanks

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Syam Krishnan  wrote:

>
> Arun v vempan wrote:
> > c++ programming cbt(computer based training)
> Trust me.. buy a copy of 'C++ Primer' by Stanley Lippman. Much better
> than some 'site' or 'blog', if you want to learn proper C++.
> I'd also recommend Thinking in C++ by Bruce Eckel (more useful if you
> know C). It's freely downloadable from the internet.
>
> regs,
>
> Syam
>
> >
>

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