[fsug-tvm] Any Openings in Linux

2010-05-10 Thread Sreejith JS
Dear Friends,
 I'm working in Dubai now.I have more than 2 years of experience
in Linux.Is there opportunity in India.I'm looking forward to hear from you.

Thanks  regards
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[fsug-tvm] Boot race video: Ubuntu 10.04 Vs Windows 7

2010-05-10 Thread srinath
Boot race video: Ubuntu 10.04 Vs Windows 7

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/boot-race-video-ubuntu-1004-vs-windows.html

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Re: [fsug-tvm] Re: Linux haters blog

2010-05-10 Thread nishandh M
hi friends, there is a lot decrease in my confusion, thanks to the efforts.

@ Sebin try changin distros is not practical every now and then, when u
would like the system to be put to practical purposes.
 I havent changed the ditro, but installed an ArtistX, which has most of the
tools pre insatlled. when it comes to a little twaeking with the help of
mailing list, it counts how popular the distro is. Am gonna get an ArchLinux
though.thanks.

please try answering the core problem, and not with exceptions. i have
stated its not the specific technical issue, its the policy and logic.

I did put a (*) on 'user' in earlier post,but forgot to explain it there. I
meant novices and users of applied software in FOSS

Fact: this mailing list is driven by real committed developers (hats off to
evrybody of them, and expecting  consistent supprt).

but begginer / applied users of linux is the majority when we step out  into
the society. People running to make bread, but are ready to spend a minute
for us, who explains our vision about th world, our vision about freedom.
Most of these users likes the libre philosophy more, even than the usability
of GNU/Linux distros.

If linux needs to be adopted by desktop users, it needs to be much more user
friendly (nobody argues)

@bipin Kumar, thanks,ur comment :
*However techie people who have been using linux for a long time tend
give advices
involving use of terminals when one asks for help because they are
comfortable /accustomed with it . *
expalins it...

so how are we going to work it out? developers cant invest all their time in
answering.
Can we stick to the following approach (these are  already stated many
places else where, i am not stating any of these as my virgin theories, my
problem is a frustration with using an XP which i din pay for, but getting
more perspired wen i try switching to FOSS, compromising my performance in
my career The absolute problem is illogical policies and wastage of time in
dispersed efforts in FOSS arena):


*Let Distros like Linux mint be made the most user friendly of the OSes,
compromising slight levels of performance.(memory/processor hungry)and
distors like Debian be maintained developer friendly with text based
efficiency ?*


What about making a resolution about the priorities for support to specific
distros ? thru ilug-tvm? it seems ubuntu is the main thrust. then why
cantilug tvm release a derivative of it own,
with ammendments and policies of the list implemented, before Canonical
approves it/cant approve for policy reasons?

example is the video edit suite Cinelerra, run by Heroine Virtual, but later
forked into to derivatives, the The Cinelerra CV(community maintained
version  and Cinelerra HV by heroine virtual). Cinelerra CV is adopted by
professionals, as HV is often late in approving changes.


what are the parctical difficulties as far as we, the  ilug-tvm and members
are concernd?

(this is gonna be hot, we have different opinions about Novell and Canonical
and others)
can we discus the pros and cons here? or in a seperate topic? this shud not
divide us, we do it very healthy.


I would like to support the following view:
Evrybody of us tolerate installing  the distro which is selected by the
mailing list as the supproted distro.( freedom to have a Win or Mac or a
Kalyway too remains uncompromised) high perfomance computing can be made
practical by switching up to base run levels. At the same time speak to
begginers in more readable language,atleast when they specifically make such
request?
 is *Linux Mint* good enuf to meet both end extremes? the user freindlines
as well as running at barebones environment?also license issues support
availability / reach.


*I expect opinions for those text in purple*
*if we dont mind user friendliness, we may face the crowd holding Novell
flags day after tomarow.*




On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 2:33 AM, bipin kumar bipin...@gmail.com wrote:

 as person using computers from DOS era i will say that  linux is user
 friendly as any other OS (i've to admit my initial foray into linux
 had some difficulties). the percieved lack user friendliness can be
 attributed to users understanding  of computers. for a person
 conditioned in using windows, if he has type a document he will as
 where is microsoft word? and not word processor same goes for media
 players, document viewers etc. as usage of terminals are concerned 99%
 of tasks in linux can be done without use of a terminal, However
 techie people who have been using linux for a long time tend give
 advices involving use of terminals when one asks for help because they
 are comfortable/accustomed with it.

 regarding asking for admin password for taking action, increase the
 UAC access level higher in vista/win7 and u will see it too will ask
 for admin password if u are not logged in as admin in the first place

 Bottom line if you put a novice who hasnt touched a computer in his
 life time He/She wil find Linux, windows or Mac OS similar 

Re: [fsug-tvm] Intel 41RQ

2010-05-10 Thread vipin kumar
Arun,

I heard that it is not possible to install Ubuntu / Mint in 41RQ
motherboard. Just to confirm it before bying.

Thanks


Regards

VIPIN KUMAR.V


On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Arjun Sr arjun1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Please make it clear. AFAIK there is no installation issues.
 I use Intel DG41RQ1 Motherboard.

 On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 3:49 PM, vipin kumar vipin9...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear team,

 Is their any Ubuntu installation issues with Intel 41RQ motherboards.

 I heard that ubuntu cannot be installed with intel 41 rq motherboards.

 May be useful for me if somebody can comment on it


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[fsug-tvm] Fwd: [Ilugc] [JOB] Wanted Student Interns and Developers Interns

2010-05-10 Thread JAGANADH G
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From: prakash srinivasan asprakash...@rediffmail.com
Date: Mon, May 10, 2010 at 5:04 PM
Subject: [Ilugc] [JOB] Wanted Student Interns and Developers Interns
To: il...@ae.iitm.ac.in


Dear All,
We at Ethics Technologies hiring freshers from 2010 passed out and 3rd
year students for our Summer Internship programme 2010. The objective of
this programme is to create the job opportunity for freshers on Linux
platform and create Linux/Open source exposure for students.

Expected skill sets::
* Working knowledge of Linux OS and programming knowledge like
C,C++,Qt,Java,Php,Perl,Python and RoR.
* Embedded systems,Embedded Linux,RTLinux,Android mobile platform.
* Eclipse,Talent openstudio and CTM tools like Openclinica.
* Web conferencing tools like DimDim, BigBlueButton, Openconferencing, iTalC
* VOIP tools like Asterisk and Elastix

Positions::
[1]Developers Intern (DI)
DIs will be trained and involved in projects from any one of the domains
like Linux, Android, Embedded systems and/or Open source technologies and
tools. Its purely depending on the candidate's skill set and interest.

[2]Student Interns(SI)
SIs will get the opportunities to aware and learn Linux, Android, Embedded
systems and Open source technologies. Its purely depending on the
candidate's skill set and interest.

Duration::
* For DI, minimum duration is 3 months. It can be extended depending on the
projects/topics/candidates
* For SI, minimum duration is 30 days.

Benefits from Ethics Technologies::
* DI and SI will get the relevant certificates from Ethics Technologies.
* SI will get the project opportunity for their final year projects.
* DI will get the job opportunity to join with Ethics Technologies. Your
internship period will be treated as a experience. You will also get the
opportunities from our business partners.

Remuneration::
* No remuneration during the internship. Accommodation and other expenses
will be taken care by Interns.

Eligibility criteria::
* Any degree holders from BE/MCA/Msc
* For SI, 2nd year and 3rd year students can apply.
* For DI, 2010 passed out candidates only apply.
* However Degrees and disciplines are not the constraint for Linux/Open
source enthusiasts.

Howto Apply::
If you are interested in the above positions, please send your updated CV
along with your covering letter which contains the information like your
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during this internship and why you would like to attend this internship
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Appreciated to forward the info to others.

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Re: [fsug-tvm] Re: 10 things to do after installing Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid

2010-05-10 Thread sreekumar r
Friend,
After installing my Ubuntu, I have I have done the 10 things, as
recommended by you.  Now my Ubuntu has lost its music (not
sound--cycle-inte kaattu pokunnathu pole sound kelkunnundey)--I think
after installing the codecs.  Please suggest a solution.  Sound Card:
Creative Sound Blaster 5.1
(Sreekumar)

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 7:25 AM, vjmist vjm...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello

 Thanks buddy..its very useful information all in one page..

 Vishnu Jyothi
 Software Engineer
 Kran Consulting
 Trivandrum

 On May 5, 10:01 am, srinath mail2srina...@gmail.com wrote:
 10 things to do after installing Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid

 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-u...

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Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog

2010-05-10 Thread Praveen A
2010/5/9 Sebin Jacob sebinaja...@gmail.com:
 Dear Nisandh,

 Till this day, I haven't once used command line to mount an NTFS external
 drive in my arch linux machine. I have a WD external hard disk, which is
 password protected in windows, but opens up even without asking any password
 in my arch machine. I had also opened several other external hard disks in
 this system, most of which were only used before with windows. So your
 problem may not be that generic. Try changing distros man, or at least, your
 DE. Think beyond Ubuntu.

Sebin,

Though all of us have our favorite distros, I think, changing distros
or DE is not a nice solution to basic issues like this.

Can anybody try to access ntfs partitions from Ubuntu and reply how is
the experience?

Nishandh,

Can you explain the problem again? Why are you using the command line?
Just to avoid entering password you are going to command line?
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Re: [fsug-tvm] Re: Linux haters blog

2010-05-10 Thread Praveen A
2010/5/10 Praveen A prav...@gmail.com:
 1. Handle ntfs drives easily.

I had no issues with accessing the ntfs formatted drive. I could write
to it without entering any passwords. I run Debian, but we should find
out why it is not possible in Ubuntu.

 2. Format drives with a right click from file manager.

I had to run mkfs.ntfs on the drive from command line. Now I think
this should really be an option from nautilus.

The first step to get this fixed is to tell the developers the current
situation can be made easier. So I reported this bug to nautilus
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=618272

We will see if they respond, but meanwhile how about fixing this
ourselves? Any volunteers to work on this project?

We will need to add 'Format' to the menu. Currently it has 'Mount' or
'Unmount', 'Eject' and 'Safely Remove'. When clicked on format, we
will have to offer an option to choose a desired file system, as a
first step we should offer file systems available in the system, as an
advanced use case we could offer to install new file systems.

Then it should have a tick box for quick format, that should be
enabled by default.

Once we get all the options we should run mkfs with given option with
given options. We should give visual progress of the process and
should find out if mkfs has any apis. Adding APIs to mkfs, if it is
not there already can be another project.

I hope some of you are interested to fix this.
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Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog

2010-05-10 Thread Hiran Venugopalan
On 9 May 2010 02:42, nishandh M pro.n...@gmail.com wrote:

Nishandh, mail as plain text. Please dont rich text mails to ML.
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Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog

2010-05-10 Thread Praveen A
2010/5/10 Hiran Venugopalan hira...@gmail.com:
 Nishandh, mail as plain text. Please dont rich text mails to ML.

Hiran,

Give me one reason.
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Re: [fsug-tvm] Re: Linux haters blog

2010-05-10 Thread Srihari k
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 8:19 PM, Praveen A prav...@gmail.com wrote:
 2010/5/10 Praveen A prav...@gmail.com:
 1. Handle ntfs drives easily.

 I had no issues with accessing the ntfs formatted drive. I could write
 to it without entering any passwords. I run Debian, but we should find
 out why it is not possible in Ubuntu.

 2. Format drives with a right click from file manager.

 I had to run mkfs.ntfs on the drive from command line. Now I think
 this should really be an option from nautilus.

 The first step to get this fixed is to tell the developers the current
 situation can be made easier. So I reported this bug to nautilus
 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=618272

 We will see if they respond, but meanwhile how about fixing this
 ourselves? Any volunteers to work on this project?

 We will need to add 'Format' to the menu. Currently it has 'Mount' or
 'Unmount', 'Eject' and 'Safely Remove'. When clicked on format, we
 will have to offer an option to choose a desired file system, as a
 first step we should offer file systems available in the system, as an
 advanced use case we could offer to install new file systems.

 Then it should have a tick box for quick format, that should be
 enabled by default.

 Once we get all the options we should run mkfs with given option with
 given options. We should give visual progress of the process and
 should find out if mkfs has any apis. Adding APIs to mkfs, if it is
 not there already can be another project.


I have the format option on right click in my ubuntu 9.10 .

It might have come from some other nautilus related  package i installed.(
So its already implemented.



 I hope some of you are interested to fix this.
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Re: [fsug-tvm] Any Openings in Linux

2010-05-10 Thread NADIR KM
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On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Sreejith JS jsreeji...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Friends,
  I'm working in Dubai now.I have more than 2 years of
 experience in Linux.Is there opportunity in India.I'm looking forward to
 hear from you.

 Thanks  regards
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Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog

2010-05-10 Thread nishandh M
thanks, evrybody again,

@ Hiran, Rich texting is my policy to attract to specific points, when am
typing longer than a tweet.I am sticking to my issue: Readability(part of
userfriendliness). subscribing to anoops(be the change philosophy in
smaller issues :) ) I will simply text it if I have a better reason  [I hope
i didnt use any offensive formatting ? :) ]

@ Specific issue handlers: [eventhough i repeated twice, its not the issue,
but the approach]
The issue I spoke arouse when i pushed a Portable HDD which was unable to
safely removed from WinXP because of a virus.Fat and ext partitions were
accessed, but contents of NTFS were not available. It was Ubuntu OS,
probably a 9.04 LTS, showed up with a dialoge stating that if i do type the
statement provided on the dialog box into a terminal , i would be able to
access it. A friend of mine was able to do mount it, buy doing something
in the terminal. That is the point. That is exactly the point. Why shud we
manually do that every time? It could have been done in a single click,
accepting the risks whether its legal or security issue.

@Praveen , thats what we call creative, thanks for reporting to nautilus. I
always allow system generated bug reports,especialyy a lot using VLC for not
playing media fromats. but have never done a manual bug report. i have
posted  suggestions to this list, and has asked Narendra sisodaya to add
 features to his School OS initiative regarding WinLinux migration
friendliness. I am gonna be a part of the  make-it-user friendly
initiative (non-programming parts, like user surveys, graphical
representations and all, at a pace which wont hurt my career).

and there are two options, 'safely remove hardware' and 'eject' in windows.
[in case of card readres:]the first shuts off the card reader, the second
releases only the card.i donno about the tech aspcets, just saw it works
different.no need to pull out the whole card readre evry time.



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Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog

2010-05-10 Thread Srihari k
Hi Nishand,
I have a point to make:
User friendliness is about how comfortable the user is with the
computer he/she is using.So every one will need his computer tuned to
his own tastes.So is it not better that one chooses a distro that will
mostly suite his computer usage(coarse tuning).Spend some time with
the distro get familiar with it..change what you dont like and add
what you like completely based on YOUR like and dislike(fine tune).And
this fine tuning may include tweaking and may be automating your
regular tasks you do.And when you have such a computer completely
tuned to your tastes you will definitely be fast and productive.
Hope i made it clear
I am ready to help you..sad to hear that your computer's
unfriendliness is effecting your productivity.

Please do start a new thread.the subject line of this one  is irritating.
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Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog

2010-05-10 Thread Hiran Venugopalan
On 10 May 2010 20:53, Praveen A prav...@gmail.com wrote:
 2010/5/10 Hiran Venugopalan hira...@gmail.com:
 Nishandh, mail as plain text. Please dont rich text mails to ML.

 Hiran,

 Give me one reason.

for not using rich text? Its unreadable. A word in red with huge size,
and red color between normal sentence. I cant focus to the sentence
but only to the word.
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Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog

2010-05-10 Thread Rajeev J Sebastian
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:19 PM, nishandh M pro.n...@gmail.com wrote:
 in the terminal. That is the point. That is exactly the point. Why shud we
 manually do that every time? It could have been done in a single click,
 accepting the risks whether its legal or security issue.

Not sure whether you're a software developer or not, but what you
described is exactly the process of development.

1) Someone or other identifies an issue or a feature which is missing, and
2) asks the developer to add it.
3) If the development team or management feels this issue is important
to fix, or this feature is a killer, then it will be added to a
specific milestone.
Otherwise it will be dropped or it will languish in bug tracker hell.
4) Developers fix and/or code issues/features, either as a patch or
directly into version control
5) management releases code or software product when the milestone date arrives.

This process happens in all kinds of software development, be it
proprietary or FLOSS. It happens for (small, very small, very very
small, very very very small, big, large) X (bugs, features). (Note:
the X is a Cartesian product).

In the FLOSS world, step (2) can usually be divided into sub steps:

2a) User rants on mailing list, along with several peripheral issues,
rants, etc.
2b) User is asked either to contribute or fuck off
2c) Someone tells user to file a bug
2d) User repeats rant, and additionally rants about being a luser and
therefore not knowing anything other than sending rant-emails.
2e) User or someone else, actually files a bug. Note, this step might
not happen at all.
2f) If user has time or cares about bug, he will file it at the bug tracker

I think, so far all steps upto 2d have occurred. Well, maybe not, but
Im not following that closely.

IMHO, you may stop sending emails like oh im a luser so ... and oh
why linux sucks for desktop ... and oh i found bug... OMG BBQ, and
directly go to step 2e. Or if you are a developer, go to step 4.

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Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog

2010-05-10 Thread Hiran Venugopalan
On 10 May 2010 21:19, nishandh M pro.n...@gmail.com wrote:
 thanks, evrybody again,
 @ Hiran, Rich texting is my policy to attract to specific points, when am
 typing longer than a tweet.I am sticking to my issue: Readability(part of
 userfriendliness). subscribing to anoops(be the change philosophy in
 smaller issues :) ) I will simply text it if I have a better reason  [I hope
 i didnt use any offensive formatting ? :) ]

Background color, text color, different text size, italics, bold. All
in a paragraph!
Thanks for not using underlines and strike through. :)

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Re: [fsug-tvm] Multiboot with Windows7/OpenSolaris2009.06/FreeBSD8.0/Ubuntu10.04

2010-05-10 Thread JiShNu
boot with ubuntu live CD.
open terminal.
type
sudo fdisk -l
and find your ubuntu partition. some thing like sda1, sda2 or sda and some
number.
assuming yours is sda1, if not replace sda1 in following steps with
corresponding.

then type
sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/
then try to install grub by
sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda

note that it is /sda not /sda1.
push enter and you're done !.
reboot.


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 Hi,

 I am working on this ambitious project for a while. I need these
 operating systems for various applications.

 Here is what I have done so far -

 1. Used gparted from Ubuntu CD and created 3 primary partitions and 1
 extended partition.
 2. Installed OpenSolaris first.
 3. Installed Windows7 and GAG 4.1 as a bootloader.
 4. Installed Ubuntu.
 5. Installed FreeBSD.

 When I boot I go to windows directly, the bootloader doesnt show up at
 all. All Operating Systems are updated. Windows7 is Enterprise version
 64 bit, OpenSolaris is 32 bit, Ubuntu 32 bit, FreeBSD pc98 version. In
 addition, I am unable to configure internet connection within
 OpenSolaris, it has a driver issue and I have tried 2 different
 drivers (from vendor and third party) but it didnt go.

 If you can could you please help me set this up.

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Re: [fsug-tvm] ubuntu repository dvd's

2010-05-10 Thread Arjun Sr
I have a BSNL broadband connection. I tried  for two days. No progress still
it is there where it was 0 MB downloaded are you guys getting enough seeds..

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 Completed DVD 7 and 8
 Downloading DVD 6



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[fsug-tvm] [request] [smc-discuss] ശ്രീന ാരായണഗുരു സമ്പൂര്‍ണ് ണ കൃതികള്‍ - യൂണിക്കോഡ ിലേക്കു്

2010-05-10 Thread Ashik S

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Subject: [smc-discuss] ശ്രീനാരായണഗുരു സമ്പൂര്‍ണ്ണ കൃതികള്‍ - യൂണിക്കോഡിലേക്കു്
Date: Monday 10 May 2010, 21:28:10
From: Santhosh Thottingal santhosh.thottin...@gmail.com
To: സ്വതന്ത്ര മലയാളം കമ്പ്യൂട്ടിങ്ങ് smc-disc...@googlegroups.com

ഒരു സഹായ അഭ്യര്‍ത്ഥനയാണു്. ശ്രീനാരായണഗുരുവിന്റെ   സമ്പൂര്‍ണ്ണ കൃതികള്‍
-  ആസ്കി (ഫോണ്ട് എന്‍കോഡഡ്) ഡാറ്റ  ആയി മലയാളം വിക്കിപീഡിയ
പ്രവര്‍ത്തകര്‍ക്കു ലഭിച്ചിട്ടുണ്ടു്.
അതിനെ യൂണിക്കോഡിലേക്ക് മാറ്റി മലയാളം വിക്കിസോഴ്സിലേക്കു ചേ‌ര്‍ക്കാന്‍
സഹായമഭ്യര്‍ത്ഥിച്ചിരിക്കുന്നു. smc യുടെ പയ്യന്‍സ് എന്ന പ്രോഗ്രാം
ഉപയോഗിച്ച് മുഴുവനും മാറ്റിയെടുക്കാവുന്നതാണു്.
അല്പം സാങ്കേതിക ഇടപെടല്‍ ആവശ്യമായി വന്നേക്കും. ഇതിനായി
സന്നദ്ധപ്രവര്‍ത്തകരാരെങ്കിലും മുന്നോട്ടു വരണമെന്നു
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പ്രയത്നം ചെറുതാണെങ്കിലും, ഇത്രയധികം പ്രാധാന്യമുള്ള ഗ്രന്ഥം
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Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog

2010-05-10 Thread nishandh M
I have been* *lamenting on user friendliness for some time. the thread
http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm/browse_thread/thread/45a1da9cb4fa4aca

and

http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm/browse_thread/thread/http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm/browse_thread/thread/45a1da9cb4fa4aca
thread/67564a2ffd87b8c8/03dd1791d37cdccf?lnk=gstq=lazy#03dd1791d37cdccf

were some attempts ( I usually use all tools and devices of language and
art, to prioritise and give prominence to topics.It need not always be
applying 'diginity'ize the western way, to grab attention. Unlike the
guidelines provided by ubuntu translators/manual maker's guide, there is
some sarcasm in the language, which i belived i used positively, directing
the sarcasm on myself, and playing the role of a less-abled Linux
enthusiast.(not just role, i am just a begginer), I play a seemingly
powerless role, but not a loser's, as in Rajiv's expression {*active
submission, Havelock Ellis* heheh}. )


The specific concern is:
*Making FOSS userfriendly*. As of now, its a *developers Playground*,An *IT
professional's PowerTool* (networking / server end) and a medium level
user's alternative Tool (DTP / educational). Wide spread usage, is what we
need if Hardware providers should start providing drivers and code.  We cant
make alternative hardware in most cases,because of patenting issues.

Professionals (Medical / Media stations etc) need flawless, updated
capabilities, and instant professional support, which is also falls in user
friendliness.

what i tried to explain was an attitude, specifying an example which seemed
illogical*, that too from a heavily forum-supported Distro provider, the
Ubuntu by canonical. This pulls the Distro back from its intended explosive
speeds of spreading. Many such problems exists, either due to administrators
or contributors attitude regarding how much user friendly it should be.
Linux distros as a whole collection, is capable of peaking over other
distros, but in daily life, its more specialist- dependant than other OSes.
this seems intentional atleast in some cases.
*Non-automisation of a proven solution to an existing problem then.


@ Rajiv  Hiran, the Rant (wikipedia helped) and RTF aesthetics will be
answered in an Off Topic thread.as It would be offensive to people who opts
not to spend  time for content with no direct impact on FOSS development in
this specific mailing List.Living beings respond, unfrotunately i feel madly
alive.

@ Srihari, agreed with every word, u spoke about customisation,But it would
be better if the user can customise OS/applications at home, without the
help of a API library dependancy specialist.simply stated, *more easily* :P.


any opinions on the follow:
do we need to *declare* some *unified priorities* in ilug-tvm? what would be
the priorities then?

are we breaking it apart just because of our intolerance of others view? why
the trend is to make new my systems when we have the oppurtunity to
contribute to active, widely used and long-term-commited distros and men
sweating behind it? It is a pity that such systems are initiated by ventures
without even manpower and basic infrastructure to maintain it. Short term
heroes, doing more harm than good. Can be compared with 'parallel strikes' -
the *samaandhara samaram* used in suppressing tribal issues. people got
scattered in many war fronts,not knowing which to join, scattered, dead. The
feud supported the war with many leaders, but too many of them. Tactically
appered supportive, strategicallly it was suppressive. We need to break only
if the parent system is destructive in effect, of its proposed idea.


*Intolerance is a crime  - DW Griffith in his film Intolerance (1916)
*


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 On 10 May 2010 21:19, nishandh M pro.n...@gmail.com wrote:
  thanks, evrybody again,
  @ Hiran, Rich texting is my policy to attract to specific points, when am
  typing longer than a tweet.I am sticking to my issue: Readability(part of
  userfriendliness). subscribing to anoops(be the change philosophy in
  smaller issues :) ) I will simply text it if I have a better reason  [I
 hope
  i didnt use any offensive formatting ? :) ]

 Background color, text color, different text size, italics, bold. All
 in a paragraph!
 Thanks for not using underlines and strike through. :)

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[fsug-tvm] Declare unified priorities in ilug-tvm? what would be the priorities then?

2010-05-10 Thread nishandh M
hi, experienced people out there knows the pros and cons of OS / Window
manager / application softwares and other entities available in FOSS  world.
much have been discussed in this list. Can we go for a consolidation? for
the benefit of ilug-tvm users as immediate priority.
What would be the necessities of a frame work to hold the benefits of this
conversation?
What do we need to put the details and remarks efficiently in? a google doc?

how should be the classification?
Kernel
OS
Application Software categories:



office

Databases

Spread sheets

Page layout / print

Dictionary

Units -Calculators / measurement converters

Graph plotters

Format converters

Document readers
research

Simulator

Reference software

data aqusition


File management

File manager

Disc cataloging

Dupe finder

Splitter / joiner

Compressor / decompresser

Decrypter / encrypter

Folder lock / file lock

Integrity checker / MD5 checksum validator

DRM / copy right enforcer

Disc burners


Internet

e mail clients

web accelerators

Down load managers

Torrent client



Anti virus / virus definition


administrative

H A C K tools

HDD fine tuner

OS Optimizer suites

Booters

OS Patches

Network / Communication tools

Data recovery

Virtualisation and more


Media development

Image editors

2D suites

3D suites

CAD

CAM

AV suites

FX / compositor

Audio suites

Multiumedia author

web author

Disc rippers

format convertor

media players


Software managers:


Hardware vendors:

Black listed hardware / apps (in case of license / unreasonably high cost /
non-open ) [with date and exact version]


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Re: [fsug-tvm] ubuntu repository dvd's

2010-05-10 Thread Adhin D
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Arjun Sr arjun1...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a BSNL broadband connection. I tried  for two days. No progress
 still it is there where it was 0 MB downloaded are you guys getting enough
 seeds..

 Where did you get the torrents from? Have you checked is it genuine?

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Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog

2010-05-10 Thread Yadu Nand
Hi,

@Praveen ,
 Can anybody try to access ntfs partitions from Ubuntu and reply how is
 the experience?
Yes, I've been having an NTFS partition on my system and have been
accessing it from ubuntu since day1 of switching to ubuntu.
I do not really understand where is the difficulty in usability.There two
alternative ways I use
1. Go add the Disk Mounter applet to the gnome-panel
2. Add the ntfs drive to /etc/fstab. This is easy and there are tons of how-tos
around,so just google for it.

and @Nishandh , I agree with Hiran. The rich formatting looks weird and
IMHO childish. I believe that this mail is archived and is meant to have some
formal tone,so its better to have plain text. People will read the mail if they
think it's worth it,(it content,not colour that matters).

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Re: [fsug-tvm] [request] [smc-discuss] ശ്രീ നാരായണഗുരു സമ്പൂര്‍ണ ്ണ കൃതികള്‍ - യൂണിക്കോ ഡിലേക്കു്

2010-05-10 Thread Yadu Nand
Hi Ashik,

I'm ready to help. I'll call you.

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Re: [fsug-tvm] Multiboot with Windows7/OpenSolaris2009.06/FreeBSD8.0/Ubuntu10.04

2010-05-10 Thread David Shar
Hi,

Thanks for the reply. I did try that already but didnt work. There seems to
be some bug with Ubuntu 10.04. Wish someone could guide me with install of
GAG. It will amend the index.

Best,

David

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:26 AM, JiShNu jish...@gmail.com wrote:

 boot with ubuntu live CD.
 open terminal.
 type
 sudo fdisk -l
 and find your ubuntu partition. some thing like sda1, sda2 or sda and some
 number.
 assuming yours is sda1, if not replace sda1 in following steps with
 corresponding.

 then type
 sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/
 then try to install grub by
 sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda

 note that it is /sda not /sda1.
 push enter and you're done !.
 reboot.


 On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 6:07 PM, David Shar dvds...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I am working on this ambitious project for a while. I need these
 operating systems for various applications.

 Here is what I have done so far -

 1. Used gparted from Ubuntu CD and created 3 primary partitions and 1
 extended partition.
 2. Installed OpenSolaris first.
 3. Installed Windows7 and GAG 4.1 as a bootloader.
 4. Installed Ubuntu.
 5. Installed FreeBSD.

 When I boot I go to windows directly, the bootloader doesnt show up at
 all. All Operating Systems are updated. Windows7 is Enterprise version
 64 bit, OpenSolaris is 32 bit, Ubuntu 32 bit, FreeBSD pc98 version. In
 addition, I am unable to configure internet connection within
 OpenSolaris, it has a driver issue and I have tried 2 different
 drivers (from vendor and third party) but it didnt go.

 If you can could you please help me set this up.

 Best,

 David

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 dave.s...@gtf.net.au

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[fsug-tvm] Re: 10 things to do after installing Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid

2010-05-10 Thread srinath
Hi,

Sorry for the inconvenience. I personally did all the 10 steps then
only I posted in this net.
I dont know what went wrong. Check out this link hope this helps.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=782360




On May 10, 7:36 pm, sreekumar r sreekumarhari...@gmail.com wrote:
 Friend,
 After installing my Ubuntu, I have I have done the 10 things, as
 recommended by you.  Now my Ubuntu has lost its music (not
 sound--cycle-inte kaattu pokunnathu pole sound kelkunnundey)--I think
 after installing the codecs.  Please suggest a solution.  Sound Card:
 Creative Sound Blaster 5.1
 (Sreekumar)



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  Hello

  Thanks buddy..its very useful information all in one page..

  Vishnu Jyothi
  Software Engineer
  Kran Consulting
  Trivandrum

  On May 5, 10:01 am, srinath mail2srina...@gmail.com wrote:
  10 things to do after installing Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid

 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-u...

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Re: [fsug-tvm] [request] [smc-discuss] ശ്രീ നാരായണഗുരു സമ്പൂര്‍ണ ്ണ കൃതികള്‍ - യൂണിക്കോ ഡിലേക്കു്

2010-05-10 Thread ganesh h
ഞാനും തയ്യാറാണ് സഹായിക്കാന്‍ പക്ഷെ ഇപ്പോള്‍ ഇത്തിരി തിരക്കിലാണ് ജൂണ്‍
രണ്ടിന് ശേഷം മതിയോ


2010/5/11 Yadu Nand yadudoc1...@gmail.com

 Hi Ashik,

 I'm ready to help. I'll call you.

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