Re: [fsug-tvm] Talk on Python
Ok Thank u for the information On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Joseph Winworth joseph.winwo...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, will look forward for it. On 15 July 2010 07:59, V. Sasi Kumar sasi@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 07:14 +0530, Joseph Winworth wrote: When would be the next one? The next one, by the same person, could be next week, though nothing is fixed. It would be on the Python Django framework. I shall announce it here once the date is fixed. Best Sasi -- V. Sasi Kumar Free Software Foundation of India http://swatantryam.blogspot.com -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
[fsug-tvm] Re: Talk on Python
The next one, by the same person, could be next week, though nothing is fixed. It would be on the Python Django framework. I shall announce it here once the date is fixed. Could you post about two days before the event. So one can plan to come. Thanks Asha Gopinathan -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] Re: Talk on Python
On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 23:16 -0700, ashag wrote: Could you post about two days before the event. So one can plan to come. I shall try to do so. Best Sasi -- V. Sasi Kumar Free Software Foundation of India http://swatantryam.blogspot.com -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
[fsug-tvm] A query on Epic Browser
I heard Epic Browser is a free software venture, but the irony is that it doesn't have Linux version Why so ? -- Emotionally Yours Abhilash Thadathil Jawaharlal Nehru University New Delhi-110067 91-9650966247 The World is Dynamic, So We Are ! www.dillipost.in its a free software venture, but the irony is when i tried to download it, all I could get was a .exe file? No linux version? Why so? -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] A query on Epic Browser
On 15 July 2010 12:35, Abhil@@sham abhilash...@gmail.com wrote: I heard Epic Browser is a free software venture, but the irony is that it doesn't have Linux version Why so ? The epicbrowser website doesn't say anything about the license, so we cannot assume that it's a Free Software project. AFAIK, it's a fork of Mozilla Firefox with some indic themes. All the other higlighted features are already available in Mozilla Firefox. So I'm not sure why they are duplicating the efforts. http://www.epicbrowser.com/installation.html says a linux version is getting ready. regards -- Manilal K M : മണിലാല് കെ എം. http://libregeek.blogspot.com -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] A query on Epic Browser
Any software which is a fork of an already existing Free Software (licensed under a Free Software license) is also a Free Software, otherwise it is violation of license. By typing about:license in your Mozilla Firefox you may view the license. So if Epic is a fork of Firefox, then it is a Free Software project too, if stated otherwise and you do not get the source code, then SFLC[ http://www.softwarefreedom.org/] can protect your rights. -- Anoop Jacob Thomas http://anoop.caremedia.org -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] A query on Epic Browser
Hey...Any downloads availbale for ubuntu OS? On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Anoop Jacob Thomas anoo...@gmail.comwrote: Any software which is a fork of an already existing Free Software (licensed under a Free Software license) is also a Free Software, otherwise it is violation of license. By typing about:license in your Mozilla Firefox you may view the license. So if Epic is a fork of Firefox, then it is a Free Software project too, if stated otherwise and you do not get the source code, then SFLC[ http://www.softwarefreedom.org/] can protect your rights. -- Anoop Jacob Thomas http://anoop.caremedia.org -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- Thanks Regards, Vishnu Jyothi K.P [image: Picture] Software Engineer Kran Consulting Vazhuthacadu |Trivandrum|Kerala|India - 695 014 Mob : +91-9744113537 vjm...@gmail.com|vis...@kran.co.in| www.kran.co.in -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
[fsug-tvm] Re: Auto reboot
I am facing a strange problem . After installing the Fedora 13 in my laptop ,initially whenever I power on the m/c ,it rebbots frequently.After rebooting the system 6/7 time or even more it become stable.I am not getting any possible solution.Is there any one who can kindly let me know what may be the solution for this problem. regards AJ -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] [OT]Require help in spreading awareness among School Students
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Rahul Ramesh msg4ra...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, The IEEE Student Branch at College of Engineering, Chengannur had recently started a project called IGNITE. This project has been started keeping in mind the difficulties a student would face during the transition from school life to the college life, especially those who are from govt. schools. During the first phase of the project's implementation, student volunteers from our college had visited 60+ schools all over Kerala for this purpose and an introduction on Project IGNITE has been given to them. In the second phase we are planning to organize talks/seminars/workshops on interesting areas exclusively for the 9th-12th students. And we will be implementing 2nd phase in the month of August. The reason for this mail is to ask for the FOSS community's help in spreading awareness about Free Software among the school students as a part of this project. We are a group of students without any support of external companies/organisations (Except IEEE). So you could understand that we are just student volunteers and there is no financial gain of any sort in this project. We would like to join hand with FOSS community in spreading the awareness about free softwares among school students. We believe it would be of immense value especially when the government has decided to use open source technologies at school. Obviously we wont be needing sessions on advanced topics, so anyone with experience using free softwares and and self confidence are welcome. :) I have kept this mail brief because I dont know whether you will be interested or not, but if anyone's interested we'll send you more details and the reports of phase 1. The 60 schools have been divided in to 5 hubs and in the second phase we'll be conducting programs at one center in each HUB. We are also willing to give a presentation on Project Ignite in the next FSUG's monthly meeting if required. We are also interested in a long term relationship and would like to hear your suggestions regarding it. That's it for now, I hope the students will benefit from this initiative. Some of us met with Hon.Dr.A.P.J.Abdul Kalam, and he was very supportive about this. He has agreed to come for the inauguration of this project, and we are trying to make that happen. So the Project is in Beta Phase now. Pls let me know if you need more details, Looking forward to everyone's suggestions, Thats a great program I hope. Like to know more details. -- Raru Rv +91 9633 9217 44 http://rarurv.blogspot.com -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
[fsug-tvm] Re: A query on Epic Browser
it is the creators freedom to to make software for their platform of choice, whether it be windows or linux or mac. if the software they made uses GPL components then they have to publish the source code, hence anyone can port that application to their platform of choice. however we cannot force developer to make an application for a particular platform just because it uses GPL components. they will be violating the GPL only if they intentionally prevent someone else from doing so. in this case all you can do is to ask them to provide the source code since they are using GPL, or rather MPL components. Bipin On Jul 15, 12:05 pm, Abhil@@sham abhilash...@gmail.com wrote: I heard Epic Browser is a free software venture, but the irony is that it doesn't have Linux version Why so ? -- Emotionally Yours Abhilash Thadathil Jawaharlal Nehru University New Delhi-110067 91-9650966247 The World is Dynamic, So We Are !www.dillipost.in its a free software venture, but the irony is when i tried to download it, all I could get was a .exe file? No linux version? Why so? -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
[fsug-tvm] Re: Wireless USB adapter not working in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS.
a...@ubuntu:~$ lsusb Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 003: ID 0d62:2106 Darfon Electronics Corp. Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0461:4d22 Primax Electronics, Ltd Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 003: ID 058f:6362 Alcor Micro Corp. Hi-Speed 21-in-1 Flash Card Reader/Writer (Internal/External) Bus 002 Device 002: ID 148f:2070 Ralink Technology, Corp. Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub a...@ubuntu:~$ iwconfig lono wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. wlan0 IEEE 802.11bgn ESSID:off/any Mode:Managed Access Point: Not-Associated Tx-Power=18 dBm Retry long limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Power Management:on a...@ubuntu:~$ Thanks for th taking the trouble, Renju. From whatever little I understand reading the above list, I don't think the the USB adapter is even recognized. I tried updating whatever that had to be updated by getting connected online using a wired connection. Had to shift the whole bloody computer to a floor downstairs to get a wired connection. But then that is not a permanent solution. I need to get the wireless adapter to work and only then will I be able to use it in my room. On Jul 7, 8:38 pm, Renju Paul renjupa...@gmail.com wrote: Can you paste the results of # lsusb # iwconfig -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] Re: A query on Epic Browser
we cannot see nothing new in epics than FireFox ,so i think better use FF On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:28 AM, bipin kumar bipin...@gmail.com wrote: it is the creators freedom to to make software for their platform of choice, whether it be windows or linux or mac. if the software they made uses GPL components then they have to publish the source code, hence anyone can port that application to their platform of choice. however we cannot force developer to make an application for a particular platform just because it uses GPL components. they will be violating the GPL only if they intentionally prevent someone else from doing so. in this case all you can do is to ask them to provide the source code since they are using GPL, or rather MPL components. Bipin On Jul 15, 12:05 pm, Abhil@@sham abhilash...@gmail.com wrote: I heard Epic Browser is a free software venture, but the irony is that it doesn't have Linux version Why so ? -- Emotionally Yours Abhilash Thadathil Jawaharlal Nehru University New Delhi-110067 91-9650966247 The World is Dynamic, So We Are !www.dillipost.in its a free software venture, but the irony is when i tried to download it, all I could get was a .exe file? No linux version? Why so? -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] ISO C Compilers
Aashik once made a document on why shoudlnt we use tc. I will privately mail that to you cause of its documents size else it may spam the mailing list. Arjun.S.R Computer Science and Engineering, College of Engineering Trivandrum On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 18:16, alan alan alan.alan...@gmail.com wrote: Actually I dont know why people are saying, Turbo C complier is not standard and outadted? why it's so? Does it have relation with ANSI C? -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] ISO C Compilers
For the record, it wasn't me. It was SYam Krishnan who made the comments. -- aashik -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] [OT]Require help in spreading awareness among School Students
Thanks Raru, I will definitely let you know more about this. I'm looking forward to more responses. Please feel free to ask for any clarifications. Thank you, Rahul On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Raru Rv raru...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Rahul Ramesh msg4ra...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, The IEEE Student Branch at College of Engineering, Chengannur had recently started a project called IGNITE. This project has been started keeping in mind the difficulties a student would face during the transition from school life to the college life, especially those who are from govt. schools. During the first phase of the project's implementation, student volunteers from our college had visited 60+ schools all over Kerala for this purpose and an introduction on Project IGNITE has been given to them. In the second phase we are planning to organize talks/seminars/workshops on interesting areas exclusively for the 9th-12th students. And we will be implementing 2nd phase in the month of August. The reason for this mail is to ask for the FOSS community's help in spreading awareness about Free Software among the school students as a part of this project. We are a group of students without any support of external companies/organisations (Except IEEE). So you could understand that we are just student volunteers and there is no financial gain of any sort in this project. We would like to join hand with FOSS community in spreading the awareness about free softwares among school students. We believe it would be of immense value especially when the government has decided to use open source technologies at school. Obviously we wont be needing sessions on advanced topics, so anyone with experience using free softwares and and self confidence are welcome. :) I have kept this mail brief because I dont know whether you will be interested or not, but if anyone's interested we'll send you more details and the reports of phase 1. The 60 schools have been divided in to 5 hubs and in the second phase we'll be conducting programs at one center in each HUB. We are also willing to give a presentation on Project Ignite in the next FSUG's monthly meeting if required. We are also interested in a long term relationship and would like to hear your suggestions regarding it. That's it for now, I hope the students will benefit from this initiative. Some of us met with Hon.Dr.A.P.J.Abdul Kalam, and he was very supportive about this. He has agreed to come for the inauguration of this project, and we are trying to make that happen. So the Project is in Beta Phase now. Pls let me know if you need more details, Looking forward to everyone's suggestions, Thats a great program I hope. Like to know more details. -- Raru Rv +91 9633 9217 44 http://rarurv.blogspot.com -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] A query on Epic Browser
2010/7/15 Anoop Jacob Thomas anoo...@gmail.com Any software which is a fork of an already existing Free Software (licensed under a Free Software license) is also a Free Software, otherwise it is violation of license. I have read Free Software, Free Society: Selected essays of Richard M. Stallman. According to that, a fork of free software need not be a free software. Eg : Xwindows, We are using Xwindows in GNU/Linux and MacOS. There comes another term, called copy-left. A copy-left ed free software and its forks remains free software for ever. GPL license is one of such license. Linux kernel is one such software. Stop, read completely before starting a flame war. By typing about:license in your Mozilla Firefox you may view the license. Firefox is a combination of 3 licenses. You can follow terms of any of the licence. 1. MPL 2. GPL 3. LGPL Here comes the problem. The LGPL ( Lesser GPL ) allows you to link Firefox to proprietary applications. I don't know about MPL. So if Epic is a fork of Firefox, then it is a Free Software project too, if stated otherwise and you do not get the source code, then SFLC[ http://www.softwarefreedom.org/] can protect your rights. Epic is not responsible to release the modifications if they have done only dynamic linking, ie, a set of plug-ins and themes ( that are proprietary ) makes the modifications. NB : This is my observations regarding the point. Please correct me if I am wrong. -- Regards, Anish A http://identi.ca/aneeshnl -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
