[fsug-tvm] Re: google voice and video chat plugin for linux..
great now this discussion is fanning out in to a debate of politics. politics aside i would like to point out that, most people use an app/ service based on its useablity/functionality and not its licensing conditions. i ve lot of friends who use google video chat and i cant force them to use some new IM protocols just because i'm using linux. bottomline is this, having mainstream apps, proprietary or non proprietary, available to linux platform will be helpful in increasing its adoption. now when i am using linux and friends ask can i use google talk in linux?? i can say a definite yes and maybe down the line get them interested in trying out linux. On Sep 15, 12:19 pm, V. Sasi Kumar sasi@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 11:09 +0530, JeevZ wrote: and my point was if you r fanatic about Freedom then try to stop all other proprietary services.. not only on tech-no world.. On other words, if u use proprietary services, you must admit its good sides too.. I think fanatic is too strong a word to use in this context. Would you say that Gandhiji was a fanatic for freedom? Or Mandela for that matter? I know that there are people who believe that the British rule did a lot of good for the country, and some even say that it would have been so much better if the British were still ruling India, because, apparently according to them, we would have had much less problems. From that point of view, Gandhiji, Subhash Chandra Bose and so many others become fanatics. Moreover, let us remember that we are talking about the software world. That certainly does not mean that we are quite happy with everything else. Just a look at RMS's blog would show what all things he fights. But right now, here, we are concerned about software and we certainly cannot take on the whole world and make everything free. Each one of us, as individuals, may have a number of concerns, but cannot fight battles in all fronts simultaneously. Best Sasi -- V. Sasi Kumar Free Software Foundation of Indiahttp://swatantryam.blogspot.com -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] Re: google voice and video chat plugin for linux..
On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 11:57 -0700, bipin kumar wrote: great now this discussion is fanning out in to a debate of politics. Yes, of course. Free Software is more about politics than about software. politics aside i would like to point out that, most people use an app/ service based on its useablity/functionality and not its licensing Unfortunately, yes. The whole idea of the Free Software movement is to make people realise that they need to worry about the licence. If it was just the usability that people are worried about, then they can simply use Microsoft Windows or Mac. At least, the latter is eminently usable. Then why worry about freedom and things like that? Let us also remember that many people keep away during any freedom movement. In fact, we know that many people joined the other side and gained from it. conditions. i ve lot of friends who use google video chat and i cant force them to use some new IM protocols just because i'm using linux. Of course, no one is forcing anyone to use anything. We are just saying that freedom is more important than convenience. Those who understand that join us. Those who value convenience more do not. bottomline is this, having mainstream apps, proprietary or non proprietary, available to linux platform will be helpful in increasing its adoption. The whole point of the Free Software movement is not just to get more people to use GNU/Linux. If Microsoft and other proprietary software companies release their software for GNU/Linux, many people may prefer to use it if they are not concerned about what we are saying - namely, freedom. now when i am using linux and friends ask can i use google talk in linux?? i can say a definite yes and maybe down the line get them interested in trying out linux. Well, that does not make them conscious of the freedom that Free Software gives. They use it simply because of its convenience, and could start using something else tomorrow if they find that more convenient. Best Sasi -- V. Sasi Kumar Free Software Foundation of India http://swatantryam.blogspot.com -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] Re: google voice and video chat plugin for linux..
politics aside i would like to point out that, most people use an app/ service based on its usability/functionality and not its licensing But we are not that 'most' people. We have joined here because we value freedom much more than convenience. I use a software by license. Even I may have some convenient and fancy alternatives, I will use only free softwares, in my system. Take the example of the below link. Even if twitter is convienient for me, I use Identi.ca, because I value my freedom. -- Regards, Anish A http://identi.ca/aneeshnl -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] Re: google voice and video chat plugin for linux..
Just imagine a year ago! How difficult it was to voice chat in Linux! Regards, Binny Thomas -- How to Ubuntu, Demystify Linux http://binny88.wordpress.com -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
[fsug-tvm] Re: google voice and video chat plugin for linux..
earlier i've tried installing mozilla and chat plugin under wine along with flash. the results weren't exactly stellar(couldn't get the webcam detected) and then decided it wasn't worth the effort. On Sep 4, 1:38 pm, BINNY THOMAS binn...@gmail.com wrote: Just imagine a year ago! How difficult it was to voice chat in Linux! Regards, Binny Thomas -- How to Ubuntu, Demystify Linuxhttp://binny88.wordpress.com -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
[fsug-tvm] Re: google voice and video chat plugin for linux..
video chat in empathy works fine as long as your webcam is detected by your distro. however if u are behind institutional networks that block IM clients(i happens to be one such unlucky guys) empathy/pidgin wont be any help to you. the only possible solution is the web based video chat services like the gmail. and i am happy that i now have an option of using it in linux as well. :-) On Sep 3, 6:20 pm, Anoop Jacob Thomas anoo...@gmail.com wrote: I have tried, Pidgin and it works well for audio chat. Didn't try video chat as I don't have a webcam nor anyone to video chat to :P. -- Anoop Jacob Thomas http://anoop.caremedia.org -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
[fsug-tvm] Re: google voice and video chat plugin for linux..
I also use Google audio and video chat using Empathy from Ubuntu 10.04 succesfully... On Sep 3, 8:23 pm, bipin kumar bipin...@gmail.com wrote: video chat in empathy works fine as long as your webcam is detected by your distro. however if u are behind institutional networks that block IM clients(i happens to be one such unlucky guys) empathy/pidgin wont be any help to you. the only possible solution is the web based video chat services like the gmail. and i am happy that i now have an option of using it in linux as well. :-) On Sep 3, 6:20 pm, Anoop Jacob Thomas anoo...@gmail.com wrote: I have tried, Pidgin and it works well for audio chat. Didn't try video chat as I don't have a webcam nor anyone to video chat to :P. -- Anoop Jacob Thomas http://anoop.caremedia.org -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
