{Spam?} Re: [Ilugc] Good Morning Guys
I need Java Program which should capability of execute the commands in LINUX terminal and get the output stored in string. i have one idea Runtime Try this, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-programming-scripting/65117-c-c-system-function-analog-java.html NOTE: Please use proper subject line for the mail. Bye :) -- Bharathi S ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: {Spam?} Re: [Ilugc] Good Morning Guys
thanks Guys i got the solution 2008/9/27 Bharathi Subramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] I need Java Program which should capability of execute the commands in LINUX terminal and get the output stored in string. i have one idea Runtime Try this, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-programming-scripting/65117-c-c-system-function-analog-java.html NOTE: Please use proper subject line for the mail. Bye :) -- Bharathi S ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Canonical Not Great Contributor
I just learnt from a friend of mine that I should stop using Ubuntu as Canonical is not contributing to the development of GNU/Linux systems as compared to other players. He also suggested that since most of its stuff, or nothing, is upstream so we cant trust it. Also his argument was, being run by one man, who may tomorrow change his mind and stop support to Ubuntu, then what? So, I am bringing this issue to the lista and have people's opinion as to how much Canonical has contributed and how wise is the decision to use Ubuntu? Here is the article of Greg Kroah-Hartman, maintainer of the USB and other subsystems in the Linux kernel mentioning Canonical contribution to be 100 patches viz a viz 230 by Mandriva and only 270 by Gentoo. Remember Ubuntu is quite young compared to Mandriva, Gentoo. http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/lpc_2008_keynote.html Please suggest. -- Swapnil 'Arnie' Bhartiya Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. Go to http://in.webmessenger.yahoo.com/ ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Canonical Not Great Contributor
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Swapnil Bhartiya [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I just learnt from a friend of mine that I should stop using Ubuntu as Canonical is not contributing to the development of GNU/Linux systems as compared to other players. He also suggested that since most of its stuff, or nothing, is upstream so we cant trust it. Also his argument was, being run by one man, who may tomorrow change his mind and stop support to Ubuntu, then what? I can't read thingsam temporarily blind! Venkat Blog @ http://blizzardzblogs.blogspot.com ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Students Project - suggestions
Dear luggies Consequent to the interest ILUGC has generated among students, I am getting lot of request for suggesting proects. In some colleges, they have decided out-and-out FOSS based projects. Please suggest projects ideas. Please keep in mind the constraints a. The projects are not fulltime for B.E students b. Most will have only preliminary knowledge - but can pickup fast. c. Should point out resources available on net This is a welcome move in our LUG. I too had lot of enquiries from lot of students, but could not give an effective help. Discussing in this list can bring some positive outcome. Some of criterias that i feel are important: 1. The academic project should be done for some real life requirements. No matter, what it is. If it solves a real life problem, then this project is worth while doing it. 2. The basic skills needed for doing the project is very important. We cannot guide project at the 8th semester, if the students dont know even the basic. 3. Even MCA students can be included in FOSS projects. The FOSS project that is being undertaken should be fullfilling, and should be towards implementing in a common life scenario. For example, if the student are doing an ecommerce project, they have to work towards implementing it in real life, and atleast deal some 2 or 3 prodcuts through that software. Only then, both the project experience and the software would be useful for the students. Secondly, as we have seen, no single matured foss project is short term. For example, wordpress has been started before 2006 and still its evolving. So, we should have a setup, so that, we build a student community of contributors across colleges under a common platform, so that the project they do evolve in to a mature one over the period of time. But for that, we need to have a strong platform, a vibrant community, and the open source development model. By platform, i mean, a site that contains the SVN, Wiki, project management, IRC etc. By Vibrant community, i mean, the contributors should be passionate about it, and should not do it for academic sake. By Open source model, i mean, the concrete process to commit source code, and a workable model, where different team takes different tasks towards the common objective. Its a model or process that should be finalised before starting project and should be strictly followed by the contributors. To achieve those, there are some basic requirements to be fulfilled. The students should be trained in using svn, and other tools to be used for project management. Only then they will be able to maintain, manage and take control of their development work. Secondly, regular meetings and conferences is to be held both in person, and over IRC, so that they would be able to discuss each and everypart of the project. As everyone knows, a foss project is NOT merely a coding. Infact coding contributes only minor part of the development. What is required is a solid concept, with optimal architecture for the project to start with. So the students should finalise on a concept, and start periodical discussion on various aspects of the project and document it. *FOSS Project that i undertook --- *I have been taken an initiative on my own, to guide 4 students from Mahendra engineering college. I would seek the opinion of the group members over it. The project i suggested to them was College ERP. To develop a basic module for the college to manage their administrative and academic tasks. This is essentially for the college management, and would greatly improve the management capability and decision making ability for the college. I am aware that this is too big a project for a BE student to take it as academic project. However, i thought, that we would be covering only basic and essential modules for the college, and it can be continued as a long term project with next batch of students taking up from where they left. The advantage i feel is that the current student can involve in the project till they get a suitable job, and in turn train a batch of their junior to work on it. Even after getting a job, they can very well guide their juniors with their technical skills. My idea can mostly be a unfeasible one, but my guess is that if the project kicks off, it would become a active foss project, else, it would become a normal academic project. So any way, there is no loss for the student. *My Suggestion: *If any of the members are convinced of my idea above, we can work together and convert it in to an active FOSS project, involving students from various projects, working on different modules. For credibility, a brand name can be created by starting a community enterprise, or atleast by maintaining a fullfledged website, so that students can always refer to, when they submit their project to their management. This can be done,
Re: [Ilugc] Canonical Not Great Contributor
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Venkatraman S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Swapnil Bhartiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just learnt from a friend of mine that I should stop using Ubuntu as Canonical is not contributing to the development of GNU/Linux systems as compared to other players. He also suggested that since most of its stuff, or nothing, is upstream so we cant trust it. Also his argument was, being run by one man, who may tomorrow change his mind and stop support to Ubuntu, then what? http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Pravs/What_Ubuntu_should_do_to_regain_my_confidence :) -Santhosh Thottingal ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Students Project - suggestions
Raman.P wrote: Dear luggies Consequent to the interest ILUGC has generated among students, I am getting lot of request for suggesting proects. In some colleges, they have decided out-and-out FOSS based projects. Please suggest projects ideas. So the October season has started. I wait for the day when the season starts with a mail I am interested to do this project and I have the following ideas to go about doing it... Please keep in mind the constraints a. The projects are not fulltime for B.E students b. Most will have only preliminary knowledge - but can pickup fast. c. Should point out resources available on ne Though I tend to say that the students should typically start looking at ToDos, Wishlists and Unresolved open bugs of FOSS projects, get in touch with the contributors/devels and try to put their effort on something which is there and to be made better, I am myself wonder whether their college is going to encourage them to take those as Final Year projects as their definition of such things still remain to be mostly tangled in IEEE papers. If the college permits such endeavours, them as sure that there is enough work to be done for another 3-4 years just from the existing pile of work to be done. Almost every famous project has half a dozen things which new contributors can take up and try it out. There are lots of people in this list itself who are someway or other associated with FOSS projects and would be able to provide the needed feed to much on for a season or two. I know we are tired of asking them to start early, learn the art and the tool, have some plan by the start of the season so they have more clue of what to do during the season. I still remember students who I happen to meet somewhere during the last few days of the year (read December end) when they had 30 days or so left and weren't even having a working Linux distribution running at their boxes. There were some who wanted to do Qt based interface but didn't even have the inclination to go through the Qt tutorials, which were the fact are very good for starters. I hope things have improved since then, but I don't expect it to have completely changed. -- --- With Regards, Parthan technofreak gpg 2FF01026 blog http://blog.technofreak.in ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
