Re: [Ilugc] Key Bindings

2009-09-02 Thread Kapil Hari Paranjape
Hello,

On Thu, 03 Sep 2009, Girish Venkatachalam wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Kapil Hari Paranjape 
> wrote:
> > Overall, I have found that messing around with loadkeys is only
> > useful if you _only_ use the Linux console. Even in that case it is
> > better to define key sequences in specific applications rather than
> > replacing the characters that the console stuffs into the buffer.
> 
> Sorry but I beg to differ.
> 
> I even think that you could be wrong here. We are only replacing
> the string buffer , and in this case for F1 it was a totally
> useless representation. We are not really diddling with the
> keycodes or anything like that.

The problem is that you may accidentally hit "F1" while in application
"foo" for which "ls -l\n" is a command that deletes all your files! :-(

(If you have read the book "Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy" then
there is some point where it warns that "Careless words can cost
lives"; this is a similar situation).

One way to make it work for bash regardless of which terminal you open
(console, xterm, gnome-terminal, etc.) is long as it generates the
same sequence "ESC+[OP" for F1 is to configure this in ~\.inputrc as
follows:

 $if bash
 "\e[OP": "ls -l\n"
 $endif

This definition will not mess with _any_ other application.

> > Most terminal applications (vi,emacs,mc,git,screen ...) and a few
> > graphical ones (like Emacs-with-X, gvim) allow you to assign commands
> > or character strings to key sequences.
> 
> Not useful I think. As I said, the use case is different.
> 
> I don't even want to switch on the monitor.

This is one use case for which there is no alternative to loadkeys.

However, you should be aware of Consequences (note the big C). For
example, the Alt+sysrq+r combination is directly grabbed by the kernel
and you can _never_ use it in another application as long as the sysrq
feature is enabled (via proc) --- and it "does" have disastrous
consequences if you happen to be using X or vi at that time.

Regards,

Kapil.
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Re: [Ilugc] GUI problem

2009-09-02 Thread Shrinivasan T
Hi,

run

sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg


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[Ilugc] GUI problem

2009-09-02 Thread malathi selvaraj
 i am using ubuntu 9.04

 suddenly my system crashed.

i am not able to get my GUI mode.once after system boot i am getting a
command prompt

i gave startx command it didn't work,how to solve this problem.






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[Ilugc] UbuntuDeveloperWeek - Day 4

2009-09-02 Thread Shrinivasan T
Hi,

Today is Day 4 of ubuntu developer week.

Today's Timetable:

Thu 3rd Sep
  16.00 UTC Let Mago do your Desktop testing for you -- ara
  17.00 UTC Paper cutting 101 -- djsiegel, ted, seb128
  18.00 UTC Learning from mistakes - REVU reviewing best practices -- mok0
  19.00 UTC Being productive with bzr and LP code hosting - rockstar
  20.00 UTC Effectively testing for regressions -- sbeattie

Indian Standard Time IST = UTC+5.30

The sessions will happen in #ubuntu-classroom on irc.freenode.net.
Check out UbuntuDeveloperWeek/JoiningIn for more info.




Day 3 logs are available at


https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/devweek0909/LPDevelopment
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/devweek0909/Django
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/devweek0909/CouchDB
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/devweek0909/SecureSoftware
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Re: [Ilugc] Key Bindings

2009-09-02 Thread Girish Venkatachalam
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Kapil Hari Paranjape wrote:
>> string F1 = "\033[[ls -l\n"
>
> This looks wrong. I think it should be
>  string F1 = "ls -l\n"
> The additional Esc+[+[ seems to be unneccesary.
>

Yes. I later tested it. I also wanted to say that many of my
steps were unnecessary. I was just playing it safe, that is all.

# echo 'string F1 = "ls -l\n" ' | loadkeys

would work too.

And so will

# loadkeys
string F1 = "ls -l\n"
 

You don't have to dumpkeys and copy it back. Once again I
was playing it safe.

> The above key sequence settings may cause additional problems with X.
> For example, did you use "xev" to check whether pressing "F1" still
> gives the "F1" XKSymbol after this wierd definition?

We can set the same sequence with xbindkeys also.

http://www.linux.com/archive/articles/59494

And we don't have to use F1. We can use some unused key. There
are many useless keys in the keyboard. More if you have a
multimedia keyboard.

We can set it to good purpose this way.

Another advantage is that of practical use in this thing.

Hotkeys help you to simply switch the CPU on. Don't care if
you are in X or any terminal even. No need to switch on the
monitor. Just press a hotkey and get your job done.

Usually this makes sense when you want to play a song.

I have been wanting this for a long time but never got there.

> Overall, I have found that messing around with loadkeys is only
> useful if you _only_ use the Linux console. Even in that case it is
> better to define key sequences in specific applications rather than
> replacing the characters that the console stuffs into the buffer.

Sorry but I beg to differ.

I even think that you could be wrong here. We are only replacing
the string buffer , and in this case for F1 it was a totally
useless representation. We are not really diddling with the
keycodes or anything like that.

Having the same key bindings at both X and console is what I
want.

Now my problem is that there would be no loadkeys under
OpenBSD and I will be back to square one. But that is my
problem.

> Most terminal applications (vi,emacs,mc,git,screen ...) and a few
> graphical ones (like Emacs-with-X, gvim) allow you to assign commands
> or character strings to key sequences.

Not useful I think. As I said, the use case is different.

I don't even want to switch on the monitor.


> The later in the food chain that you assign a key sequence, the more
> likely it is that the meaning (semantics) can be application specific.
>
> It is true that it would be nice if there was a general way to say
> something like the following for all applications at once:
>  F1 should be help
>  F2 should be prompt for command/function
>  F3 should be prompt for external file/URL
> and so on. Moreover, this should be user configurable in one place
> for all applications.
>
> Clearly this needs some kind of hotkey callback library that all
> applications should link to. Perhaps the Desktop Environments do this
> but I wouldn't know since I don't really use them.

I would not get pedagogical on this.

I for one wanted this hotkey business for a long time.

-Girish

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Re: [Ilugc] Key Bindings

2009-09-02 Thread Kapil Hari Paranjape
Hello,

On Thu, 03 Sep 2009, Girish Venkatachalam wrote:
> Set it to
> 
> string F1 = "\033[[ls -l\n"

This looks wrong. I think it should be
 string F1 = "ls -l\n"
The additional Esc+[+[ seems to be unneccesary.

> Obviously this done not work in xterms. I never got that to work.

The above key sequence settings may cause additional problems with X.
For example, did you use "xev" to check whether pressing "F1" still
gives the "F1" XKSymbol after this wierd definition?

Overall, I have found that messing around with loadkeys is only
useful if you _only_ use the Linux console. Even in that case it is
better to define key sequences in specific applications rather than
replacing the characters that the console stuffs into the buffer.

Most terminal applications (vi,emacs,mc,git,screen ...) and a few
graphical ones (like Emacs-with-X, gvim) allow you to assign commands
or character strings to key sequences.

The later in the food chain that you assign a key sequence, the more
likely it is that the meaning (semantics) can be application specific.

It is true that it would be nice if there was a general way to say
something like the following for all applications at once:
 F1 should be help
 F2 should be prompt for command/function
 F3 should be prompt for external file/URL 
and so on. Moreover, this should be user configurable in one place
for all applications.

Clearly this needs some kind of hotkey callback library that all
applications should link to. Perhaps the Desktop Environments do this
but I wouldn't know since I don't really use them.

Regards,

Kapil.
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RE: [Ilugc] Key Bindings

2009-09-02 Thread சரவணன் அ

Hi,
Thanks for your information. It Gave me lot of information about key bindings.

A.Saravanan





> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 09:11:36 +0530
> Subject: Re: [Ilugc] Key Bindings
> From: girishvenkatacha...@gmail.com
> To: ilugc@ae.iitm.ac.in
> 
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 6:54 AM, Bharathi
> Subramanian wrote:
> >> Can you Tell how to create customized key bindings in linux
> >> terminal. For example i have run a "ls -l" when pressing F1 Key in
> >> terminal.
> >
> > Read man loadkeys
> >
> 
> Thanks Bharathi. I read the manpages and had to spend time
> searching the Internet till I got halfway. I could get F5 to
> print a string.
> 
> But I wanted enter also to be pressed. Then I saw this page.
> 
> http://www.hermann-uwe.de/tips-and-tricks/showkey-loadkeys-tricks
> 
> It is not so obvious what to do. This page also helped me.
> 
> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Keyboard-and-Console-HOWTO-15.html
> 
> This is what I did.
> 
> You cannot set a new keymap unless you are root. It is obvious
> but not mentioned anywhere.
> 
> So this is what I did.
> 
> Login as root.
> 
> # dumpkeys > keys.map
> 
> # vim keys.map
> 
> In this case you want to search for a line like this,
> 
> string F1 = "\033[[A"
> 
> It occurs in line number 662 in my case. I am sure it is going to
> be the same in yours too.
> 
> Set it to
> 
> string F1 = "\033[[ls -l\n"
> 
> Then load the new keymap.
> 
> # loadkeys keys.map
> 
> Then go to a different virtual console , login as yourself and
> press 'F1'.
> 
> Voila. It now works!
> 
> But you have to be logged in of course. ;)
> 
> Obviously this done not work in xterms. I never got that to work.
> 
> That is a separate project involving a different set of programs I think.
> 
> -Girish
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Re: [Ilugc] Key Bindings

2009-09-02 Thread Girish Venkatachalam
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 6:54 AM, Bharathi
Subramanian wrote:
>> Can you Tell how to create customized key bindings in linux
>> terminal. For example i have run a "ls -l" when pressing F1 Key in
>> terminal.
>
> Read man loadkeys
>

Thanks Bharathi. I read the manpages and had to spend time
searching the Internet till I got halfway. I could get F5 to
print a string.

But I wanted enter also to be pressed. Then I saw this page.

http://www.hermann-uwe.de/tips-and-tricks/showkey-loadkeys-tricks

It is not so obvious what to do. This page also helped me.

http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Keyboard-and-Console-HOWTO-15.html

This is what I did.

You cannot set a new keymap unless you are root. It is obvious
but not mentioned anywhere.

So this is what I did.

Login as root.

# dumpkeys > keys.map

# vim keys.map

In this case you want to search for a line like this,

string F1 = "\033[[A"

It occurs in line number 662 in my case. I am sure it is going to
be the same in yours too.

Set it to

string F1 = "\033[[ls -l\n"

Then load the new keymap.

# loadkeys keys.map

Then go to a different virtual console , login as yourself and
press 'F1'.

Voila. It now works!

But you have to be logged in of course. ;)

Obviously this done not work in xterms. I never got that to work.

That is a separate project involving a different set of programs I think.

-Girish
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Re: [Ilugc] Key Bindings

2009-09-02 Thread Bharathi Subramanian
> Can you Tell how to create customized key bindings in linux
> terminal. For example i have run a "ls -l" when pressing F1 Key in
> terminal.

Read man loadkeys

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Re: [Ilugc] Key Bindings

2009-09-02 Thread Girish Venkatachalam
2009/9/2 சரவணன் அ :
>
> Hi,
> Can you Tell how to create customized key bindings in linux terminal. For 
> example i have run a "ls -l" when pressing F1 Key in terminal.
>

Sorry I dunno the answer but I want to know the answer. :)

I know there is xbindkeys in X but if you mean console, then it
might involve something else.

I am curious. Nice question.

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Re: [Ilugc] Changing default CFLAGS flags for gcc

2009-09-02 Thread Girish Venkatachalam
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:06 AM, narendra babu wrote:
>
> hi ,
>
> I have lot of makefiles  , by default gcc geneartes 64 bit executable on 64 
> machine  but i need to change to 32 bit , dont want to change the makefiles .

Ok.


> Instead is there anyway i can change default flags at command line for gcc

I think there is.

> Can i set environment variable
> export CFLAGS=-m32 CXX=-m32  so that by gcc takes CFLAGS or CXX to generate 
> 32bit code instead of 64 bit code by default .

I dunno which one gets preference. You have to check and read
the documentation on GNU Make.

If the Makefile CFLAGS takes preference then you will have no
choice but to modify it in all Makefiles.

I will give you a command by which you can do it in one stroke.

Typically CFLAGS will already be used in Makefiles. So you want
to add to it. I am assuming here that you are not having any flag
that will reset this -m32 or whatever flag you want to set.

Then this command will change all files at one go.

$ vim -p foo/Makefile ba/Makefile foo/bar/Makefile

Inside vim enter this command:

:tabdo :%s/CFLAGS=/CFLAGS+=-m32/g

If this command goes through then you can save all files and
exit at one stroke with

:tabdo wq

Please remember that you may not get the same results I expect.

You should follow along these lines.

If you don't like tabbed vim, you could go for :bufdo if you use vi
or vim without -p flag. That should give the same results too.

>
> So in simple i want to chnage the gcc default flag settings
>
> Like $CFLAGS=-m32 gcc hello.c should generate me 32 bit code on a 64 bit 
> machine instead of 64 bit .

I dunno this. I have never used a 64 bit machine.

> Note : As by default all my makefiles can take the default CFLAGS which is 
> set as environment variable .
>

I guess so.

-Girish

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Re: [Ilugc] Changing default CFLAGS flags for gcc

2009-09-02 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 12:06:56AM +0530, narendra babu wrote:
> I have lot of makefiles  , by default gcc geneartes 64 bit executable on 64 
> machine  but i need to change to 32 bit , dont want to change the makefiles .
> 
> Instead is there anyway i can change default flags at command line for gcc
> 
> Can i set environment variable 
> export CFLAGS=-m32 CXX=-m32  so that by gcc takes CFLAGS or CXX to generate 
> 32bit code instead of 64 bit code by default .
> 
> So in simple i want to chnage the gcc default flag settings
>   
> Like $CFLAGS=-m32 gcc hello.c should generate me 32 bit code on a 64 bit 
> machine instead of 64 bit .
> 
> Note : As by default all my makefiles can take the default CFLAGS which is 
> set as environment variable .

Well, why don't you try it?

Consider this Makefile:

all:
echo CFLAGS are $(CFLAGS)

Now, this is the result of running it:

[$ /tmp] make
echo CFLAGS are
CFLAGS are

[$ /tmp] CFLAGS=-m32 make
echo CFLAGS are -m32
CFLAGS are -m32

HTH.

Kumar
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Re: [Ilugc] Want to dig into System Software

2009-09-02 Thread Krishna
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 7:22 PM, bala chandar wrote:

> Hi luggies,
>   I m studying System Software subject in my current semester( 7th
> sem B.Tech IT ).I like this subject very much and i want to see the
> real things that actually going behind a compiler,assembler,loader
> practically.Can i see the Symbol tables,object codes,executable codes
> (Know it is not human readable but want to see the crap in it) of a
> program.Is there any tool for it? or can i see those things with gcc?
>
Use this debugger DDD [1] Its really a good starter for whatever u mentioned


[1] http://www.gnu.org/software/ddd/

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Re: [Ilugc] Too many connection in MYSQL

2009-09-02 Thread senthilraja P
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Ramkumar  wrote:

> Dear Friends,
>   I changed max_connection value into 500.Then when i login
> through MYSQL Administrator and try to see threads.That shows number of
> sleeping threads.How can i rectify this sleeping threads.Then these threads
> will affect MYSQL DataBase's performance?.Thanks in advance again...
>
>
We faced this issue for long time..  atlast found out that this occurs when
the number of connections configured in Apache is more than the number of
mysql connections..

So, check the apache configuration, and also Mysql configuration, and make
sure, that the number of mysql connections is more than the number of
max_connection in apache.

This should definitely solve the problem..

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[Ilugc] Changing default CFLAGS flags for gcc

2009-09-02 Thread narendra babu

hi ,

I have lot of makefiles  , by default gcc geneartes 64 bit executable on 64 
machine  but i need to change to 32 bit , dont want to change the makefiles .

Instead is there anyway i can change default flags at command line for gcc

Can i set environment variable 
export CFLAGS=-m32 CXX=-m32  so that by gcc takes CFLAGS or CXX to generate 
32bit code instead of 64 bit code by default .

So in simple i want to chnage the gcc default flag settings
  
Like $CFLAGS=-m32 gcc hello.c should generate me 32 bit code on a 64 bit 
machine instead of 64 bit .

Note : As by default all my makefiles can take the default CFLAGS which is set 
as environment variable .


Thanks and regards
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Re: [Ilugc] Want to dig into System Software

2009-09-02 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi,

--- On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:52 PM, bala
chandar wrote:
| I like this subject very much and i want to see the
| real things that actually going behind a compiler,assembler,loader
| practically.Can i see the Symbol tables,object codes,executable codes
\--

Yes. You can use objdump (for example).

---
| (Know it is not human readable but want to see the crap in it)
\--

It is not crap.

---
| Is there any tool for it? or can i see those things with gcc?
\--

Go through these links:

Advanced GCC workshop:
http://www.cse.iitb.ac.in/~uday/gcc-workshop/

GCC Internals:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/GNU_C_Compiler_Internals

An introduction to GCC:
http://www.network-theory.co.uk/docs/gccintro/

The Definitive Guide to GCC:
http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/book_review_definitive_guide_to_gcc

In future, use a search engine before you ask questions.
http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before

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[Ilugc] Re:SFD-2009 - Kurta (Raman.P)

2009-09-02 Thread bala chandar
>Inspired by FSF-India, we explored the possibility of preparing Kurta
>for the SFD 2009.
I hope a full hand T shirt ( Green+white ) with collar and
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[Ilugc] Want to dig into System Software

2009-09-02 Thread bala chandar
Hi luggies,
   I m studying System Software subject in my current semester( 7th
sem B.Tech IT ).I like this subject very much and i want to see the
real things that actually going behind a compiler,assembler,loader
practically.Can i see the Symbol tables,object codes,executable codes
(Know it is not human readable but want to see the crap in it) of a
program.Is there any tool for it? or can i see those things with gcc?

Syllabus :

UNIT I  INTRODUCTION
8
System software and machine architecture – The Simplified
Instructional Computer (SIC) - Machine architecture - Data and
instruction formats - addressing modes - instruction sets - I/O and
programming.

UNIT II ASSEMBLERS  
10
Basic assembler functions - A simple SIC assembler – Assembler
algorithm and data structures - Machine dependent assembler features -
Instruction formats and addressing modes – Program relocation -
Machine independent assembler features - Literals – Symbol-defining
statements – Expressions - One pass assemblers and Multi pass
assemblers - Implementation example - MASM assembler.

UNIT IIILOADERS AND LINKERS 
9
Basic loader functions - Design of an Absolute Loader – A Simple
Bootstrap Loader - Machine dependent loader features - Relocation –
Program Linking – Algorithm and Data Structures for Linking Loader -
Machine-independent loader features - Automatic Library Search –
Loader Options - Loader design options - Linkage Editors – Dynamic
Linking – Bootstrap Loaders - Implementation example - MSDOS linker(
See the Dominance of Microsoft ).

UNIT IV MACRO PROCESSORS
9
Basic macro processor functions - Macro Definition and Expansion –
Macro Processor Algorithm and data structures - Machine-independent
macro processor features - Concatenation of Macro Parameters –
Generation of Unique Labels – Conditional Macro Expansion – Keyword
Macro Parameters-Macro within Macro-Implementation example - MASM
Macro Processor – ANSI C Macro language.

UNIT V  SYSTEM SOFTWARE TOOLS   
9
Text editors - Overview of the Editing Process - User Interface –
Editor Structure. - Interactive debugging systems - Debugging
functions and capabilities – Relationship with other parts of the
system – User-Interface Criteria.


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[Ilugc] Key Bindings

2009-09-02 Thread சரவணன் அ

Hi,
Can you Tell how to create customized key bindings in linux terminal. For 
example i have run a "ls -l" when pressing F1 Key in terminal.

A.Saravanan













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Re: [Ilugc] ddns update

2009-09-02 Thread Girish Venkatachalam
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Ashish Verma wrote:
> HI,
>
> I am trying to configure dunamic dns for my server, I have tried various
> configs from the net, however it just doesn't work. I have attached the dns
> and dhcp files. Please guide me on this.
>

Go to dyndns.org and download and configure the ddclient perl
script.

It involves some work but you can get it working.

-Girish

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Re: [Ilugc] face as password

2009-09-02 Thread Common Man
>On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Shrinivasan T wrote:
> is it possible to use our face as password?
>
> http://www.keylemon.com/ gives a software for windows.
>
> is it available in linux?


Look at OpenCv  at http://opencv.willowgarage.com/wiki/.
BSD licensed C libraries  to develop  industrial strength Computer
Vision applications.


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Re: Re: [Ilugc] startup issue with mysql daemon

2009-09-02 Thread Mahalingam Subramaniam
-- Original Message --
From: Shrinivasan T 
To: ILUG-C 
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 15:14:20 +0530
Subject: Re: [Ilugc] startup issue with mysql daemon
Hi,
see the link.
http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/762/solve-cant-connect-to-local-mysql-server-through-socket-tmpmysqlsock/
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Hi all
the link available at 
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/tarball-mysql-installation-problem-672472/
  has resolved start up issue with mysal daemon. I wish to thank one and all 
who had rendered their valuable inputs towards this.
with thanks & regards
s.mahalingam
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[Ilugc] ddns update

2009-09-02 Thread Ashish Verma
HI,

I am trying to configure dunamic dns for my server, I have tried various
configs from the net, however it just doesn't work. I have attached the dns
and dhcp files. Please guide me on this.

Regards,
Ashish


dhcpd.conf
Description: Binary data


named.conf
Description: Binary data
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[Ilugc] UbuntuDeveloperWeek - Day 3

2009-09-02 Thread Shrinivasan T
Hi,

Today is Day 3 of ubuntu developer week.

Today's Timetable:

Wed 2nd Sep
   16.00 UTC Getting started with Launchpad development -- gmb
   17.00 UTC Developing websites with Django -- lukasz and stuartm
   18.00 UTC Hooking your app into your desktop CouchDB - aquarius
   19.00 UTC Writing secure software -- kees
   20.00 UTC Bug lifecycle, Best practices, Workflow, Tags,
Upstream, Big picture -- jcastro and pedro_

Indian Standard Time IST = UTC+5.30

The sessions will happen in #ubuntu-classroom on irc.freenode.net.
Check out UbuntuDeveloperWeek/JoiningIn for more info.




Day 2 logs are available at

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/devweek0909/FixSmallBugs
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/devweek0909/Kernel
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/devweek0909/PkgUpdate
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/devweek0909/LP_API
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/devweek0909/ApportPkgHooks

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[Ilugc] SFD-2009 - Kurta

2009-09-02 Thread Raman.P
Dear luggies
Inspired by FSF-India, we explored the possibility of preparing Kurta
for the SFD 2009. Though I couldn't get original image of the kurta from FSF 
site, it can be seen in the followng link.

http://old.fsfe.org/var/fsfe/storage/images/fellows/greve/img/georg_cns/203260-1-eng-GB/georg_cns.png

Our enquries reveal follow things
a. Cost : about Rs.225-250.
b. Minimum order : 30
c. Cost includes log
d. Cotton material 
e. Can be made in different size.

Can we gohead and place orders? If yes
1. Someone please design a simple logo  for printing/embroidery
2. Please confirm your order.

The manufacturer needs minimun 10 days time,so please respond quickly.


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Re: [Ilugc] Multimedia Application in Linux

2009-09-02 Thread Kushal Das
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Girish
Venkatachalam wrote:

>
> gimp is hard to use but comprehensive. I don't think it is as easy
> and powerful as photoshop. (I have never used photoshop)
Completely wrong. If you don't know how to use it, try [1] to learn more.

[1] meetthegimp.org

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Re: [Ilugc] Multimedia Application in Linux

2009-09-02 Thread Raja Subramanian
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Girish Venkatachalam
 wrote:
> I use tgif for most purposes. There are several technical drawing tools
> like Microsoft Visio. I use xfig and one more nice tool I forget.

You're probably referring to Gnome Dia www.gnome.org/projects/dia.

- Raja
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