[Ilugc] Making a paper CD case

[Shrinivasan T]

 Hi,

Say you got a spindle of 50-100 CD's and you're eager to share out the
latest karmic koala or fedora 12 CD's or DVD's with your neighbours.
Giving away CD's loose is definitely not a good guarantee that all the
rough handling and the dust will allow the OS to boot up properly. So
is it not possible to also buy 100 CD/DVD jackets.

What we can do is check out an illustrated tutorial like the one at

http://www.papercdcase.com/about.php

and make your own paper CD cases.
You could dig a little to find out, how to have CD graphics printed on
the backside, how to strengthen the case and so on.




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[Ilugc] Gtalk - voice chat in Empathy using ubuntu 9.10

[Shrinivasan T]

Wow.

Empathy in ubuntu 9.10 rocks with adding voice chat support to google talk.

Now I am talking to gtalk friend using empathy.

Thanks to the community.

Expecting yahoo voice chat in linux.



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Re: [Ilugc] Gtalk - voice chat in Empathy using ubuntu 9.10

[Arun SAG]

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Shrinivasan T wrote:

>
> >Expecting yahoo voice chat in linux.
>

Try gyachi;

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[Ilugc] Media and FOSS

[Raji Seetharaman]

Hi

Nowadays Media plays a vital role in promoting FOSS activities.

Read  the articles in today's HINDU

http://www.thehindu.com/2009/11/01/stories/2009110151301100.htm

http://www.thehindu.com/2009/11/01/stories/2009110151311100.htm

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Re: [Ilugc] [TAMTRANS] standard words

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Saturday 31 Oct 2009 7:26:31 pm amachu wrote:
> > account - கணக்கு
> 
doesnt sound right
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[Ilugc] How to attend incoming call in empathy?

[Shrinivasan T]

Friends.

Any one tried Empathy with gtalk?

I can call the gtalk users.
but, when they call me, I hear the ringing tone.
But, I dont know how to attend.

Anyone knows this?

Please share your findings.

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Re: [Ilugc] [TAMTRANS] standard words

[Vinod Parthasarathy]

2009/11/1 Kenneth Gonsalves 

> On Saturday 31 Oct 2009 7:26:31 pm amachu wrote:
> > > account - கணக்கு
> >
> doesnt sound right
>
On the contrary, it is the most appropriate word for account(as in user
account).

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[Ilugc] Mailing List Guidelines: Monthly reminder

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Mailing List Guidelines: Monthly reminder:

1. Use a proper subject line.

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Top-posting.
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Use interleaved, trimmed posting



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Re: [Ilugc] [TAMTRANS] standard words

[Mano]

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Vinod Parthasarathy  wrote:

> 2009/11/1 Kenneth Gonsalves 
>
> > On Saturday 31 Oct 2009 7:26:31 pm amachu wrote:
> > > > account - கணக்கு
> > >
> > doesnt sound right
> >
> On the contrary, it is the most appropriate word for account(as in user
> account).
>
>
The original point made by KG is that the translation should NOT be a
literal translation but something that captures the spirit of the concept.
கணக்கு seems to be the straight forward word now, but maybe someone can
think of something better!!

regds,
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Re: [Ilugc] How to attend incoming call in empathy?

[Gourav Shah]

- On my empathy, whenever I get a incoming call, the icon starts flashing,
and if I double click on it, it asks whether to answer the call.
- There was an an issue with older version of empathy, where one would not
hear the ring but the icon would flash, and one needed to click on that and
press start call button.

thanks
gourav


On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Shrinivasan T wrote:

> Friends.
>
> Any one tried Empathy with gtalk?
>
> I can call the gtalk users.
> but, when they call me, I hear the ringing tone.
> But, I dont know how to attend.
>
> Anyone knows this?
>
> Please share your findings.
>
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> T.Shrinivasan
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Re: [Ilugc] [TAMTRANS] standard words

[Vinod Parthasarathy]

2009/11/1 Mano 

> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Vinod Parthasarathy <
> vinnytrycl...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > 2009/11/1 Kenneth Gonsalves 
> >
> > > On Saturday 31 Oct 2009 7:26:31 pm amachu wrote:
> > > > > account - கணக்கு
> > > >
> > > doesnt sound right
> > >
> > On the contrary, it is the most appropriate word for account(as in user
> > account).
> >
> >
> The original point made by KG is that the translation should NOT be a
> literal translation but something that captures the spirit of the concept.
> கணக்கு seems to be the straight forward word now, but maybe someone can
> think of something better!!
>
What is even more important than capturing the concept is to use words that
are in common usage. KG has stressed this point also. In my experience, I
have seen the word கணக்கு being used for account(as in user account, both in
and out of a computing context) frequently by tamil-speaking people. Like I
said in a previous thread, new, not-so-used words that capture the concept
better, should be welcomed, but at the same time, commonly used words should
also be mentioned to make it easy for the user.

>
> regds,
> mano
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Re: [Ilugc] How to attend incoming call in empathy?

[Shrinivasan T]

Hi,

I am not getting any flash. but hearing the rings.

Looking for the updates from ubuntu.

Will check in other machines tomorrow.


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[Ilugc] Reg: video downloader

[aishwarya .]

Hi,
There is a software called the "Internet Download Manager" for windows.
The main functionality (there are also many other functionalities, the most
attracted one is this) of the software is , when there is a video played in
a site like  youtube or any embedded video, we get an arrow mark on top
asking whether to download the video. If we click the arrow it starts
downloading immediately even if the videos are copy protected.
Is there any possibility of creating such a package for linux?
If so can anyone pls suggest me some ideas..

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Re: [Ilugc] Reg: video downloader

[Arun SAG]

Hi,

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 6:50 AM, aishwarya .  wrote:

> > If we click the arrow it starts
> >downloading immediately even if the videos are copy protected.
>

what do you mean by copy protected? Do you mean videos that you cannot
download directly to your disk?

> >Is there any possibility of creating such a package for linux?
> >If so can anyone pls suggest me some ideas..
>

All flash videos will be stored in your /tmp directory as you view them in
browser with the name Flash
If you need apps to download youtube videos check this out,
http://code.google.com/p/cclive/
http://clive.sourceforge.net/
http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Video/Mobile-Media-Converter-44272.shtml


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Re: [Ilugc] [TAMTRANS] standard words

[Mohan Sundaram]

On 01/11/2009 22:48, Vinod Parthasarathy w

The original point made by KG is that the translation should NOT be a
literal translation but something that captures the spirit of the concept.
கணக்கு seems to be the straight forward word now, but maybe someone can
think of something better!!


What is even more important than capturing the concept is to use words that
are in common usage. KG has stressed this point also. In my experience, I
have seen the word கணக்கு being used for account(as in user account, both in
and out of a computing context) frequently by tamil-speaking people. Like I
said in a previous thread, new, not-so-used words that capture the concept
better, should be welcomed, but at the same time, commonly used words should
also be mentioned to make it easy for the user.


The Indian Bank Tamil site also seems to use the same word. Is it not 
considered to be commonly understood or an acceptable term then?


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Re: [Ilugc] Reg: video downloader

[aishwarya .]

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Arun SAG  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 6:50 AM, aishwarya . 
> wrote:
>
> > > If we click the arrow it starts
> > >downloading immediately even if the videos are copy protected.
> >
>
> what do you mean by copy protected? Do you mean videos that you cannot
> download directly to your disk?
>
>
>   Copy protected in the sense, they cant be downloaded, just like for
example some mj videos, some tv shows, etc.
k now leave the part of "copy protection", if you see a video in any site,
the download manager should ask for the download action/option, is it
possible..?
I'll try to upload some screenshots reg that and i'll send the link.


>
> All flash videos will be stored in your /tmp directory as you view them in
> browser with the name Flash
> If you need apps to download youtube videos check this out,
> http://code.google.com/p/cclive/
> http://clive.sourceforge.net/
>
> http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Video/Mobile-Media-Converter-44272.shtml
>
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Re: [Ilugc] Reg: video downloader

[aishwarya .]

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 7:39 AM, aishwarya .  wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Arun SAG  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 6:50 AM, aishwarya . 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > > If we click the arrow it starts
>> > >downloading immediately even if the videos are copy protected.
>> >
>>
>>


There's an image here...
http://technodorm.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/download-videos-with-internet-download-manager.gif

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[Ilugc] .a-tip-a-day. (gdb - debug C programs compiled with gcc -g )

[Girish Venkatachalam]

Dearest Luggies,

I am very sorry for not sending language tip yesterday. I was away
from the computer. I shall send today
evening.

gdb is the canonical C debugger. It is not a graphical tool and there
is a graphical front end called
 ddd developed by Germans. But I did not like it much.

gdb comes built in with many many features like bash. It has
completion features and several aliasing
features. For instance you can type

(gdb) list

or

(gdb) l

or

(gdb) li

with the same result.

And it is a very comprehensive debugging tool. Nowadays I don't rely
on gdb much since I use printf()s to
track what is going on in my code.

But gdb is very essential for program development in C.

The most important commands in gdb are (at least according to me)

o (gdb) where

shows the stack trace and it will tell you which sequence of function
calls crashed your program

o (gdb) list

shows you the next 10 line numbers

o (gdb) b main

sets the breakpoint at main. If you have the same function name
declared in multiple source files as static, then
you can say b foo.c:barfunction to specify that you want to break at
barfunction() in foo.c file

o (gdb) step

or 's' goes into the function. Very useful for stepping into functions
after breakpoint.

o (gdb) next

or 'n' goes to the next function. You can skip loops using 'n'.

o (gdb) continue

or 'c' continues beyond the breakpoint.

Debuggers are a big topic. Hope this gets you started.

-Girish



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Re: [Ilugc] .a-tip-a-day. (kill - get signal list and kill processes)

[Girish Venkatachalam]

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Salvadesswaran P.S.
 wrote:
>> By default SIGKILL is sent I think.
>
> No, signal ID 15 (SIGTERM) is sent by default.

Sorry mea culpa. My mistake.

I had a doubt that I was wrong. Hence the "I think" part.

Thanks for the correction. Much appreciated.

This is not pettifogging. You did the right thing.

I was lamenting to my friends that LUG is full of pettifoggers.

This is a welcome change. Keep it up.

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[Ilugc] Meaning of pettifogging

[Girish Venkatachalam]

$ dict pettifogging

  2. To debate or quarrel over unimportant, trifling matters.
[PJC]

 3. To use subterfuge, deception, or flattery for any purpose;
to practice chicanery.
[PJC]

>From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 [gcide]:

  Pettifogging \Pet"ti*fog`ging\, a.
 Paltry; quibbling; mean.
 [1913 Webster]

>From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 [gcide]:

  Pettifogging \Pet"ti*fog`ging\, n.
 Pettifoggery.
 [1913 Webster]

>From WordNet (r) 2.0 [wn]:

  pettifogging
   adj : quibbling over insignificant details; "caviling pettifoggers
 and quiggling pleaders"-Edmund Burke; "her nagging and
 carping attack"; "thought her editor unnecessarily
 nitpicking"; "a pettifogging lawyer's mind"; "had no
 patience with quibbling critics" [syn: {caviling}, {carping},
  {nitpicking}, {quibbling}]

>From WordNet (r) 2.0 [wn]:

  pettifog
   v : argue over petty things; "Let's not quibble over pennies"
   [syn: {quibble}, {niggle}, {bicker}, {squabble}, {brabble}]
   [also: {pettifogging}, {pettifogged}]

---

This is just an excerpt.

You people keep doing that all the time.

You waste my time. You waste your time. You make everyone unhappy.

Stop it!

-Girish


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Re: [Ilugc] .a-tip-a-day. (kill - get signal list and kill processes)

[rakhi india]

> $ ps aux | grep 
>
> Alternatively, there's also pgrep
>
How to find/search the id of a process running background.
Say, i started the process using '&'   -  $tktalk &
If i don't know the pid of tktalk , could you let me how to find it.

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Re: [Ilugc] [TAMTRANS] standard words

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Monday 02 Nov 2009 7:29:02 am Mohan Sundaram wrote:
> > What is even more important than capturing the concept is to use words
> > that are in common usage. KG has stressed this point also. In my
> > experience, I have seen the word கணக்கு being used for account(as in user
> > account, both in and out of a computing context) frequently by
> > tamil-speaking people. Like I said in a previous thread, new, not-so-used
> > words that capture the concept better, should be welcomed, but at the
> > same time, commonly used words should also be mentioned to make it easy
> > for the user.
> 
> The Indian Bank Tamil site also seems to use the same word. Is it not 
> considered to be commonly understood or an acceptable term then?
> 
கணக்கு is the correct word for bank account, the doubt is whether the common 
man 
will get the sense of it when it is used as a word for account on a site. Such 
an account has a connotation of 'membership'. So some derivation of உறுப்பினர் 
may 
be more appropriate.
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Re: [Ilugc] [TAMTRANS] standard words

[Vinod Parthasarathy]

2009/11/2 Kenneth Gonsalves 

> On Monday 02 Nov 2009 7:29:02 am Mohan Sundaram wrote:
> > > What is even more important than capturing the concept is to use words
> > > that are in common usage. KG has stressed this point also. In my
> > > experience, I have seen the word கணக்கு being used for account(as in
> user
> > > account, both in and out of a computing context) frequently by
> > > tamil-speaking people. Like I said in a previous thread, new,
> not-so-used
> > > words that capture the concept better, should be welcomed, but at the
> > > same time, commonly used words should also be mentioned to make it easy
> > > for the user.
> >
> > The Indian Bank Tamil site also seems to use the same word. Is it not
> > considered to be commonly understood or an acceptable term then?
> >
> கணக்கு is the correct word for bank account, the doubt is whether the
> common man
> will get the sense of it when it is used as a word for account on a site.
> Such
> an account has a connotation of 'membership'. So some derivation of
> உறுப்பினர் may

be more appropriate.
>
Could be, but even for things like yahoo account, people are widely using
the word கணக்கு now.

Vinod.

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Re: [Ilugc] Reg: video downloader

[Roshan George]

On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 06:50 +0530, aishwarya . wrote:
> Hi,
> There is a software called the "Internet Download Manager" for windows.
> The main functionality (there are also many other functionalities, the most
> attracted one is this) of the software is , when there is a video played in
> a site like  youtube or any embedded video, we get an arrow mark on top
> asking whether to download the video. If we click the arrow it starts
> downloading immediately even if the videos are copy protected.
> Is there any possibility of creating such a package for linux?
> If so can anyone pls suggest me some ideas..

Not sure what you mean by copy-protected, but the Video DownloadHelper
extension  for
Firefox will help you download videos from a number of sites. 

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Re: [Ilugc] .a-tip-a-day. (kill - get signal list and kill processes)

[Roshan George]

On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 08:22 +0530, rakhi india wrote:
> > $ ps aux | grep 
> >
> > Alternatively, there's also pgrep
> >
> How to find/search the id of a process running background.
> Say, i started the process using '&'   -  $tktalk &
> If i don't know the pid of tktalk , could you let me how to find it.

The answer is in the email you responded to. Use `pgrep`.

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Re: [Ilugc] Java Sound problem in fedora11

[JAGANADH G]

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Ashok Gautham wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 12:26 AM, JAGANADH G  wrote:
> > Dear all
> >
> > I am using Fedora-11 . I was trying to record sound with a Java
> application.
> > But it is not recording any sound. But the Sound Recorder is working
> fine.
> > Any solution for that .
>
> IcedTea does not have the sound APIs. That could be the problem. Use the
> Sun JDK or OpenJDK7
>
>
I am using SUN-JDK 1_16_16

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Re: [Ilugc] .a-tip-a-day. (kill - get signal list and kill processes)

[steve]

On 11/02/2009 09:40 AM, Roshan George wrote:

On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 08:22 +0530, rakhi india wrote:

 >  $ ps aux | grep
 >
 >  Alternatively, there's also pgrep
 >
 How to find/search the id of a process running background.
 Say, i started the process using '&'   -  $tktalk&
 If i don't know the pid of tktalk , could you let me how to find it.


The answer is in the email you responded to. Use `pgrep`.

Although if you are looking specifically for backgrounded jobs, you could use 
the bash builtin 'jobs':


$ jobs -l

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