Re: [Ilugc] WHich version of gcc is good

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 10:59 +0530, Arun Khan wrote:
> > So you know how good an OS it is.
> 
> Please elaborate. 

he is a *bsd guy with a very low opinion of linux.
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Re: [Ilugc] WHich version of gcc is good

[Vignesh Nandha Kumar]

On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 6:01 AM, Girish Venkatachalam <
girishvenkatacha...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Linux does not come default with gcc.
>

I'm assuming that you are talking about GNU/Linux, not just the kernel.
AFAIK, Ubuntu and Fedora come default with gcc.

>
> So you know how good an OS it is.
>

Ya that is a good OS and that's why we are talking in THIS mailing list.


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Re: [Ilugc] WHich version of gcc is good

[Arun Khan]

On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 6:01 AM, Girish Venkatachalam
 wrote:

> Linux does not come default with gcc.

While the above statement may be true - please note that everyone
using Linux is not a C/C++ developer.   The flexibility is in the
packaging system each distro adopts.   Most distros have a
"Development" package group.Developers can choose to install the
relevant group.

> So you know how good an OS it is.

Please elaborate.

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Re: [Ilugc] WHich version of gcc is good

[satyaakam goswami]

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 6:07 PM, narendra babu wrote:

> Hello folks ,
>
> I am interested to know which  is the best way os using the gcc compiler .
>
> 1) Should i use the gcc provided by the Linux distribution  which comes
> with their own patches and which is not the latest gcc ( for ex: RHEL 5.x
> or RHEL 6) or
> 2) Should i download the latest gcc from gnu website , install and start
> using it
>
yes you can do that , can also have multiple instances running .


>  option 2 has a catch , if  i don't use  vendor supplied gcc , the warranty
> will be void if some thing breaks in production and if support

issue is raised with vendor they will come back and ask which compiler is
> used .
>

you go to the GCC community , also you can think of hiring someone and pay.


>  But still i want to use the latest GCC compiler from gnu website because
> of lot of improvements and bug fixes .
>

yes go ahead and test in your Dev environment first.

  Please advise , is it best practise to get the latest gnu gcc from gnu
> website or to use vendor supplied gcc for real time production .
>

without knowing what you are trying to do or support , is the code  out
there somewhere to test ? without it cannot predict.


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Re: [Ilugc] WHich version of gcc is good

[Girish Venkatachalam]

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 6:07 PM, narendra babu  wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello folks ,
>
> I am interested to know which  is the best way os using the gcc compiler .
>
> 1) Should i use the gcc provided by the Linux distribution  which comes with 
> their own patches and which is not the latest gcc ( for ex: RHEL 5.x  or RHEL 
> 6) or
> 2) Should i download the latest gcc from gnu website , install and start 
> using it

This will not work.

> option 2 has a catch , if  i don't use  vendor supplied gcc , the warranty 
> will be void if some thing breaks in production and if support issue is 
> raised with vendor they will come back and ask which compiler is used .
>
> But still i want to use the latest GCC compiler from gnu website because of 
> lot of improvements and bug fixes .
>
> Please advise , is it best practise to get the latest gnu gcc from gnu 
> website or to use vendor supplied gcc for real time production .
>

Obviously you are ignoring the fact that a compiler does not work in
isolation but in tandem with
 the toolchain and other utilities like gdb, ld, gas and so on.

Never mess with gcc. Use whatever you have available either using the
package system or in base.

Linux does not come default with gcc.

So you know how good an OS it is.

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Re: [Ilugc] Problem with Phpmyadmin

[Vignesh Nandha Kumar]

Hi,

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 4:28 PM, RAKESH KUMAR wrote:

> I am getting this Error  #2002 Cannot log in to the MySQL server
>

This could be because the mysql server is not running. Make sure that by
running

$ sudo service mysql status

If you are using XAMPP, assuming you installed it at /opt, use the following
command

$ sudo /opt/lampp/lampp status

This may help :
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/access-denied.html

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Re: [Ilugc] Which is best IDE

[Natarajan V]

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Nataraj S Narayan  wrote:
> HI Natarajan
>
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Natarajan V  wrote:
>> Well, when I said that statement, I had already worked on VB, VC++,
>> Macros, eMbedded VC++,  Unix C++, PHP, PERL, Java, Delphi, Oracle
>> PL/SQL, DB2, MS SQL SP, SCHEME, Unix Shell Scripts, and a few names
>> that I forgot. All this across various OSs (DOS, Windows, AIX, HP UX,
>> Solaris, Various flavours of Linux, Windows for Mobile, etc..)

Forgot Mainframes and COBOL as well.


> You ought to be pretty old guy by now! In your seventies?

well.. am old enough for being one of the earliest members of the LUG.
But am at least 40 years younger than what you expect me to be :D

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Re: [Ilugc] Problem with Phpmyadmin

[Prasanna Venkadesh]

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 4:28 PM, RAKESH KUMAR wrote:

> I am getting this Error  #2002 Cannot log in to the MySQL server
>

I too got the same error, but re-installing PHPMYADMIN fixed my issue.
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Re: [Ilugc] Which is best IDE

[Arun Venkataswamy]

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 5:26 PM, sivakumar bharadhwaj wrote:

> dear arun,
>
> excellent explanation, clear points, and with very little bias, and
> still allowing the person who posted with enough independence to
> choose.
>
>
Thanks! :)
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[Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Sams College of Engineering and Technology, Thiruvallur Dt.

[Baskar Selvaraj]

Dear all,

Today we have setup a 30 seat FOSS Lab in Sams College of Engineering and
Technology, (http://www.samsengineering.org), Near Periyapalayam,
Thiruvallur Dt. for the Dept. of CSE.

Contact - Mr. Vellan - HOD/CSE

Thanks to our ILUG-C member / volunteer Mr. Jai Sathish kumar Ashok for his
valuable support in setting up the lab.

Regards

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Re: [Ilugc] information

[Preethi Shibani]

can u tell us where is the class going on and at wat time

--- On Thu, 7/14/11, Suresh G  wrote:

From: Suresh G 
Subject: [Ilugc] information
To: "ilugc@ae.iitm.ac.in" 
Date: Thursday, July 14, 2011, 2:35 PM



Hi sir  tis s suresh 3rd cse frm jaya enginnering college 

u've conducting daily classes for open source !!! could you  pls inform to our 
coll students y cos they r all interest to come an knw abt new talks of 
techonolgy ... 



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[Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Jerusalem College of Engineering, Kanchipuram Dt.

[Baskar Selvaraj]

Dear all,

Today we have setup a 22 seat FOSS Lab in Jerusalem College of Engineering (
http://www.jerusalemengg.ac.in), Near Velachery, Kanchipuram Dt. for the
Dept. of CSE.

Contact - Mr.Robin / HOD-CSE

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[Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Sri Balaji Chockalingam Engineering College, Arni, Thiruvannamalai Dt.

[Baskar Selvaraj]

Dear all,

Yesterday we have setup a 20 seat FOSS Lab in Sri Balaji Chockalingam
Engineering College, Arni, Thiruvannamalai Dt. for the Dept. of CSE.

Contact - Mr.Shankar - Lecturer / CSE

Thanks to our ILUG-C / KanchiLUG member Mr. Yasir Arafath for his valuable
support in setting up the lab.

Regards

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[Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Gojan School of Business and Technology, Thiruvallur Dt.

[Baskar Selvaraj]

Dear all,

Yesterday we have setup a 30 seat FOSS Lab in Gojan School of Business and
Technology (http://www.gojaneducation.com), RedHills, Thiruvallur Dt. for
the Dept. of CSE.

Contact - Mr.Prakash / System Administrator

Thanks to our ILUG-C member / volunteer Mr. Jai Sathish kumar Ashok for his
valuable support in setting up the lab.

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[Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in S.R.R. Engineering College, Kelambakkam, Kanchipuram Dt.

[Baskar Selvaraj]

Dear all,

Yesterday we have setup a 32 seat FOSS Lab in S.R.R. Engineering College (
http://www.srrenggcollege.in), Near Kelambakkam, Kanchipuram Dt. for the
Dept. of CSE.

Contact - Ms.Lenin - HOD / CSE

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Re: [Ilugc] FW: k12linux mount problem

[Baskar Selvaraj]

> /opt/ltsp/i386/  
> 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0*(rw,no_root_squash,sync)
>
>
> /etc/exports should be

/opt/ltsp/i386 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(ro,no_root_squash,sync)

it should be ro and not rw

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Re: [Ilugc] WHich version of gcc is good

[Siddhesh Poyarekar]

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 6:07 PM, narendra babu  wrote:
> option 2 has a catch , if  i don't use  vendor supplied gcc , the warranty 
> will be void if some thing breaks in production and if support issue is 
> raised with vendor they will come back and ask which compiler is used .
>
> But still i want to use the latest GCC compiler from gnu website because of 
> lot of improvements and bug fixes .

You need to invest time in seeing if the newer compiler improvements
actually make a difference to your application. Simply using a newer
compiler because it is 'new' is pointless. Most major bug fixes are
backported in vendor compilers (or you can get them backported), so
that should not be a bother. In fact the 'additional patches' you see
are almost always these backported fixes.


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Re: [Ilugc] Which is best IDE

[Nataraj S Narayan]

HI Natarajan

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Natarajan V  wrote:
> Well, when I said that statement, I had already worked on VB, VC++,
> Macros, eMbedded VC++,  Unix C++, PHP, PERL, Java, Delphi, Oracle
> PL/SQL, DB2, MS SQL SP, SCHEME, Unix Shell Scripts, and a few names
> that I forgot. All this across various OSs (DOS, Windows, AIX, HP UX,
> Solaris, Various flavours of Linux, Windows for Mobile, etc..)

You ought to be pretty old guy by now! In your seventies?

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Re: [Ilugc] WHich version of gcc is good

[Kumar Appaiah]

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 06:07:59PM +0530, narendra babu wrote:
> Hello folks ,
>  
> I am interested to know which  is the best way os using the gcc compiler .
>  
> 1) Should i use the gcc provided by the Linux distribution  which comes with 
> their own patches and which is not the latest gcc ( for ex: RHEL 5.x  or RHEL 
> 6) or
> 2) Should i download the latest gcc from gnu website , install and start 
> using it

You should use the gcc provided with the distribution, unless you have
a special requirement (a new feature, a new target architecture for
cross-compilation etc.).

> option 2 has a catch , if  i don't use  vendor supplied gcc , the warranty 
> will be void if some thing breaks in production and if support issue is 
> raised with vendor they will come back and ask which compiler is used .

Yes, so why void the warranty?

> But still i want to use the latest GCC compiler from gnu website because of 
> lot of improvements and bug fixes .

Most of the software included with distributions are fairly dependable
and stable. You should consider using an updated gcc only under the
event that you need a specific bug worked around or a specific new
feature. In my opinion, you can consider this option if you ever run
into such a situation (which, for ordinary usage, is unlikely).

> Please advise , is it best practise to get the latest gnu gcc from gnu 
> website or to use vendor supplied gcc for real time production .

It is advisable to use the bundled gcc.

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Re: [Ilugc] Which is best IDE

[Natarajan V]

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 3:52 PM, ashwin kesavan  wrote:
> On 15 July 2011 14:01, Natarajan V  wrote:
>> . In fact, if you learn to code properly, even the language is not a barrier 
>> :D (Do
>
> syntax of language Y when asked to switch to language Y. So in the end
> he would not have utilized real stuff behind language Y.


Well, when I said that statement, I had already worked on VB, VC++,
Macros, eMbedded VC++,  Unix C++, PHP, PERL, Java, Delphi, Oracle
PL/SQL, DB2, MS SQL SP, SCHEME, Unix Shell Scripts, and a few names
that I forgot. All this across various OSs (DOS, Windows, AIX, HP UX,
Solaris, Various flavours of Linux, Windows for Mobile, etc..)

I repeat, when you learn to code properly, you don't have a language
barrier. But, you are more worried about the syntax.

Consider a carpenter. a Good one. If he is well versed in his skills,
would the tools, electric/ CNC/ manual stop him completely? He
wouldn't bother. He might strugle a bit, but evantually he will get
along. Polititians who make public speachs in various langugages are
also a good example. They might not be perfect, but they get the job
done. At the end of the day, thats what matters more.

Let me tell you a story that I heard long ago:

A ship was caught in a storm. The captain was old and weak. Each of
his subordinates boasted that they could tie a particular type of knot
and they are very good with it. And each one of them took turns to try
their luck, in vain.

Finally, the captain put a knot and saved the ship. He then said that
he is not as strong as others and the knot that he tied wasn't as
strong as the others might have been capable of. But his version
worked. By knowing what works where, and applying the logic correctly
actually helped him to save the ship :-)


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[Ilugc] WHich version of gcc is good

[narendra babu]

Hello folks ,
 
I am interested to know which  is the best way os using the gcc compiler .
 
1) Should i use the gcc provided by the Linux distribution  which comes with 
their own patches and which is not the latest gcc ( for ex: RHEL 5.x  or RHEL 
6) or
2) Should i download the latest gcc from gnu website , install and start using 
it
 
option 2 has a catch , if  i don't use  vendor supplied gcc , the warranty will 
be void if some thing breaks in production and if support issue is raised with 
vendor they will come back and ask which compiler is used .
 
But still i want to use the latest GCC compiler from gnu website because of lot 
of improvements and bug fixes .
 
Please advise , is it best practise to get the latest gnu gcc from gnu website 
or to use vendor supplied gcc for real time production .
 
Thanks
Narendra
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Re: [Ilugc] FW: k12linux mount problem

[Raman.P]

--- On Fri, 15/7/11, ramesh kumar  wrote:

> k12linux in client boot error message
> 
> mount.nfs:access denied by the server while mounting
> 192.168.1.254:/opt/ltsp/i386
> 
> vi /etc/exports
> 
> /opt/ltsp/i386/ 
> 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0*(rw,no_root_squash,sync)
> 
> 

Please check log messages on the nfs-server. 
Check if there is is typing error in exports. I think the * is redundant there.
Try mounting /opt/ltsp/ manually in some other system in the network.
Check if some firewall rules prevents
what is the output /usr/bin/exportfs ?

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Re: [Ilugc] Which is best IDE

[sivakumar bharadhwaj]

dear arun,

excellent explanation, clear points, and with very little bias, and
still allowing the person who posted with enough independence to
choose.

thanks
s.sivakumar
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Re: [Ilugc] Which is best IDE

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 17:18 +0530, Arun Venkataswamy wrote:
> It
> gives the power of rapid application development (nearly VB like) 

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Re: [Ilugc] Which is best IDE

[Krishna]

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Arun Venkataswamy wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 11:08 AM, srinivasan kadn <
> linuxsriniva...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > I want to know which ide is better,
>
> Either NETBEANS or ECLIPSE.
> > Now i am using NETBEANS.
> >
> >
> Hi,
>
> If you are a new java developer it's important that you start with the
> command line. It helps you understand both the language and the IDE you
> would eventually use for writing larger applications.
>

Nice point, Also you can learn building similar to makefile system using
ant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Ant

Bye,
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Re: [Ilugc] Which is best IDE

[Arun Venkataswamy]

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 11:08 AM, srinivasan kadn  wrote:

> I want to know which ide is better,

Either NETBEANS or ECLIPSE.
> Now i am using NETBEANS.
>
>
Hi,

If you are a new java developer it's important that you start with the
command line. It helps you understand both the language and the IDE you
would eventually use for writing larger applications.

Regarding Netbeans vs. Eclipse, both are great. I have used them both
extensively. Eclipse does have an edge when it comes to choice of "official"
plugins (Android, GAE etc). But I feel Eclipse is bloated too much.

Netbeans has one USP which Eclipse cannot beat. The UI designer. If you are
into desktop application development with Java, nothing to beat this. It
gives the power of rapid application development (nearly VB like) for Java
developers. Eclipse does have a plugin but personally I feel that it does
not match Netbeans's internal support for UI design.

But Eclipse is not just an IDE. It is a platform. It provides a framework
for RCP (Rich Client Platform) applications. You can write applications
which runs inside the Eclipse platform.

Regards,
Arun
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[Ilugc] FW: k12linux mount problem

[ramesh kumar]

k12linux in client boot error message

mount.nfs:access denied by the server while mounting 
192.168.1.254:/opt/ltsp/i386

vi /etc/exports

/opt/ltsp/i386/  192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0*(rw,no_root_squash,sync)


please help


  
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I found this book much interestng .
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Re: [Ilugc] Problem with Phpmyadmin

[RAKESH KUMAR]

I am getting this Error  #2002 Cannot log in to the MySQL server

2011/7/15 விக்னேஷ் நந்த குமார் (Vignesh Nandha Kumar) 

> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 1:45 PM, RAKESH KUMAR  >wrote:
>
> > I Have Been Using LAMP... NOw Suddenly I hav A Problem with my
> > PHPMyadmin...
> > I am unable to login..
> >
>
> Please give more information - what exactly happens when you try to login?
>
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Re: [Ilugc] Which is best IDE

[Krishna]

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 7:38 AM, srinivasan kadn
wrote:

> Dear friends,
>
> I am new to JAVA Application developer.
>
> I want to know which ide is better,
> Either NETBEANS or ECLIPSE.
> Now i am using NETBEANS.
>

When I had a requirement to work on j2me development on ubuntu, I found that
netbean + j2me combo was quick to setup and start working as  compared to
eclipse + j2me. If your intention is to get your app development started
quickly then go with one which fits the need. If you want to learn then  try
both.

Bye,
Krishna.
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Thank you all for the information.



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Re: [Ilugc] Which is best IDE

[ashwin kesavan]

On 15 July 2011 14:01, Natarajan V  wrote:
> . In fact, if you learn to code properly, even the language is not a barrier 
> :D (Do
> politicians hesitate to speak in a new language that they have never
> learnt?)

Your point that IDE is not so important as the knowing the language is
good. But the point that language is not barrier is not quite correct.
This reminds of a tamil cinema dasaavataram, in which kamal's
(officer) assistance says that my boss can speak 5 language in telugu.
That how a X language programmer would program if he is asked to
program in language Y. If he studies thoroughly of of language Y then
it ok, which is not likely b'cos it would take at-least few months to
have some mastery over language Y. i mean to utilse the benefits of
language Y. Otherwise he would programming in language X with the
syntax of language Y when asked to switch to language Y. So in the end
he would not have utilized real stuff behind language Y.

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Re: [Ilugc] Which is best IDE

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 15:23 +0530, Girish Venkatachalam wrote:
> But a combo of UNIX command line know how and Vim is what I think UNIX
> geeks
> prefer... 

actually the linux desktop is the best IDE - it is rather silly to run
another IDE within an IDE.
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Re: [Ilugc] Which is best IDE

[Girish Venkatachalam]

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Natarajan V  wrote:
> Vim is a great tool. I agree. But, don't disregard the IDEs. I don't
> use IDEs for just syntax highlighting and auto indentation. these have
> a lot more features. To start with, how do you like to know your
> compilation errors, bad coding practices (static code review), dead
> code etc.. as you type (even before you could save it).
>

I never use anything other than Vim. I have never worked on large
projects for maintenance
 or bug fixing.

But a combo of UNIX command line know how and Vim is what I think UNIX geeks
prefer...

-Girish

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Re: [Ilugc] Which is best IDE

[Raja Subramanian]

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Natarajan V  wrote:
> With almost 10 years into Java, I care the least about which IDE
...
> If you are clear in what you want to develop, the tool is just an aid.
> And, switching between Eclipse and Netbeans is not a big deal at all.
> So don't worry much about the tool. Just learn to code. In fact, if
> you learn to code properly, even the language is not a barrier :D

+1.  You can also add language, framework, OS, platform, etc is also
no barrier.

But this wisdom comes only after you complete the "Teach Yourself
Programming in 10 Years" course ;-)

http://norvig.com/21-days.html

- Raja
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Re: [Ilugc] Problem with Phpmyadmin

[Vignesh Nandha Kumar]

Hi,

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 1:45 PM, RAKESH KUMAR wrote:

> I Have Been Using LAMP... NOw Suddenly I hav A Problem with my
> PHPMyadmin...
> I am unable to login..
>

Please give more information - what exactly happens when you try to login?


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[Ilugc] OAOD (Rosegarden)

[Dhastha]

Application: Rosegarden

What it is:

Rosegarden is a well-rounded audio and MIDI sequencer, score editor,
and general-purpose music composition and editing environment.

Rosegarden is an easy-to-learn, attractive application that runs on
Linux, ideal for composers, musicians, music students, and small
studio or home recording environments.

To know more about:

http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/

To install in Ubuntu:

sudo apt-get install rosegarden

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Re: [Ilugc] How to make ILUGC list user friendly?

[Manokaran K]

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Shakthi Kannan wrote:

> The problem with some newbies is that life has been very smooth
> (everything taken care) for them with lot of spoon-feeding that they
> expect everybody to help them the same way. They haven't yet seen the
> (harsh) realities of life.
>
> So, when they begin to face the real world with different
> personalities (this list, for example), they are suddenly pushed to a
> state where they find that people don't give them their doze of
> spoon-feeding as how they are used to. So, they start to complain
> about it.
>
> The smart newbies will accept that life is different out there as
> compared to what they are used to, thank this list for educating them
> (optional), improve their competence, and prove their valour with
> their work.
>

I make a case for responding to two threads in one :-)

Like the other one who asked which is the best IDE, most newcomers, perhaps
because of our education system, expect an 'answer' (and only one correct
answer) to each of their doubts. And they are put off when each one has a
different 'answer - expressed in their own idiosyncratic ways.

I think it takes a little time outside the cocoon of our education system to
get used to the fact that there is no 'one right answer' to most problems in
real life.

A post lunch philosophical babble :-)

regds,
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Re: [Ilugc] Which is best IDE

[Natarajan V]

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 11:36 AM, ashwin kesavan  wrote:
> true linux geek feel commnad line is lot better than GUI. I think you
> are a or aspiring Linux geek which is why you are asking in this M/L.
> So one more reason to use vim.

I don't care if someone is a geek or not. But, I do care if someone is
productive enough. For being extreemly productive, it would be nice if
the person can learn to use whatever tool that comes their way. Even
if nothing fancy exists, you should still be able to do the job.

Vim is a great tool. I agree. But, don't disregard the IDEs. I don't
use IDEs for just syntax highlighting and auto indentation. these have
a lot more features. To start with, how do you like to know your
compilation errors, bad coding practices (static code review), dead
code etc.. as you type (even before you could save it).


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Re: [Ilugc] Which is best IDE

[Natarajan V]

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 11:08 AM, srinivasan kadn
 wrote:
> I am new to JAVA Application developer.

Welcome to the club :-)

> Either NETBEANS or ECLIPSE.

I would suggest that you learn the language and "proper" programming
first. An IDE is just a tool.

With almost 10 years into Java, I care the least about which IDE I/ my
people use. I go with whatever is available at that particular moment.
This includes Eclipse and variants of Eclipse, NotePad++, Kate, VI,
sed, grep, spreadsheets (!), Netbeans, and so on...

If you are clear in what you want to develop, the tool is just an aid.
And, switching between Eclipse and Netbeans is not a big deal at all.
So don't worry much about the tool. Just learn to code. In fact, if
you learn to code properly, even the language is not a barrier :D (Do
politicians hesitate to speak in a new language that they have never
learnt?)

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Re: [Ilugc] I Meant

[Manokaran K]

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Balachandran Sivakumar <
benignb...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>It depends on what you mean by "options". And user
> friendliness depends on the user. To quote an eg. people used to
> vi/vim will find it more user friendly than other editors, but people
>

Working with Vim/Vi has the additional advantage that it will be available
preinstalled on most linux distributions and will be helpful when you have
to SSH into a remote server and edit some files on it.

regds,
mano
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[Ilugc] Problem with Phpmyadmin

[RAKESH KUMAR]

I Have Been Using LAMP... NOw Suddenly I hav A Problem with my PHPMyadmin...
I am unable to login..
Would be grateful for your Help.




THANX in Advance
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Re: [Ilugc] [ILUG-C] VirtalBox importing snapshots

[Yogesh Girikumar]

2011/7/15 Yogesh Girikumar 

> I had a laptop with a VM on VirtualBox. The VM had some 5 snapshots. I had
> to format the laptop for some reason. So I just copied the VM directory. Now
> I want to import it into my newly installed VirtualBox. I am able to attach
> the harddisk to a new VM which gives me the last snapshot. Now I want to
> import my snapshots into it. I have a .vbox file which seems to have
> information about the snapshots in some XML format. Please help.
>

Hi,

Got it. Did this in the terminal:

VBoxManage registervm /path/to/filename.vbox

This imported the VM complete with snapshots. :)

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[Ilugc] [ILUG-C] VirtalBox importing snapshots

[Yogesh Girikumar]

I had a laptop with a VM on VirtualBox. The VM had some 5 snapshots. I had
to format the laptop for some reason. So I just copied the VM directory. Now
I want to import it into my newly installed VirtualBox. I am able to attach
the harddisk to a new VM which gives me the last snapshot. Now I want to
import my snapshots into it. I have a .vbox file which seems to have
information about the snapshots in some XML format. Please help.

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Re: [Ilugc] Open Source software for Textile unit billing and inventory management

[Arun Khan]

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Arun Khan  wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:32 PM, arunthe...@gmail.com
>  wrote:
>
>
>> 3. And a dumb one. Suggest a package / service. Preferably free license, as
>> he is going to test it out and convince his father before getting it
>> deployed in real world.
>
> openBRAVO has a downloadable virtual appliance that you can experiment
> with.   openTAPS also used to have one.

Would like to add another point.

Even the proprietary solutions have to be customized and homologated
to "fit" your company.This interval can be anywhere from 3-4
months, the billing could be time and material over and above the lic.
cost.

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