[Ilugc] Invitation to RMS lecture - Chennai - Feb 6

2012-01-28 Thread Shanu
Hi all,
As you all know, Richard Stallman is coming to Chennai. We would like
to have you all for the seminar. We are proud as well as excited to
invite you to this event
For details, please visit
http://fsftn.org/content/richard-stallmans-visit-chennai
Event is open to all free of cost. Please register at the website so
that we can make required arrangements. But this is optional. Those
who need certificate for the event has to register at the venue with
fee of Rs.20/-. Bulk registrations for the event are accepted. Please
get in touch with us if you would like to do a bulk registration.
Note: Registration counters for certificates will be closed by 1:00 PM
sharp. So please reach the venue at least 30 minutes before the event.
Contact: shanu@fsftn.orgalagunambiwel...@fsftn.org
Kindly forward this to all the lists you know.

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[Ilugc] ACTA

2012-01-28 Thread A. Mani
ACTA can be used to stifle open h/w projects, stifle information flow,
file-sharing and more.

Also see https://lists.ffii.org/mailman/listinfo/acta-discuss
http://www.stopacta.info/

Put this on your website:

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http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/6269/125/

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The ACTA Fight Returns: What Is at Stake and What You Can Do
Friday January 27, 2012
The reverberations from the SOPA fight continue to be felt in the U.S.
(excellent analysis from Benkler and Downes) and elsewhere (mounting
Canadian concern that Bill C-11 could be amended to adopt SOPA-like
rules), but it is the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement that has
captured increasing attention this week. Several months after the
majority of ACTA participants signed the agreement, most European
Union countries formally signed the agreement yesterday (notable
exclusions include Germany, the Netherlands, Estonia, Cyprus and
Slovakia).

This has generated a flurry of furious protest: thousands have taken
to the streets in protest in Poland, nearly 250,000 people have signed
a petition against the agreement, and a Member of the European
Parliament has resigned his position as rapporteur to scrutinize the
agreement, concluding that the entire review process is a "charade."

Some are characterizing ACTA as worse than SOPA, but the reality is
somewhat more complicated. From a substantive perspective, ACTA's
Internet provisions are plainly not as bad as those contemplated by
SOPA. Over the course of several years of public protest and pressure,
the Internet provisions were gradually watered down with the removal
of three strikes and you're out language. Other controversial
provisions on statutory damages and anti-camcording rules were made
optional rather than mandatory.

While the Internet provisions may not be as bad as SOPA, the remainder
of the agreement raises many significant concerns.

Countries such as India have expressed concern that it conflicts with
the TRIPS Agreement. Other elements of the agreement increase the
standards in the WIPO Internet Treaties and the commercial scale
definition at the WTO. The agreement adds new criminal provisions,
pressures ISPs to take greater action, and heightens border measures.
There remains ongoing debate as to whether the substance of ACTA
requires legislative change in many signatory countries (a somewhat
dated site on many ACTA issues here).

Beyond the substantive concerns, the ACTA process remains a major
issue as it sets a dangerous precedent for international IP
agreements. For years, the ACTA process was shrouded in secrecy, with
only the occasional leak bringing plans to light. Wikileaks cables
confirmed that the secrecy was viewed as a serious problem in many
participant countries. In fact, even as most countries supported
greater transparency and the release of draft texts, the U.S.
steadfastly refused, using transparency as a bargaining chip to
extract concessions from other negotiating partners. In addition to
the transparency problems during the negotiations, the express
exclusion of many countries from the process raises real fears that
they will face increased pressure to meet ACTA standards in the years
ahead.

Given the ongoing concerns, the big question now is whether much can
be done. The majority of ACTA countries have signed the agreement, but
it will only take effect once five countries have formally implemented
and ratified it. That is not expected until at least May 2013, opening
the door to stopping the agreement from taking effect. While there are
global initiatives such as the AccessNow petition, much of the
activity has shifted to specific countries or regions:

Europe is home to the most active anti-ACTA effort since there is
still a possibility that the European Parliament may reject the
treaty. There remain serious doubts about whether ACTA is consistent
with the EU Acquis.  Learn more about what can be done at La
Quadrature du Net, EDRI, the Open Rights Group, and FFII.
In Canada, the Department of Foreign Affairs is conducting an open
consultation on ACTA. Email your comments to the department or write
Consultations and Liaison Division (BSL), Anti-Counterfeiting Trade
Agreement (ACTA), Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada,
Lester B. Pearson Building, 125 Sussex Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, K1A
0G2. A March 2011 Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage report
recommended limiting Canada's ACTA commitments.
In the U.S., much of the focus is on whether ACTA must be approved
by Congress. Senator Wyden has raised questions about the issue. KEI
has extensive coverage of the U.S. perspective on ACTA.
In Australia, the Joint Standing Committee on Treaties is
accepting submissions on ACTA until January 27, 2012 (Kim Weatherall's
submission here). Australia tabled the agreement in Parliament on
November 21, 2011 and has taken the posi

Re: [Ilugc] RMS meet at Chennai - training for organizers

2012-01-28 Thread kenneth gonsalves
in Ooty we call these fellows 'vellaidorais' and we know how to handle
them.

On Fri, 2012-01-27 at 04:26 -0500, Baskar Selvaraj wrote:
> 2012/1/27 விக்னேஷ் நந்த குமார் (Vignesh Nandha Kumar) :
> > On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 11:32 AM, kenneth gonsalves
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 2012-01-26 at 18:22 +0530, satyaakam goswami wrote:
> >> > > 7. Ask him, if he need a laundry service (as he travel a lot, he may
> >> > > need that) .
> >> >
> >> > Always say GNU/Linux when not referring to just Linux kernel .
> >>
> >> and say free software and not open source.
> >>
> >
> > Not even FOSS.
> >
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> I am pasting the reply here which I received from RMS 4 days ago reg.
> the interview appeared in LFY and his views:
> 
> ---
> 
> Richard Stallman..
> Jan 24 (4 days ago)
> Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org to me
>   fromRichard Stallman r...@gnu.org
> reply-to  r...@gnu.org
> toBaskar Selvaraj 
> date  Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:50 AM
> subject   Re: Requesting your comment about the academic initiative in
> Tamilnadu, INDIA
> 
>
> http://www.linuxforu.com/2011/09/baskar-selvaraj-interview-foss-power-in-170-tamil-college-labs/
> 
> RMS:
> 
> It looks like you've achieved a lot, at the practical level.
> 
> Do these labs teach the students the ethical ideas of the free
> software movement?  That is the next thing to do.
> 
> Baskar:   Though I have used the term Linux / FOSS in few places,
> 
> RMS: Yes, it is disappointing.  You could have said "GNU/Linux" and "free
> software" yourself when answering the questions.
> 
> Or did you do that, and they changed it?
> 
> --
> Dr Richard Stallman
> President, Free Software Foundation
> 51 Franklin St
> Boston MA 02110
> USA
> www.fsf.org  www.gnu.org
> Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
>  Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/
> ---
> 
> S. Baskar
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Re: [Ilugc] Cron Job

2012-01-28 Thread Ramesh
I think he thought 'cron job' is some kinda of job offer. How clueless!

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From: ilugc-boun...@ae.iitm.ac.in [mailto:ilugc-boun...@ae.iitm.ac.in] On
Behalf Of Arun Khan
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 1:24 PM
To: ILUG-C
Subject: Re: [Ilugc] Cron Job

On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Govinda Raj  wrote:
>
> Please don't mail me. If any job opportunity inform me.otherwise don't do
tat.
>

1. What does your posting have to do with the subject under discussion?
2. This is a mailing list.  *Every* posting goes to *all* members.
You should have known this fact when you signed up.
3. Suggest you configure incoming rules at your end to filter out
messages of interest to you.  Most Mail User Agents (MUA) have this
feature.

-- Arun Khan
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