Re: [Ilugc] hi

2013-03-01 Thread Baskar Selvaraj
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Narendiran  wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 9:45 AM, karthikeyan 
> wrote:
> > i have  spreadsheetconverter to html/javascript 5.2.1please  sent me
> > serial key for this software
>
> Try,
> 1AMA-CH3P-STKE
>

The reply is much worse than the original posting.

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Re: [Ilugc] hi

2013-03-01 Thread Arun Khan
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Baskar Selvaraj  wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Narendiran  wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 9:45 AM, karthikeyan 
>> wrote:
>> > i have  spreadsheetconverter to html/javascript 5.2.1please  sent me
>> > serial key for this software
>>
>> Try,
>> 1AMA-CH3P-STKE
>>
>
> The reply is much worse than the original posting.

+1.   This mailing list is all about Open Source.   It is also
archived publicly @ GMane etc.   This is *not* the place for
publicizing warez information related to proprietary products.

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Re: [Ilugc] Ldap not working when configured in ssl.conf

2013-03-01 Thread Arun Khan
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:10 PM, hari prasadh  wrote:
> I have configured this in httpd.conf for ldap configuration as per below.
>
> It works fine in httpd.conf ,but iam doing the same in ssl.conf,but it is
> not working ..
> In Error logs there is no errors eventhough log level is debug .
> can anybody please help me out in fixing this.

Perhaps the LDAP server logs may have the info.

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Re: [Ilugc] hi

2013-03-01 Thread Narendiran
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Arun Khan  wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Baskar Selvaraj  wrote:
>>> Try,
>>> 1AMA-CH3P-STKE
>>>
>>
>> The reply is much worse than the original posting.
>
> +1.   This mailing list is all about Open Source.   It is also
> archived publicly @ GMane etc.   This is *not* the place for
> publicizing warez information related to proprietary products.
>

Hi, my reply was only 18 characters long. There is a joke in there
somewhere. I assure you its not a product key of any software.
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Re: [Ilugc] Becoming perl developer is good for future?

2013-03-01 Thread Arun Khan
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:31 AM, arun kumar  wrote:
>
> Thanks in advance
>

It is a very open ended question - there is also a reasonable demand
for Cobol programmers.

What is your objective?

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Re: [Ilugc] hi

2013-03-01 Thread Arun Khan
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Narendiran  wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Arun Khan  wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Baskar Selvaraj  wrote:
 Try,
 1AMA-CH3P-STKE

>>>
>>> The reply is much worse than the original posting.
>>
>> +1.   This mailing list is all about Open Source.   It is also
>> archived publicly @ GMane etc.   This is *not* the place for
>> publicizing warez information related to proprietary products.
>>
>
> Hi, my reply was only 18 characters long. There is a joke in there
> somewhere. I assure you its not a product key of any software.

Haha, good one!  (deciphering kernel logs for long periods can blunt
the humour cells in the brain)

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Re: [Ilugc] hi

2013-03-01 Thread Asokan Pichai
On Mar 1, 2013 1:53 PM, "Arun Khan"  wrote:
>
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Baskar Selvaraj 
wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Narendiran 
wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 9:45 AM, karthikeyan 
> >> wrote:
> >> > i have  spreadsheetconverter to html/javascript 5.2.1please
 sent me
> >> > serial key for this software
> >>
> >> Try,
> >> 1AMA-CH3P-STKE
> >>
> >
> > The reply is much worse than the original posting.
Yes -- it should be
1AMA--L33T--CH3P--SKTE

> +1.   This mailing list is all about Open Source.
Apparently that means athletically jumping to conclusions about everybody
else's integrity.

>  It is also
> archived publicly @ GMane etc.   This is *not* the place for
> publicizing warez information related to proprietary products.
It also apparently about renouncing humour.

Asokan Pirate

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Re: [Ilugc] hi

2013-03-01 Thread prakul agarwal
+1 to narendriran for the 18 character reply!


On 1 March 2013 13:57, Narendiran  wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Arun Khan  wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Baskar Selvaraj 
> wrote:
> >>> Try,
> >>> 1AMA-CH3P-STKE
> >>>
> >>
> >> The reply is much worse than the original posting.
> >
> > +1.   This mailing list is all about Open Source.   It is also
> > archived publicly @ GMane etc.   This is *not* the place for
> > publicizing warez information related to proprietary products.
> >
>
> Hi, my reply was only 18 characters long. There is a joke in there
> somewhere. I assure you its not a product key of any software.
> --
> Sincerely,
>
> A. Narendiran
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Re: [Ilugc] Becoming perl developer is good for future?

2013-03-01 Thread Suraj Kumar
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:31 AM, arun kumar  wrote:

>
> Thanks in advance
>

IMO, becoming a single-dimensional programmer is a bad idea. A good
programmer typically learns to code in multiple languages, understands
multiple programming paradigms and over a period of time assimilates the
fact that programming is not about syntax or about the features of any
given language or framework... and good programmers are always in demand
and easily identifiable by their approach to how they can design and reuse
systems.

So, sure, by all means if you are interested in learning perl please do so.
But, as the Buddha said, don't get attached to it.

Cheers,

  -Suraj

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Re: [Ilugc] Becoming perl developer is good for future?

2013-03-01 Thread Mohan L
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Suraj Kumar  wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:31 AM, arun kumar 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
>
> IMO, becoming a single-dimensional programmer is a bad idea. A good
> programmer typically learns to code in multiple languages.


+1.

It will help to choose feature reach programming language for the problem.

Thanks
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[Ilugc] simple 3d graphical network games recommendations?

2013-03-01 Thread Suraj Kumar
Hi,

I'm looking for simple games that can work without the need for GL / 3D
acceleration / etc., Should have network multiplayer capabilities and
should be fun (but not addictive or nauseating, like FPS games). Any
suggestions?

Cheers,

  -Suraj

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Re: [Ilugc] Software from Kenneth Gonsalves

2013-03-01 Thread Prem Kurian Philip
> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 16:24:19 +0530
> From: satyaakam goswami 
> Subject: Re: [Ilugc] Software from Kenneth Gonsalves
> To: ILUG-C 
> Message-ID:
>   
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
>>
>>
>> > if it's not here https://bitbucket.org/lawgon/ , i doubt  it to be
>> there.
>>
>> Satya, yes, that is a useful link.
>>
>
> also let me know what you are working on ,  we are planning for a
> Hackathon
> on data.gov.in datasets , we can suggest this as an idea to  be worked on
> .
>
> -Satya
> fossevents.in

I apologise for the late reply.

I had spoken to KG in 2010 that I would be willing to help with the costs
of server hosting and also with development if a website were to be setup
for hosting data specific to India because the documentation available in
India is in such a deplorable state that hardly anyone is sure about
whether it is accurate or not.

If you go to a government department each person present there will have a
different idea of what the current policy is with respect to all sorts of
things.

About the software - I was considering something that allows both adhoc
unstructured document style data (wiki-style data) as well as structured
(read: columnar) data. A sort of a wiki but with the ability to host
searchable columnar data.

Taking about data, I am considering all sorts of data. Some example data:

a) Data on crime categorised by nature of crime in taluk, panchayat,
district, state etc.

b) Government schemes and policies across departments.

c) Government procedures and policies - example:
- What are the licenses and permits needed for setting up a restaurant
- How does one deal with the loss of a voter's id
- What are the banned fertilisers and agrochemicals, etc.

d) Contact numbers for various people in government and local bodies
Example: the contact numbers for the Additional Engineer, Lineman etc,
local beat constables/SI, municipal councilors, MLAs, etc all categorised
by locality.

e) Other example data:

- Prices of food, grain etc across time in different parts of the country

-  Native bird, animal and fish species in different parts of the country.
With the Pallikarnai marsh being actively destroyed by the government in
just a few years a lot of these native species in these marshes could
become extinct.

- Local utilities, libraries, parks, daycare centres, schools, colleges,
theatres, malls, PDS shops

- Places of interest - museums, beaches, sports clubs

- Dates and times for the local government meetings, panchayat meetings,
and other meetings open to locals.


This is just a sample.

There should be an ability to attach PDFs and other documents to all data
- example: application forms for various government departments.

Also, the policies and procedures should have support for it to be
ratified by one or more government officials to indicate that the data is
indeed correct. If the data is not ratified, it should be marked as such.

A more informal ratification by ordinary citizens who have actually
verified that the procedures/policies actually are correct should also be
provided.

Also, all procedures and policy documentation should have a counter which
indicates how long it has been since it has been updated - to indicate
that it may not be current. Once data goes past a threshold in terms of
"currentness", it should be marked as such and be brought to the attention
of moderators for review and updates or archival.

I was also considering building in moderated forums, and also having a
local petitioning system which will direct an email to be automatically
delivered to the correct authorities.

Also, if this could be developed with a web service API such that the data
can be queried remotely and also updated remotely it may be possible to
integrate this into existing solutions.

Example use cases:

- Local weather data from 2007 November 12 compared with today's data in a
desktop or mobile app.

- Compare data on the price of wheat in 2010 January vs today's data -
again in a desktop or mobile app.

- Take a picture of a fish on your mobile phone and upload it to the
website tagged under the name of a local fish species. This could then be
checked by moderators and experts and then either accepted into the
website or moved into a different section.

It is pretty ambitious but I am seeing it as a public utility and not a
commercial venture. Most of this functionality is already available in
Mediawiki, Alfresco etc, but it would be good to tie in Openstreetmap etc
into it and also include better tools for searching and querying columnar
data and ofcourse, there will be work required in developing a secure web
service layer which allows for API key generation (similar to Google map
API keys) etc, different levels of access, moderation etc.

Apart from the software development work, considerable work needs to go
into getting content and keeping it current. All software that needs to be
developed should be developed as open source and so yes, somethi

Re: [Ilugc] Becoming perl developer is good for future?

2013-03-01 Thread Girish Venkatachalam
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:31 AM, arun kumar  wrote:
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Arun

Whose future? Your future? Your company's future? Your enemy's future?

Anyway it took me 3 years to learn perl. So that is a piece of data
you may not know.

And perl is a nice handy language because of the rich repertoire of
tools in CPAN.

You can do just about anything in perl as long as you know UNIX rather well.

I learnt UNIX in not less than 10 years.

-Girish

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Re: [Ilugc] Software from Kenneth Gonsalves

2013-03-01 Thread satyaakam goswami
>
> Apart from the software development work, considerable work needs to go
> into getting content and keeping it current. All software that needs to be
> developed should be developed as open source and so yes, something like a
> hackathon by FOSS enthusiasts would definitely help.
>

why when we have a platform like data.gov.in , also the software is
available https://github.com/opengovplatform/opengovplatform-beta, can you
repost your mail on to http://datameet.org/discussions/ , we can talk more
over there , there are people from govt also on that list.


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Re: [Ilugc] hi

2013-03-01 Thread Guruprasad
Hi,

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 2:21 PM, prakul agarwal
 wrote:
> +1 to narendriran for the 18 character reply!
> On 1 March 2013 13:57, Narendiran  wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Arun Khan  wrote:

-1 to your top post. Use interleaved, trimmed posting style. Read the
mailing list guidelines (http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines).

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[Ilugc] [Monthly reminder] Mailing list guidelines

2013-03-01 Thread Guruprasad
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[Forwarding the reminder mail 'ashwin kesavan' used to send]

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Re: [Ilugc] Software from Kenneth Gonsalves

2013-03-01 Thread Prem Kurian Philip
> Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 16:06:20 +0530
> From: satyaakam goswami 
> Subject: Re: [Ilugc] Software from Kenneth Gonsalves
> To: ILUG-C 
> Message-ID:
>   
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
>>
>> Apart from the software development work, considerable work needs to go
>> into getting content and keeping it current. All software that needs to
>> be
>> developed should be developed as open source and so yes, something like
>> a
>> hackathon by FOSS enthusiasts would definitely help.
>>
>
> why when we have a platform like data.gov.in , also the software is
> available https://github.com/opengovplatform/opengovplatform-beta, can you
> repost your mail on to http://datameet.org/discussions/ , we can talk more
> over there , there are people from govt also on that list.
>
>
> -Satya
> fossevents.in

Ah! good. Thank you for sending this link. I wasn't really aware of the
opengovplatform. I don't recall reviewing that software in 2010.

Seems pretty neat, but yes, I have some ideas as to how it could be
improved. Will continue the discussion at http://datameet.org/discussions.

Regards,
Prem Kurian Philip

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Re: [Ilugc] hi

2013-03-01 Thread Arun Khan
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Asokan Pichai  wrote:
> On Mar 1, 2013 1:53 PM, "Arun Khan"  wrote:
>>
>>  It is also
>> archived publicly @ GMane etc.   This is *not* the place for
>> publicizing warez information related to proprietary products.
> It also apparently about renouncing humour.
>

Nope.

At times one misses it :(  Please read my follow to Narendiran's
response @ 14:02 IST.

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Re: [Ilugc] hi

2013-03-01 Thread Raman.P
Please stop posting illegal contents. We respect law in this list. 
FOSS doesn't encourage piracy.

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Re: [Ilugc] hi

2013-03-01 Thread Raman.P
Please stop posting illegal contents. We respect law in this list. 
FOSS doesn't encourage piracy.

Raman.P
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Re: [Ilugc] Becoming perl developer is good for future?

2013-03-01 Thread Karthikeyan A K
On Friday 01 March 2013 10:31 AM, arun kumar wrote:
> Thanks in advance
>
> Arun
>
>
If you love to program in Perl do it. Please don't evaluate programming 
skill with money. If you practice well and love computer, mark my words, 
one day you will be a excellent and sought after hacker.

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